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Topic: Hillary for President...Firm Support, 19%
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 30, 2006 02:28 PM
Monday, May 29, 2006 1:39 p.m. EDT Poll: Hillary Has 19 Percent Firm Support A bare 19 percent of those polled by ABC said they would definitely vote for Sen. Hillary Clinton,D-N.Y., while almost half - 42 percent - said there was no way they'd vote for her in a contest for the presidency in 2008.According to the New York Post, Hillary is a polarizing figure who falls short of attracting the cross-over vote needed to win the White House. While 38 percent say they would consider backing her, 42 percent say they definitely won't back her if she runs, the ABC News poll found. The Post remarked that the poll results mean Clinton could win a majority only by winning over 80 percent of those who are now undecided on her candidacy. The poll also underscored the fact that Clinton has little crossover appeal, wrote the Post's top political reporter Deborah Orin. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/5/29/134500.shtml?s=ic IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 30, 2006 02:44 PM
More Truth About Hillary John LeBoutillier Tuesday, May 30, 2006 Ed Klein's best-seller, "The Truth About Hillary" was the most talked-about political book of 2005. And today the paperback version is published by Sentinel with a new foreward by Mr. Klein in which he recounts the unprecedented media boycott of his book. Looking back to last year, it was a remarkable series of revelations that made "The Truth About Hillary" a fascinating story: The pre-publication hype kicked off with carefully leaked material to Drudge.
A tantalizing excerpt appeared in Vanity Fair - a bastion of the mainstream media (MSM). Word got around that Ed Klein himself was from the MSM - and thus was playing "against type" to dare to criticize Hillary. Ed Klein was booked on all the big TV shows on the three broadcast networks and cable shows, too. Then the Clinton spin machine went to work to attack Ed Klein and denigrate his character and career. Pressure was applied on TV producers to keep Klein off their shows. There was a veiled threat: If you want Senator Clinton on your show in the future, you better not have Ed Klein on now. Thus the sudden tectonic shift in the story of the Hillary book: Virtually every TV show cancelled Ed Klein's already-booked appearance! Like a well-orchestrated stage show, as if on cue, Sentinel received call after call un-inviting Ed to be on their TV shows! As Rush Limbaugh said then on his show, "The press is not curious about what Klein is saying. They are circling the wagons, trying to defend Hillary." Following the old rule of physics - for every action there is an equal and opposite re-action - the "alternate" media jumped into the vacuum. Taking the lead was NewsMax, which did yeoman's work to publicize the book. Newsmax repeatedly covered all of the twists and turns as the MSM showed its true colors as an adjunct of team Clinton. The hugely powerful and influential talk-radio world followed NewsMax's lead and booked Ed Klein on scores of shows. The result? "The Truth About Hillary" soared to No. 2 on The New York Times best-seller list and remained near the top for five weeks! And all despite - or because of - the MSM duplicitous boycott! Thus it is now clear: Despite the beast laid plans of the left, they could not prevent "The Truth About Hillary" from making a huge mark in the political world. Just one week ago The New York Times published on the front page a long - and planted - story about the "state of the Clinton marriage." This was clearly an attempt to pre-empt future speculation about many of the facts exposed in Ed Klein's book. Behind this story is another truth: Democratic insiders all know that Hillary is damaged goods - much of the damage done by Klein's book - and she probably cannot win a general election. And it is the very issues and facts raised by Ed Klein that will be the undoing of Hillary: Her roots in the radical feminist ideology; her total lack on conviction about anything; her total, compulsive - and "congenital" - dishonesty. Indeed, "The Truth About Hillary" was a publishing hit. Five weeks on the Times' list is very, very good. This book was even more. It was a political megahit that showed us much about the immediate future: The MSM is losing influence - and fast; the Internet and talk radio actually have more influence than the MSM; team Hillary has a thin skin and is very worried about her character issues. If you don't have a copy of "The Truth About Hillary," you need to get one and read it ASAP. It will - in the end - have done more to keep her out of the Oval Office than any other book. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/5/30/84934.shtml IP: Logged |
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posted May 30, 2006 03:49 PM
jwhop...Hillary is a very intelligent lady! She may never win, but she sure has worked her way up! You have to give her credit... Now Books and people try to break her down and assume they know her... but I will mantion this much: THEY WILL NEVER KNOW HER... THEY WILL NOT EVEN COME CLOSE... THEY WILL NEVER BREAK HER...SHE IS ALSO AT HER BEST UNDER ATTACK! IF SHE REALLY WANTS TO, SHE WILL PROBABLY BECOME PRESIDENT (the only thing is that presidents have always been males and politically they will never let a female win... maybe run for it...)
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 30, 2006 04:19 PM
silverstone, you suggest an "old boy's club" will or would prevent Hillary from becoming President.I doubt that's true. In fact, the political left would get behind Daffy Duck if they thought they could recapture the White House. Only Hillary will prevent Hillary from becoming President and Hillary sure wants the job...so does Commander Corruption want the job of First Gentleman. Unfortunately, Commander Corruption doesn't qualify for that title. Hillary will be prevented by Hillary's utter disregard for the law, her scheming and conniving and her perpetual rage, none of which is a pretty picture. The more people know about Hillary, the less they like her...as a person or as a candidate. Hillary is a leftist icon but the left is incapable of electing a President and Hillary will not get much traction among moderate Independents, moderate democrats or moderate Republicans...and that's were the votes would have to come from to elect her.
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posted May 30, 2006 04:50 PM
Hillary IS a SCORPIO!!!NEVER underestimate THAT power!
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posted May 30, 2006 04:56 PM
Greetings jwhop,>>>>>silverstone, you suggest an "old boy's club" will or would prevent Hillary from becoming President. This is just my belief system…. It is all organized… They know who the next president will be… >>>I doubt that's true. In fact, the political left would get behind Daffy Duck if they thought they could recapture the White House. Only Hillary will prevent Hillary from becoming President and Hillary sure wants the job...so does Commander Corruption want the job of First Gentleman. Unfortunately, Commander Corruption doesn't qualify for that title. Actually, Hillary herself, has put herself at the top… and will continue; she is an intelligent lady! She knows how to do the job… nobody will ever get the best out of her! >>>Hillary will be prevented by Hillary's utter disregard for the law, her scheming and conniving and her perpetual rage, none of which is a pretty picture. Why do you dislike her so much? She has made mistakes…. Don’t we all. She is stronger than you think and wise. ------------------ ~*Silverstone~* IP: Logged |
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posted May 30, 2006 04:57 PM
The more people know about Hillary, the less they like her...as a person or as a candidate. Hahaha… that’s funny. Her being a Scorpio will never let people get to know her personal life or herself… As she is smart enough to know, that Business and personal issues should be separated! Again people will say they know her, write books, and so on, and yet truthfully know nothing about her… She is at her best under attack! IP: Logged |
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posted May 30, 2006 05:02 PM
>>>Hillary is a leftist icon but the left is incapable of electing a President and Hillary will not get much traction among moderate Independents, moderate democrats or moderate Republicans...and that's were the votes would have to come from to elect her. Again, she may not win… Actually I do no think she will…. But, again, upper heads will never let it happen! Do you really think “we” have a saying on electing the president? Think about that!
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posted May 30, 2006 05:09 PM
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF A WOMAN! ESPECIALLY A SCORPIO WOMAN!!! IP: Logged |
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posted May 30, 2006 05:11 PM
I've heard...she WILL be our next president.It's in the cards! IP: Logged |
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posted May 30, 2006 05:39 PM
Greetings Rainbow!I do not understimate the power of Woman! Actually, I believe that they are highly intelligent and many times can reason better than Man! I like Hillary! And I am at all with her... Actually, I want her to win! But I think that upper heads will probably will not let it happen.... but we may get surprised! Are you a Scorpio, Rainbow? I am... If you are, you understand my resonses to JWHOP... Ps- Rainbow you use cool similies and pictures! ------------------ ~*Silverstone~* IP: Logged |
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posted May 30, 2006 05:49 PM
HILLARY CLINTON ROCKS! The only true failure is failure to try, all others are an opportunity to learn!
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posted May 30, 2006 05:57 PM
Scorpio-sun Pisces-Ascendant Pisces-Moon My Mars is in Leo My Jupiter is in Virgo my Saturn in Virgo my Mercury is Scorpio my Uranus in Scorpio my Venus in Scorpio my Neptune in Sagittarius my Pluto is in Libra.
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posted May 30, 2006 06:16 PM
Silverstone.....I have Scorpio Rising (with Mars there)....and a Pisces Moon..... I used to like Hillary....but not that much anymore.... I still think she's going to win, tho.... *sigh* IP: Logged |
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posted May 30, 2006 10:42 PM
I'm a scorpio and the woman makes me physically, violently ill.IP: Logged |
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posted May 30, 2006 11:24 PM
OMG Tink....You read TRANCE Formation of America? IP: Logged |
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posted May 31, 2006 10:16 AM
No, I haven't. Skimmed a bit on the internet, but haven't read the book. Don't need to to know Hilary is ... how to say? ... a bit crooked.IP: Logged |
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posted May 31, 2006 10:52 AM
Jwhop is angry because she turned him down a few years ago. Ever since then he just held a grudge.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2006 12:04 PM
I am a Scorp rising. I can see the wheels spinning in minds. Hillary is no mystery to me. Hillary's as corrupt and personally lawless as the day is long...as her past actions prove. Right now, she's attempting to navigate...tack back and forth between the far left radical fringe and the political middle. It's not going to work. IP: Logged |
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posted May 31, 2006 12:06 PM
Well folks..my onion.. I foresee Hillary becoming President..and I foresee..this being a very turbulent time ahead.. what you fear..will happen..because so much feed into it!Love and Respect for ALL. ...
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pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2006 12:41 PM
Nah... she won't become President. Her sins of the past will be thrown around again and again. Not to mention her illegal activities, stock schemes etc.... But, let's be honest. She won't become President because America is NOT ready for a female president at this time. Maybe in the next 15-20 years, but I think it is not yet on the horizon. There are too many conservative / liberal males that can't fathom a woman holding that type of position - even if we see women in the Senate, Congress, serving as Governors. Still - it isn't going to happen. People are still hashing out whether the Mormon Gov of Mass should run in the race because we have always had either a Catholic or Protestant President. Don't get me wrong, it WILL happen (a woman being president) but not in the next election. IP: Logged |
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posted May 31, 2006 12:43 PM
Not to mention her illegal activities, stock schemes etc Where's your proof?
Oh wait I forgot. You think you are white.
Just trying to fit in with Jwhop huh? Nah... she won't become President
What are you Sylvia browne? Lmfaooo. She acts all confident as if she has intuitive powers or something.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2006 12:54 PM
Yes TP, the stock scheme...actually a Futures scheme intended to pass along a bribe from Tyson Foods to Bill and Hill.A series of illegal transactions where an investing pool was established and whereby trades were made on both sides of commodity prices...cattle futures. The winning trades were credited to Hillary and the losing trades were posted against the other investors...really a front group for Tyson Foods. Bill and Hill got their bribe, Tyson Foods got it's waiver from Bill to pollute the Arkansas waters and the licensed futures trader lost his license. Such a deal. From this, leftists deduced Hillary was the most brilliant woman to ever trod the earth Which only goes to show the intellectual capacity of leftists. IP: Logged |
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posted June 01, 2006 03:00 AM
quote: Jwhop is angry because she turned him down a few years ago. Ever since then he just held a grudge.
You sure seem to dislike her Jwhop! You have to give the lady credit. She is brilliant! I don't think she is as bad as you contend!
quote: But, let's be honest. She won't become President because America is NOT ready for a female president at this time. Maybe in the next 15-20 years, but I think it is not yet on the horizon.
I agree... I don't see it happening, the way everything is organized... they will not let it happen, even if she is ready, which I think she is, I like Hillary! IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2006 02:01 PM
quote: You sure seem to dislike her Jwhop! You have to give the lady credit. She is brilliant! I don't think she is as bad as you contend!
I have to give Hillary credit silverstone? Credit for what? Credit for being involved in bribery? Credit for setting up a scheme to defraud an Arkansas Savings and Loan with Bill and her partners in crime..the McDougals? Credit for being involved in an illegal procurement and review of 900 republican FBI files? Credit of filing false charges against the White House Travel Office Staff and putting them through the hell of a trial...when all it was necessary to do to give their positions to Hillary's friends was to have Commander Corruption dismiss them. Those people served at the "pleasure of the President" and no explanation or cause for dismissal was necessary. You will be happy to hear a Federal Jury came back with a "Not Guilty" verdict in about 20 minutes. Credit for obstructing justice by hiding her Rose Law firm billing records for 2 and a half years while they were under subpoena from a Whitewater Special Counsel? Credit for trying to hijack about 15% of the US economy in her failed attempt to install a Marxist government run health care system in America? Credit for a memory so bad she answered 250 times in front of Congressional Hearings that she didn't remember? Credit for eyesight so bad that she walked right past his missing billing records for 2 and a half years while they were sitting in plain sight on a table in the entrance to the private quarters of the White House? Or, credit for suddenly finding her missing billing records a few days after the Statute of Limitations expired on the subpoena demanding she produce them. I don't call any of that brilliant. I call ALL of that utterly corrupt. Now I get it silverstone, you're putting me on
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