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AcousticGod
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posted May 02, 2006 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.salon.com/ent/video_dog/politics/2006/04/30/colbert_press/

Oh the balls! If Stephen should happen to disappear, we'll know why.

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posted May 02, 2006 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Skewering comedy skit angers Bush and aides
By Paul Bedard

Posted 5/1/06

Comedy Central star Stephen Colbert's biting routine at the White House Correspondents Association dinner won a rare silent protest from Bush aides and supporters Saturday when several independently left before he finished.

"Colbert crossed the line," said one top Bush aide, who rushed out of the hotel as soon as Colbert finished. Another said that the president was visibly angered by the sharp lines that kept coming.

"I've been there before, and I can see that he is [angry]," said a former top aide. "He's got that look that he's ready to blow."

Colbert's routine was similar to what he does on his show, the Colbert Report, but much longer on the topic of Bush, suggesting that the president is out of touch with reality. Aides and reporters, however, said that it did not overshadow Bush's own funny routine, which featured an impersonator who told the audience what Bush was thinking when he spoke dull speech lines.

In fact, some aides crowed over reports that the president easily bested Colbert in the reviews of both comedy acts. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060501/1whwatch.htm

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posted May 02, 2006 07:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you see the Bush/Bush speech, though?

That was funny.

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AcousticGod
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posted May 02, 2006 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I haven't. I saw just a tiny little clip of him and his double. I've seen his double on Jay Leno before. He's pretty good.

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posted May 02, 2006 08:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stephen Colbert is great. Thanks for posting this, AG I had not seen it before. Was too funny. He didn't pull any punches did he?

I love his shows where he interviews state Reps. The other night it showed him interviewing the Rep. from Ohio and he said " 22 astronauts have come from Ohio. Tell me, what is it about your state that makes people want to flee the planet?" LMAO The look on her face was priceless.

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posted May 02, 2006 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought he was absolutely brutal. I was sitting watching it in disbelief really, wondering how he handled his nerves. I got through most of it, but didn't finish it yet.

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posted May 02, 2006 09:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I watched it with my son and daughter, AG and my son just roared with laughter. He watches Colbert's show every week and records it too.

I know the feeling you had, AG There were times during that video that I was like, OMG he actually said that!

Cracked me up what he said to Tony Snow something like, " You have big shoes to fill, Tony nobody could say nothing like McClellen did."

Didn't Bush know what Stephen Colbert was like when he was invited there? I guess he felt that Colbert would water down his act because everyone around him are so afraid of offending him.

I don't know how Colbert held his nerve either especially near the end when he turned and looked directly at Bush and addressed him personally and Bush was just steaming angry at that time. Yet Colbert plowed on. I give him a lot of credit. lol

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posted May 02, 2006 09:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

That was a slice of heaven, AG.

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posted May 02, 2006 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like Steven Colbert's show, it's funny even if his political views often don't coincide with mine.

But...IMO him pushing the envelope there was in horribly bad taste.

It's like going to a family wedding and deciding THAT is the time to tell all your relatives how they suck. It's not about you, it's about your relative's wedding...get over yourself.

I know those that agree with Colbert's views think it's great, I mean, hey! He told Bush, didn't he! HA!

But I think if you invited me to your retirement party and I used my time at the mic to recount only the examples of how you made mistakes or were incompetent during your tenure, there would be no question as to whether my actions were in bad taste or not...

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posted May 02, 2006 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner supposed to be a time to honor the president or something?

It didn't look like it was about Colbert. It looked like a roast, and Bush even roasted himself, so I don't think it was a time for reverence.

The very fact that any person would be ballsy enough to put on that act in front of the president should indicate something of the president's standing with the people. I'm sure a more popular president would not be slammed THAT hard at a dinner like this.

But still... I think it's remarkable that Stephen got out alive.

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posted May 02, 2006 11:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, I haven't. I saw just a tiny little clip of him and his double. I've seen his double on Jay Leno before. He's pretty good.

Check CSPAN - they were running re-runs of the whole shebang all Sunday.

ORRR, you may be able to access the whole program here: http://www.c-span.org/VideoArchives.asp?z1=&PopupMenu_Name=Media/Press&CatCodePairs=Issue,MP;
It's theoretically supposed to play...no luck for me.

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proxieme
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posted May 02, 2006 11:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re: the actual subject of this thread ( ):

Of course Colbert's monologue was in bad taste.
It was in horribly bad taste - you could hear it in the stunned silence of the audience, see it on those faces aghast at what was coming out of his mouth, and (not least) in Bush's outrage.

That's the point.

Colbert's not a moron.
He knew exactly what he was doing, and he did it while staring down the President.

I thought it was brilliant.

But definitely in bad taste.

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posted May 02, 2006 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, Stephen Colbert is an abject coward. That's what you must assign to anyone who takes advantage of a situation like that where he knows the other party can't fight back.

I know it titillates all the leftists to think Colbert got the better of Bush and insulted him to his face. But think about it, Colbert is a coward.

One day, Colbert or some other coward is going to insult the wrong person and get some lumps for his trouble. When that happens most Americans will cheer.

I notice this thin skinned craven coward doesn't have a comments icon his his site and that's the best indication he can't take what he dishes out.

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posted May 03, 2006 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems like that's the most anybody can do about the president

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posted May 03, 2006 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An abject coward?

Knowing that there are people like YOU [Jwhop] out there in the world, would make me think twice about saying half that stuff. I'd fear one of you war-mongering, gun-toting conservatives sniping me. I'd have to hire my own Secret Service before attempting to pull something like that off.

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One day, Colbert or some other coward is going to insult the wrong person and get some lumps for his trouble. When that happens most Americans will cheer.

Yeah, most Americans will cheer an American getting beaten up for exercising his/her right to free speech. What country do you live in?

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I notice this thin skinned craven coward doesn't have a comments icon his his site and that's the best indication he can't take what he dishes out.

That really is a shame, isn't it? Would enjoy congratulating an American putting his beliefs on the line, and standing up for what we all believe in.

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posted May 03, 2006 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's what I said acoustic. Stephen Colbert is a coward. Anyone who picks on someone who they know can't fight back IS a coward.

Let's be clear acoustic. Cowards like Colbert don't have a comments section on their site for a very good reason. They are so thin skinned themselves they can't take the heat for their comments.

I don't recall saying someone would plug the little coward acoustic. I said one day he'll pull his bullsh!t on the wrong person and get grabbed off the stage for some rock and roll....which is what he justly deserves. When your speech turns out fighting words acoustic, you should expect and accept what you get.

Your ignorance is on constant display. You have no concept of what the 1st Amendment means and that's clear.

I don't know anyone who would waste a bullet on you acoustic.

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posted May 03, 2006 12:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Proxie.....

I saw Bush with his double....

It was excellent....the guy is good....

....and bush was even a pretty good sport to allow some of the not so funny stuff about him to be presented...

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posted May 03, 2006 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bush is not and was not incapable for standing up for himself. He could have done it at any point during the evening. It would have been foolish, ... but he could certainly have said something if he wanted to. Heck, with his staff he could have had Colbert removed from the building. It'd be just like old times on the campaign trail.

Stephen Colbert doesn't have a comments section on his site just as NO show on Comedy Central has a place for comments on their site. What would you hope to prove anyway? Do you think O'Reilly's ever responded to any of MY emails? Having a place for comments, and actually paying attention to the comments are two different things.

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I don't recall saying someone would plug the little coward acoustic.

No, you didn't say anyone would plug him. I said that were it me I'd be afraid of you and your gun-toting friends picking me off, because frankly conservative men seem to be a bit violent if you know what I mean (think Cheney and his buddy).

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When your speech turns out fighting words acoustic, you should expect and accept what you get.

Maybe in your world. In the civilized world people respect one another's opinion enough not to resort to violence when it is offensive.

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You have no concept of what the 1st Amendment means and that's clear.

Whatever do you mean, Jwhop? Are you trying to say that Colbert's speech was not legal?

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I don't know anyone who would waste a bullet on you acoustic.

Oh, look at that. You're sticking up for a Democrat. That's sweet.

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posted May 03, 2006 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see if I can get through your fog acoustic.

Colbert would not dare to say the same words to Bush if Bush were not restrained by the situation. Colbert is a coward hiding behind the event, knowing Bush could not respond in that venue. Did that get through your fog acoustic?

Colbert has no site where he can be contacted directly, has no published email address and that's the reason I said he is thin skinned and can't take the heat for what he says. I would love to see him accept an interview with any conservative talk show host. He'd get skinned alive and stalk off in a huff the same way the other idiot Alec Baldwin did.

I think you're projecting acoustic. No one I know would "pick you off". I already told you no one I know would waste a bullet on you.

In the civilized world acoustic, people don't run off at the mouth like Colbert did at a White House/Press dinner. You're thinking of the world of Rosie O’Donnell, Whoppi Goldberg, Michael Moore, Alec Baldwin and the other oh so civilized idiots you admire.

Colbert's speech was legal because of the First Amendment and the fact Bush is a public figure. However acoustic, the First Amendment prohibits government from interfering with speech rights, not private citizens. So while you may converse in fighting words with a public government figure, if you try that with a private individual you may lose some teeth in the process. So, my bet is that Colbert picks his spots and individuals to whom he mouths off. Leftists tend to do that, call it not having the strength of their so called convictions....or simple cowardice.

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I think that Colbert was only saying what 68% of the American public are saying everyday. It's about time Bush heard it first hand.

Face it Bush's people knew the comedy of Stephen Colbert and they invited Colbert to be a speaker at the dinner as a PR tactic to improve Bush's image. Their little PR scam back fired on them when Colbert just did his normal thing instead of watering it down just because Bush's ego can't handle any criticism, or differing opinion not even within his own administration. If Bush is so damn humorless and delicate they should have invited Dennis Miller instead of Colbert. Miller would have been more than delighted to kiss Bush's ass on national T.V.

If you saw Stephen Colbert on 60 Minutes this past Sunday you would know that Colbert said he doesn't believe half of the things he says. It's just comedy and he does it well.

Stop trying to paint Bush as a helpless victim, Jwhop. He was using Colbert for his own political agenda in a sad attempt to build up his image.

What is real scary is how nervous and frightened everyone around Bush is of him. So afraid of offending him in the slightest little bit. That should be a red flag about the man's character to all of America. Anytime an American president in a democracy has people that nervous and scared of him something is drastically wrong. People were scared of Hitler and Hussein too. Scared of what they might do in retaliation. That tells us that like all the other dictators in history and in the world today, the man rules by fear and intimidation. He couldn't do it without all his co-dependants and enablers like you, Jwhop.

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posted May 03, 2006 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hate to burst your bubble there Jwhop, but between a person speaking their views, and a person assaulting another, the law is always going to side with the speaker.

Like I said, Bush was free to do what he wanted. He's the president of the United States. It wouldn't have looked very good of him, but you know there's only 30% to go to reach rock bottom in the polls. Why not go for it?

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In the civilized world acoustic

Civilize: "To raise from barbarism to an enlightened stage of development; bring out of a primitive or savage state"

You were saying? You think you know civilized and in your version it includes barbarism?

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posted May 03, 2006 09:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, jwhop...

It's telling that you'll obliquely threaten physical violence against someone for dishonoring the president in public.

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posted May 03, 2006 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What absolute crap.

People afraid of Bush? Well let's see, I don't remember any "Friends of Bush" taking the long sleep. I don't remember any enemies of Bush having the FBI, IRS or Justice Dept employees or officials attempting to intimidate them or harassing them.

You must be thinking of Commander Corruption whose "Friends" died like flies under very mysterious circumstances. Being a "Friend of Bill" was more dangerous than being a sky diver with a half chute. Enemies of Bill were harassed and intimidated by private investigators, the FBI, Justice Dept and the IRS.

I'll bet you're just as cautious of what you say to an individual's face as Colbert is acoustic. It's one thing to do so from the safety of anonymity or in a structured setting like the White House/Press Dinner but quite another face to face. As for the law, well that might be some consolation while one is healing up.

So you think Bush was free to get up, yank Colbert's sorry ass off the stage and give him his deserved lumps acoustic? And since he didn't acoustic, that means Colbert was speaking the truth? Colbert was justified in introducing leftist twit rhetoric into what was supposed to be a dinner not a Presidential Roast? You have some very juvenile ideas acoustic.

Proxieme, reading what you want to read into what is said is rather a waste of time. I didn't threaten obliquely or otherwise anyone who badmouthed Bush. My take on what was said by Colbert is that Colbert is a coward who would not dare say that to Bush in a one on one face to face. I doubt Bush needs the IRS or other Feds to fight his battles for him. That's Commander Corruption's forte.

You did get one thing right, dishonoring Bush in a public forum where he can't rebut what's being said or confront the coward hiding behind the event to spew his twit leftist hate rhetoric, is itself dishonorable.

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posted May 03, 2006 10:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop - Saying that someone will beat up Colbert for his remarks sounds an awful lot like an oblique threat to me.

Perhaps we'll just have to chalk this one up to a difference of opinion.

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posted May 03, 2006 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You have some very juvenile ideas acoustic.

Juvenile like barbarism?

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