posted December 12, 2005 10:37 PM              

There is a deja vu here...bringing back memories of how much I didn't want Karla Faye Tucker to die.....but the heartless devil bush, then govenor of Texas added her to his huge death list while he "governed" that state....I wrote to him begging for her life....(he even ticked off Pat Robertson}...but to no avail...this stone man is not one to change his mind as we all know.....

Here is the killer.....and here is Karla

posted December 12, 2005 10:40 PM              

.....as well as a photo of Tookie....who is no angel....but was using his time in prison to realize the error of his ways and write books helping young people who might otherwise have ended up in gangs...*sigh*

Excuse the picture of "Arnie".....but if he had no shame in posing for it........I have no shame posting it.....

posted December 13, 2005 12:01 AM            

At least I think that she is alot better looking and can also say California the way it was meant to be said!

And then you can post her all you want Rainbow with just her name across her chest, but just an itty, bitty little smaller, that's all!

posted December 13, 2005 02:54 AM              

Takes a lot of balls (if you'll excuse the pun) to pose that way....but then he did some naked scenes in THE TERMINATOR, didn't he?

....so it's not the first time we've seen a lot more of Arnie, than we have most "guvnors."

Gives a lot of dignity to the office...not to mention the power to determine someone's life or death....*sigh*

posted December 13, 2005 03:09 AM            

I guess that practice can make perfect!

posted December 13, 2005 03:50 AM              

...so....

Once again The United States of America...can be proud of holding to old and outdated means of dealing with criminals....

EXECUTION!

"...but how about the HOly Commandment, 'Thou shalt not kill?'"

"Who said that?"

"Wasn't it God?"

"Ah yeah..."

"So then is his commandment being broken?"

"Not really, cuz this guy had it coming...."

"Nevertheless...."

"Naw! God turns his head in cases like this and Karla Faye's....he makes an exception to.....THE RULE!"

"Oh..

Then we're really not to be taking the Ten Commandments, seriously?"

"Well yeah, most of the time....but you know, we gotta bend the rules sometimes....when it's convenient for us...."

"Okay....so murder is okay sometimes, huh?"

"Yeah, mostly when bush or arnie is at the helm...."

posted December 13, 2005 11:35 AM            

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Then we're really not to be taking the Ten Commandments, seriously?"

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posted December 13, 2005 03:34 PM            

Schwarzenegger's claims for his refusal of clemency for Williams is as follows:

"The possible irregularities in Williams’ trial have been thoroughly and carefully reviewed by the courts, and there is no reason to disturb the judicial decisions that uphold the jury’s decisions that he is guilty of these four murders and should pay with his life";
The basis of his request for clemency is the "personal redemption Stanley Williams has experienced and the positive impact of the message he sends" yet "it is impossible to separate Williams' claim of innocence from his claim of redemption";
"Cumulatively, the evidence demonstrating Williams is guilty of these murders is strong and compelling";..."there is no reason to second-guess the jury's decision of guilt";
A "close look at his post-arrest and post-conviction conduct tells a story different from redemption";
Williams had written books that instruct readers to avoid the gang lifestyle and to stay out of prison.... From 1995 he "tried to preach a message of gang avoidance and peacemaking.... "It is hard to assess the effect of such efforts in concrete terms, but the continued pervasiveness of gang violence leads one to question the efficacy of Williams' message";
The dedication of Williams' book Life in Prison casts significant doubt on his personal redemption...the mix of individuals on [the dedication] list is curious"..."but the inclusion of George Jackson on the list defies reason and is a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed."

Though I detest frivolous sentences of people that are put on death row, it's heart-renching for me to be succumed to hear the comparisons between that of Stanley Tookie Williams and that of Karla Faye Tucker Brown! While at the time, Tucker reformed in prison as a Born-again Christain, but also during her last interview with Barbara Walters,(if I last so remembered)she faced up to her execution in a brave matter and even claimed to be "role model" for those who commit a heinous crime like that as of the murder that she commited herself and it's end results to that matter.

Williams on the other hand, has spent the last 28 years of his life denying his guilt(even though the evidence of his case had increasingly compiled against him, more to it of his refusal to cooperate with authorities and to the dedications to his book "Life in Prison" being one of them as of George Jackson where he might as well also dedicated his book to Charles Manson and Ted Bundy)! Being that though so it may, the unfortunate circumstances that Williams had to seal with his fate, is a direct contrast to an inspired notion of the youth in today's day in age that it is "OK to kill and then get away with it", may produce an ulternative variant of ideals to potential criminals and future "gang" members that crime does not pay(even though that the victims in Williams' case vouched with they're lives over a "petty thieft" of less then total of the crimes of $500), leaves me to fear for the future assurances of this country if Williams was granted a stay of execution within the State of California,(where crime between robbery and murder continuously runs rampant on a daily basis in the City of Los Angeles)and that as Willians being a poor example if denied his martyrism of his advocacy against gang violence!

posted December 13, 2005 04:38 PM              

Just my onion....as they say...*sigh*

posted December 13, 2005 05:02 PM            

To some extent, I do believe in most cases that Capital Punishment is justified in this world. It's not for personal gain on my part, nor is it over any kind of anger towards anyone that goes to prison for murder to the 1st and 2nd degree, but I believe that to a certain degree that it keeps a great deal of many more people in this country from killing each other off, especially through acts of stupidity, which is what "Tookie" Willians did!

Most of the people in the very prison that he was held in I'm sure to believe would agree that sometimes in life that "There is a time to kill" in this world, so I feel that this wasn't as a murder as you are painting it to believe, this to me was a justified measure to something that was long awaited for and that "Tookie" Williams had all the time in the world to reconcile the facts of his circumstance, but choose to nonetheless not to prevent any further murders that go on from the very monster that he has helped create in this country and the murders that still are going on as we speak! I feel that he choosed suicide in the end for himself, rather then prolonging the ineventable!

posted December 13, 2005 05:06 PM              

no matter how you look at it

posted December 13, 2005 05:26 PM            

Part of a quote by Arnie......

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..Being that though so it may, the unfortunate circumstances that Williams had to seal with his fate, is a direct contrast to an inspired notion of the youth in today's day in age that it is "OK to kill and then get away with it".....
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And another Arnie Quote....

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It is also has been said in the Bible, "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth"....
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posted December 13, 2005 05:29 PM              

it's not right for anyone to kill
death penalty is wrong
punishment is different
then killing

posted December 13, 2005 05:36 PM              

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To some extent, I do believe in most cases that Capital Punishment is justified in this world.....

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Thanks for your opinion....

..you have a right to yours, too.....it's just different from mine, and Lotus'sand Mystic G's and Rob's and Goatgirl's

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And now I have another opinion concerning the taking of someone's life...

I believe the ONLY time there is any justification in killing someone, (if it comes to that) is when someone is threatening your life with a weapon in front of him/her....

I believe in self-defense....so if someone is out to get you, and you instead get the jump on them and kill them first, trying to save your own life...then it is in my opinion, permissible....tho not whollly ideal...for you have still murdered someone....

One could hope that it might be a karmic payoff from another life....otherwise, even tho you "took out" someone trying to save your own life, you may still be up for a karmic instance of being murdered in a future life.....that is..if your murdering the "would be" murderer of yourself, was not associated with a balanced karma for you from another life...

posted December 13, 2005 05:40 PM            

"..BEING that though so it MAY BE, the unfortuuunaAAte cirCREcumstances that Williams HAD TO SEAL WITH HIS FATE, is a dIreEEect CONTRAAAST to an INSPIRED NOTION of the YOUTH in todaAAy's daAAay in aAAge that it is "OK to KILL and THEN GET AWAAAY WIT IT".....

IT IS AS ALSO SAID IN DE BIIBLE, "EYE FOR I AND I SMASH YOooOU TOOTH!