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iAmThat unregistered
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posted November 02, 2005 11:59 PM
Wow if you were these fans I am interested to know how you would feel? Being watched over during the game and even being escorted to the car? Why do muslims congregate during 5 times a day prayer? Can't they pray individually then? ==================== quote:
EAST RUTHERFORD, New Jersey (AP) -- Five Muslim football fans were detained and questioned during a game at Giants Stadium because they were congregating near an air duct on a night former President Bush was in the stadium, the FBI said Wednesday.Some of the Muslims said they did not know they were in a sensitive area, and they complained that they were subjected to racial profiling while they were praying, as their faith requires five times a day. "I'm as American as apple pie and I'm sitting there and now I'm made to feel like I'm an outsider, for no reason other than I have a long beard or that I prayed," said Sami Shaban, a 27-year-old Seton Hall Law School student who lives in Piscataway. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/02/football.muslim.ap/index.html
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TINK unregistered
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posted November 03, 2005 07:59 AM
very sad. who the hell looks for air ducts?They can pray individually. They can also congregate. The power of group prayer is acknowledged in all religions, as far as I know. Personally, I prefer to be alone but I understand the point of being in a group. Both ways have it's advantages. Do you think 5 is random or has a deeper significance? IP: Logged |
Johnny Newflake Posts: 0 From: Egypt Registered: Apr 2010
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posted November 03, 2005 04:26 PM
Yeah, I think that if I were one of these fans, I would understand, when I learned that I was in a "sensitive area."I'm not sure I understand how this relates to freedom of religion. No one was infringeing on their right to worship - only taking precautions. IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain unregistered
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posted November 03, 2005 04:35 PM
i think that there was overreaction on both sides.5 times prayer is crucial in islam it is one of the 5 pillars. for muslim men, praying in groups is like 1000 times the brownie points versus praying alone. for women, there is no instruction or indication that one is better than the other. personally i believe that if they were at a stadium they should have forgone the congregation, espeically since here in America not many people know about the importance of congregation in our faith. they could have gone home and prayed individually or in congregation there. however, like i said, there was overreaction on both sides. no need to suspect them of being terrorist just because they are muslim. some of the most highly educated people in america are muslims. are u gonna start a witchhunt for them all? it sure feels like it, like we are not welcome anymore even when we have high intellectual and monetary contributions to this country. and the muslim mens reactions were overblown too. if u were praying near the air ducts like that, u might be suspected. move on with it, apologize for the misunderstanding. no need to get emotional. Love SG IP: Logged |
Mystic Gemini unregistered
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posted November 03, 2005 06:21 PM
quote: espeically since here in America not many people know about the importance of congregation in our faith.
Not where I come from.
I agree with the rest though ------------------ Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity Blind my eyes I cannot see Lost my soul but found my heart Again a time, when I shall start IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 03, 2005 07:03 PM
It sounds like it was blown out of proportion.. The only red flag I saw would have been that they chose to do it near air ducts. Part of my training was to always watch any port of entry or any entry area that could disseminate gas or potential biologics.It may sound like overreaction to watch these areas, but it only takes one time to release something chemical that makes a lot of people sick... that has a forward effect.. meaning then people are afraid of attending games. I am sure (and I am giving the people the benefit of the doubt) that they thought they chose an innocuous area not realizing ducts are potential targets. IP: Logged |
iAmThat unregistered
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posted November 05, 2005 02:25 AM
Yeah now that I am thinkin its overreaction indeed. Thanks guys.IP: Logged |