posted March 21, 2006 10:41 AM              

"I have wisdom. I feel love. I live in the present and I try to present a dimension that brings harmony and healing," the 58-year-old rock icon said. "My concept is the opposite of George W. Bush."

Santana, speaking to Peruvian journalists ahead of a Tuesday concert, said young people's opposition to the war in Iraq is reaching the dimensions of the anti-Vietnam war sentiment in the 1970s.

"There is more value in placing a flower in a rifle barrel than making war," he said. "As Jimi Hendrix used to say, musical notes have more importance than bullets."

In 1971, Santana was prevented from performing in Peru by the military dictatorship, which deemed his music an "alienating" force. Santana returned to perform in 1995.

posted March 21, 2006 03:01 PM            

Among the Intellectualoids
Belzer's Morons
By Doug Powers
Published 3/21/2006 12:05:25 AM

On a regular basis, we hear people say how they "support the troops but are against the war." This has never made much sense to me, but then again, I'm not as smart as actors and comedians. Is there anything they don't know?

Richard Belzer helped hash this out recently. The Law & Order actor and long-time comedian let the cat out of the bag during an appearance on HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher.

The bottom line for Belzer: The troops aren't the best qualified to comment on the war because they don't have time to read 20 newspapers a day, can't know the truth because too busy trying not to die, and are "19- and 20-year-old kids who couldn't get a job." (Read the exchange or watch the video for yourself here.)

At least Belzer lets it fly unabashedly. Usually the left is a little more tactful in camouflaging the truth as it concerns their view of the troops.

The reason why they believe that the U.S. soldier is an empty-headed dupe isn't tough to figure out.

Consider Casey Sheehan, for example. He joined the military on his own accord, willingly re-enlisted during this conflict, and fought and died for something in which he believed. Casey's mother Cindy, founder of the Crawford KOA and rabid collector of frequent protester miles, has said he died "for nothing."

To use the deaths of U.S. soldiers who joined willingly as an anti-war statement is to discredit their beliefs and judgment, not to mention their intellect. These are all things that liberals do with artful virtuosity. They just don't usually come right out and say it, like Belzer.

Take Belzer and Sheehan out of the equation for a moment and look at some of the others who "care about the troops." Observe protests by the group called Code Pink. An organization so named, presumably, because of all the Pepto Bismol you have to drink to keep them from turning your stomach.

Code Pink members have hung around the Walter Reed Army Hospital, which houses many wounded soldiers, and waved signs such as "Maimed for Lies" and "Enlist here and die for Halliburton." This sounds like a bunch of people who obviously respect the soldiers, doesn't it?

You'd be hard pressed to find another group of people who are more abusive than those who seek peace for a living.

Adding fuel to the "they're so stupid" fire is the fact that these same morons in question are also overwhelmingly pro-Bush.

Much of the left views the U.S. soldier as having discovered an entirely new level of dim-wittedness -- a doofy outlook perhaps deserving of the mockery that has taken place at the Walter Reed Army Hospital, not to mention worthy of the applauded insults that rocketed from the moonscaped mug of Richard Belzer.

To be led into an unjust war by a moron is one thing, but for those same people to vote for that moron in droves makes the military reprehensibly imbecilic in leftist eyes.

For a moment, let's consider the people Belzer insults. Americans like these have helped put an end to slavery, oppression, genocide and all manner of craziness put forth by every spiral-eyed deranged dictator and tin-pot wanker on the planet.

The military can be sent to fight in some of the biggest dung-heap, dirt-bucket and generally scummy areas on the face of the earth -- places that make a septic tank look like the Presidential Suite at the Bellagio. They perform tasks -- from the incredibly dangerous to the intolerably mundane -- without complaint or plea for recognition.

The military is often called upon to take on unhinged nut cases -- the aberrant likes of whom may make you long for the stability of Courtney Love. They volunteer to dive head first into a big bowl of "Crackpot Bouillabaisse" against knee-jerk fascists, totalitarian fist wavers, and mad men engaged in a fierce game of "Virgin-Quest."

All this is offset by the lousy pay.

What must make a soldier's job even more difficult is that, on top of all this, they hear entertainers who make a fortune on fiction telling them they have no idea what they're talking about because they didn't learn about their own missions in the biased mainstream press.

Sure -- and Neil Armstrong couldn't wait to get back to Earth so he could see the cover of the New York Times and learn all about what it was like to be on the moon.

Members of the U.S. military have fought and died so people like Belzer are free to sit in comfortable security and insult them. Hey, maybe that's why Richard thinks they're stupid.

posted March 21, 2006 03:41 PM              

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Actor Charlie Sheen Questions Official 9/11 Story
Calls for truly independent investigation, joins growing ranks of prominent credible whistleblowers

by Alex Jones and Paul Watson March 20, 2006

Actor Charlie Sheen has joined a growing army of other highly credible public figures in questioning the official story of 9/11 and calling for a new independent investigation of the attack and the circumstances surrounding it.

Over the past two years, scores of highly regarded individuals have gone public to express their serious doubts about 9/11. These include former presidential advisor and CIA analyst Ray McGovern, the father of Reaganomics and former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury Paul Craig Roberts , BYU physics Professor Steven Jones, former German defense minister Andreas von Buelow , former MI5 officer David Shayler, former Blair cabinet member Michael Meacher, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds and many more.

Speaking to The Alex Jones Show on the GCN Radio Network, the star of current hit comedy show Two and a Half Men and dozens of movies including Platoon and Young Guns, Sheen elaborated on why he had problems believing the government's version of events.

Sheen agreed that the biggest conspiracy theory was put out by the government itself and prefaced his argument by quoting Theodore Roosevelt in stating, "That we are to stand by the President right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

"We're not the conspiracy theorists on this particular issue," said Sheen.

"It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75% of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions."

Sheen described the climate of acceptance for serious discussion about 9/11 as being far more fertile than it was a couple of years ago.

"It feels like from the people I talk to in and around my circles, it seems like the worm is turning."

SUSPICIOUS COLLAPSE OF BUILDINGS

Sheen described his immediate skepticism regarding the official reason for the collapse of the twin towers and building 7 on the day of 9/11.

"I was up early and we were gonna do a pre-shoot on Spin City, the show I used to do, I was watching the news and the north tower was burning. I saw the south tower hit live, that famous wide shot where it disappears behind the building and then we see the tremendous fireball."

"There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

Sheen said that most people's gut instinct, that the buildings had been deliberately imploded, was washed away by the incessant flood of the official version of events from day one.

Sheen questioned the plausibility of a fireballs traveling 1100 feet down an elevator shaft and causing damage to the lobbies of the towers as seen in video footage, especially when contrasted with eyewitness accounts of bombs and explosions in the basement levels of the buildings.

Regarding building 7, which wasn't hit by a plane, Sheen highlighted the use of the term "pull," a demolition industry term for pulling the outer walls of the building towards the center in an implosion, as was used by Larry Silverstein in a September 2002 PBS documentary when he said that the decision to "pull" building 7 was made before its collapse. This technique ensures the building collapses in its own footprint and can clearly be seen during the collapse of building 7 with the classic 'crimp' being visible.

The highly suspicious collapse of building 7 and the twin towers has previously been put under the spotlight by physics Professor Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories, the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the World Trade Center towers.

"The term 'pull' is as common to the demolition world as 'action and 'cut' are to the movie world," said Sheen.
Sheen referenced firefighters in the buildings who were eyewitnesses to demolition style implosions and bombs.

"This is not you or I watching the videos and speculating on what we saw, these are gentlemen inside the buildings at the very point of collapse."

"If there's a problem with building 7 then there's a problem with the whole thing," said Sheen.

Bush's behavior on 9/11

Sheen then questioned President Bush's actions on 9/11 and his location at the Booker Elementary School in Florida. Once Andy Card had whispered to Bush that America was under attack why didn't the secret service immediately whisk Bush away to a secret location?

By remaining at a location where it was publicly known the President would be before 9/11, he was not only putting his own life in danger, but the lives of hundreds of schoolchildren. That is unless the government knew for sure what the targets were beforehand and that President Bush wasn't one of them.

"It seems to me that upon the revelation of that news that the secret service would grab the President as if he was on fire and remove him from that room," said Sheen.

The question of how Bush saw the first plane hit the north tower, when no live footage of that incident was carried, an assertion that Bush repeated twice, was also put under the spotlight.
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"I guess one of the perks of being President is that you get access to TV channels that don't exist in the known universe," said Sheen.

"It might lead you to believe that he'd seen similar images in some type of rehearsal as it were, I don't know

The Pentagon incident

Sheen outlined his disbelief that the official story of what happened at the Pentagon matched the physical evidence.

"Show us this incredible maneuvering, just show it to us. Just show us how this particular plane pulled off these maneuvers. 270 degree turn at 500 miles and hour descending 7,000 feet in two and a half minutes, skimming across treetops the last 500 meters."

We have not been able to confirm that a large commercial airliner hit the Pentagon because the government has seized and refused to release any footage that would show the impact.

"I understand in the interest of national security that maybe not release the Pentagon cameras but what about the Sheraton, what about the gas station, what about the Department of Transportation freeway cam? What about all these shots that had this thing perfectly documented? Instead they put out five frames that they claim not to have authorized, it's really suspicious," said Sheen

Sheen also questioned how the plane basically disappeared into the Pentagon with next to no wreckage and no indication of what happened to the wing sections.

Concerning how the Bush administration had finalized Afghanistan war plans two days before 9/11 with the massing of 44,000 US troops and 18,000 British troops in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, and in addition the call for "some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor," Sheen stated, "you don't really put those strategies together overnight do you for a major invasion? Those are really well calculated and really well planned."

"Coincidence? We think not," said Sheen and he called the PNAC quotes "emblematic of the arrogance of this administration."

A real investigation

Sheen joined others in calling for a revised and truly independent investigation of 9/11.

Sheen said that "September 11 wasn't the Zapruder film, it was the Zapruder film festival," and that the inquiry had to be, "headed, if this is possible, by some neutral investigative committee. What if we used retired political foreign nationals? What if we used experts that don't have any ties whatsoever to this administration?"

"It is up to us to reveal the truth. It is up to us because we owe it to the families, we owe it to the victims. We owe it to everybody's life who was drastically altered, horrifically that day and forever. We owe it to them to uncover what happened."

Charlie Sheen joins the rest of his great family and notably his father Martin Sheen, who has lambasted for opposing the Iraq war before it had begun yet has now been proven right in triplicate, in using his prominent public platform to stand for truth and justice and we applaud and salute his brave efforts, remembering Mark Twain's quote.

"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."

posted March 21, 2006 04:03 PM              

this is ridiculous..and just shows why the President has had no choice..but to go to war..on terrorist and spies..even in our own government..

posted March 21, 2006 04:07 PM            

Now, it's time they attempt to get their sorry @sses elected to office. Show us their brilliance in foreign and domestic policy. Bounce their kooky ideas off an electorate.

I'm willing to promise I won't attempt to upstage them in their line of work....if they can promise to keep their moronic mouths shut and stick to what they are paid to do...and mostly do poorly.

If they don't, they can continue to watch revenues of their movies and recordings fall...as they have been falling for at least the last 3 years. The public is fed up with morons giving idiotic advice to the people they elected and especially when that advice and criticism comes from the least intellectually capable among us. The lights seem to be on but there ain't nobody home.

posted March 21, 2006 05:31 PM            

Why does what Carlos Santana think about the war mean anymore than what Jwhop or Rainbow think about the war?

And I would be saying the same thing if Carlos Santana came out in support of Bush and the war.

I just don't get the Cult of Celebrity Worship in our country.

Not to mention...like reporting that a musician is against the war is news to anyone.

Now if they told me Ben Stein was against the war and opening for Godsmack at a benefit concert, now THAT would be headline news. LOL

posted March 21, 2006 06:11 PM              

But this celebrity worship crap has got to stop. Why worry about politics? Why get involved? Why educate yourself? Not to worry, the celebrities will do it for you. Ah! The apathy. *bangs head against desk*

posted March 21, 2006 06:48 PM            

"Actor Charlie Sheen has joined a growing army of other highly credible public figures"

Is this a joke? THE Charlie freaking SHEEN... the one that:

Has a history of drug abuse and fun with hookers:

"In addition, his infamous off-screen life distracted from his work, as tales of drug, alcohol and prostitute use came to light. Sheen was hospitalised in 1998 for rehab."
http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_story/510:161/1/Charlie_Sheen.htm

Gambling problems:

Denise says he’s been blasting through $150,000 to $200,000 per week!” a “friend” of Richards tells the tab.

“Denise told me that he’s in denial about his problem with gambling. And she’s told him that if he wants to have any relationship with the girls other than sporadic visits, he needs to get help.”
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27264116.shtml

Yeah.. this is one hell of a credible public figure LOL

posted March 21, 2006 09:15 PM              

How about the following people, mentioned in the same article???

(of course, I realize there will be those of you who will deny them credibility as well..)

Also from the article.....

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Over the past two years, scores of highly regarded individuals have gone public to express their serious doubts about 9/11.
These include..

..former presidential advisor and CIA analyst Ray McGovern,

....the father of Reaganomics and former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury Paul Craig Roberts,

BYU physics Professor Steven Jones,

...former German defense minister Andreas von Buelow,

....former MI5 officer David Shayler,

former Blair cabinet member Michael Meacher,

former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds

and many more

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posted March 21, 2006 09:21 PM              

"They're all brain dead morons."

posted March 21, 2006 09:40 PM              

What makes you think they "hooked up with Charlie Sheen?"

They were speaking out about it, long before Charlie did...

Maybe some of them don't even know who Charlie Sheen is..I dunno

posted March 21, 2006 09:55 PM              

I just barely know of him...

posted March 21, 2006 09:58 PM              

Here's something about one of "those guys" that you think hooked up with Charlie Sheen

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Physics Professor Says Science Points To Conclusive Evidence of WTC Controlled Demolition

by Paul Watson and Alex Jones - November 12, 2005

Brigham Young University physics professor Steven E. Jones is the latest credible individual to come forward and assert that the official story of 9/11 differs wildly from the observable facts.

Jones appeared on The Alex Jones Show on friday to discuss a story that refuses to die and one that has again been pushed to the forefront of alternative research.

Jones made numerous compelling points on the collapse of both the twin towers and Building 7. According to Jones, his scientific peers have been very sympathetic to his research and have agreed with his conclusions.

- The three buildings collapsed in their own footprints and did not topple over. This bears the characteristics of controlled demolition. The central columns were pulverized and the buildings fell in on themselves. Why would Muslim fanatics go to the lengths of wiring the largest complex of buildings in the world with explosives when a topple collapse would have caused more damage to lower Manhattan and killed more people?

- Horizontal puffs of smoke or 'squibs' can be seen popping out floors as the collapse engulfs floor by floor of the buildings. Again, this is a phenomenon atypical of controlled demolition.

- Molten metal found in the basement of the WTC suggests that the commonly used explosive thermite may be responsible for the collapse. Jones said that buildings not destroyed by explosives would have insufficient directed energy to produce the large quantities of melted melted that was discovered. The molten steel was found five days after the collapse, on Sept. 16, when the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) used an Airborne Visible/Infrared Imaging Spectrometer (AVIRIS) to locate and measure the site’s hot spots

- It requires temperatures of at least 5,000 fahrenheit to melt steel. Diesel jet fuel does not reach these temperatures and the fires in the buildings were short lived. Firefighter tape recordings prove that only small pockets of fire were still burning in the buildings seconds before their collapse.

- Building 7 was not hit by a plane and yet it collapsed in 6.6 seconds, which is .6 seconds quicker than it would take an object dropped from the roof of the building to hit the floor. This violates fundamental laws of physics, unless the building was brought down by explosives.

- Buildings that collapse without the aid of explosives produce large piles of in-tact concrete and do not turn to dust as they are falling, as was witnessed on 9/11.

Following a scientific presentation back in September, Jones is now seeking a piece of molten steel from one of the buildings for analysis.

We will continue to track the progress of Jones' investigation and further expand on this story as and when it develops.

posted March 21, 2006 10:22 PM              

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Former Bush Admin Member Says Government Complicit In 9/11

June 16, 2005

Former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds has made waves in the past few days after writing a detailed article stating tha the official explanation for the collapse of the twin towers and Building 7 was bogus.

UPI picked up on the story today and this forced a response from the Texas A&M University, at which Reynolds holds the title of Professor Emeritus-an honorary title bestowed upon select tenured faculty, who have retired with ten or more years of service.

Dr. Robert M. Gates, President of Texas A&M University stated, "The American people know what they saw with their own eyes on September 11, 2001. To suggest any kind of government conspiracy in the events of that day goes beyond the pale.”

All the American people saw on 9/11 was planes fly into buildings. As we have relentlessly documented, the government explanation as to how and why this happened is provably ridiculous.

Furthermore, Americans saw the unprecedented event of multiple steel buildings supposedly collapsing from fire damage, the first time this happened in history.

Reynolds appeared on the Alex Jones Show to discuss his article and the reaction he received after the mainstream media picked it up.

The four potential explanations behind 9/11 were listed.

1) It was entirely the work of Al-Qaeda and Arab hijackers.

2) The government had prior knowledge of the attack but their incompetence allowed the attack to happen.

3) The government knew the attack was coming and consciously allowed it to happen.

4) The government ran the entire operation.

Reynolds stated, "I'd have to say that the evidence points to the last."

He later stated that the official explanation of the attack was "full of holes, everywhere you look it just doesn't hang together."

posted March 22, 2006 02:05 AM            

"Perhaps not surprisingly, the biggest decline in Bush's approval rating since August 2001 has come among scientists and engineers – the most heavily Democratic group." -from a Pew Research Group poll cited in one of your articles: http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=1016

It's crazy for Democrats to follow the scientists and engineers.

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Now, it's time they attempt to get their sorry @sses elected to office. Show us their brilliance in foreign and domestic policy. Bounce their kooky ideas off an electorate.

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Reminds me of Arnold's spectacular failure at his special election in my state.

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keep their moronic mouths shut and stick to what they are paid to do...and mostly do poorly.

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Poorly like the fresh Oscar winner George Clooney? Yeah, they're crap at what they do.

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If they don't, they can continue to watch revenues of their movies and recordings fall...as they have been falling for at least the last 3 years.

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posted March 22, 2006 11:47 AM            

Since this thread is dedicated to artists who speak against the war, here's a little something from Pearl Jam:

WORLDWIDE SUICIDE
(lyrics: Vedder, music: Gossard)

I felt the earth on Monday. It moved beneath my feet.
In the form of a morning paper. Laid out for me to see.

Saw his face in a corner picture. I recognized the name.
Could not stop staring at the. Face I'd never see again.

It's a shame to awake in a world of pain
What does it mean when a war has taken over

It's the same everyday in a hell manmade
What can be saved, and who will be left to hold her?

The whole world...World over.
It's a worldwide suicide.

Medals on a wooden mantle. Next to a handsome face.
That the president took for granted.
Writing checks that others pay.

And in all the madness. Thought becomes numb and naive.
So much to talk about. Nothing for to say.

It's the same everyday and the wave won't break
Tell you to pray, while the devils on their shoulder

Laying claim to the take that our soldiers save
Does not equate, and the truth's already out there

The whole world,... World over.
It's a worldwide suicide.

The whole world,... World over.
It's a worldwide suicide.

Looking in the eyes of the fallen
You got to know there's another, another, another, another
Another way

It's a shame to awake in a world of pain
What does it mean when a war has taken over

It's the same everyday and the wave won't break
Tell you to pray, while the devils on their shoulder

The whole world,... World over.
It's a worldwide suicide.