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lalalinda
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posted June 20, 2006 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5098186.stm
This is so bad.
I'm heartsick,
My question for those of you who have been following the war in Iraq closely is "are these the first American Soldiers who have been beheaded?"
Jwhop? Piddy? Mirandee? anyone?
Please explain the implications to me.
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posted June 20, 2006 11:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Payback for Haditha?

So how long do you figure before "the whole world is blind"?

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Elsewhere, at least one elderly woman was killed along with a suicide bomber who blew himself up inside a home for the elderly in the southern city of Basra.

?? The old folks must have been conspiring with the enemy ??


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posted June 20, 2006 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't see anything about beheading, just the torture.

It makes my heart sick as well LLL My prayers are with their families..

I hope that people can offer their prayers and condolences without turning this into an Anti-anything thread.

Tink... LOL.... maybe she was hoarding the depends that held the GPS tracking devices... kidding......

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Venusian Love
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posted June 20, 2006 03:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read on aljazeera that the throats were slit.


I don't even know why you would feel bad about it Pidua. You after all support Bush. If you support Bush then you support the war.

Shouldn't be awwwwing at all. This is why I don't like war. Jesus Christ these kids were my age, imagine that?


So easy for that stupid old fart to sit in the oval office all day in a nice comfty leather chair drinking cocktails and sending people off to war. A war he started, A war he has always wanted, A war his father never got to finish.


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posted June 20, 2006 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lalalinda,

I don't know how many US military personnel have been beheaded by the terrorists in Iraq...a few is the best answer I can give you.

As for the reasons and implications, I think I can speak to that.

A few months ago, maybe as far back as 6 months ago, a letter to the number 2 man in al-Qaeda, Ayman Zawahiri from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaeda leader in Iraq was intercepted. al-Zarqawi will be writing no more letters.

In that letter, the game plan was revealed and it doesn't include a military victory for terrorists in Iraq.

al-Zarqawi made it clear terrorists were losing in Iraq and had been reduced to an annoyance and that's the way the Iraqi government and the Iraqis thought of them...an annoyance, not a military threat.

al-Zarqawi made it clear they were fighting a propaganda war, not in Iraq but in the United States. The goal of that propaganda war was to get US and coalition forces removed from Iraq. Not because we are invaders and not because we were seen as a modern day extension of the Crusades but rather to leave the Iraqi military standing alone in hopes they could prevail over them. The goal is to overthrow the duly elected government of Iraq and establish a terrorist run theocracy there.

To that end, al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups have committed and continue to commit atrocities, including beheadings to shock Americans into withdrawing military forces. They have also staged what they called US atrocities with phony pictures, given lying reports to the American press in Iraq and had those reports sucked up like mothers milk.

The terrorist are supported directly or indirectly by those here who are demanding withdrawal and they're the same people in some cases who were always against the war to remove Saddam Hussein in the first place.

I don't recall seeing this letter in the main stream press or on broadcast TV or even a mention of it. I don't recall hearing it discussed by democrat members of Congress. The reason for that is simple. That letter is an indictment of democrat members of Congress and the US main stream media who are calling for a withdrawal of military forces and putting the worst possible face on the war..which is exactly what al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups in Iraq are hoping, praying and propagandizing for.

John Kerry, John Murtha, Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin, Pat Leahy, Barbara Boxer, Harry Reid, Diane Feinstein, Russ Feingold, Nancy Pelosi et.al., and the main stream media are the best friends and last hope of al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups in Iraq to win a victory in Iraq, a political victory, not a military victory.

To that end, terrorists blow up people, including women and children..Iraqi civilians with car bombs. They persuade the impressionable to strap on explosive belts and vests and blow themselves up at checkpoints, in the markets in cafes or any place else where there are sufficient targets to cause a stir which will be dutifully reported in the MSM here and give more ammunition to democrat cut and run artists in the Congress. And, they video tape and release those tapes of the beheadings of Americans, foreigners, US contractors and even other Iraqis to shock our sensibilities in hopes the anti war crescendo will escalate to the point a political decision will be made to withdraw.

Bush made it clear a few days ago there will be no politically forced decision made to withdraw US forces from Iraq. And that's the right decision in light of the fact the terrorists are being decimated every time they attempt to engage coalition military forces or Iraqi military units. Further, ordinary Iraqi citizens are now tipping off both Iraqi military and coalition military forces as to who those terrorists are and where they're hiding out.

So, it's abundantly clear that democrats in Congress, antiwar groups and the main stream media are giving hope and aid to the terrorists in Iraq that if they can just hold out a little longer, they will get what they want, a US military withdrawal.

What I'm seeing is the clearest, most in your face kind of aid and comfort to the enemy. In most circles, that's called treason and I despise those who are involved. They are unfit to serve in government, unfit to be read by Americans and very fit to be charged and tried.

When you tie that to the disclosures in the press of the top secret NSA program to track terrorists phone, email, fax and other communications and the howls and screams out of the press and democrat members of Congress, it becomes even more clear whose side they are on in this war. It sure as hell isn't ours.

Their actions have the effect of lengthening the war, increasing US, coalition casualties and the outright murder of Iraqi civilians for propaganda effect. Without the support of their US partners in the propaganda war, it would have been over some time ago. As it stands, because of the efforts of US sympathizers, because of statements coming out of democrat mouths, Iraqi civilians were afraid to declare themselves...feeling the US might abandon them to the tender mercies of the terrorists. Now, they're beginning to report terrorists to the authorities.

That's the main reason Bush flew into Baghdad, looked the new Iraqi Prime Minister Jawad al-Maliki straight in the eyes and told him, "we will not abandon you". Of course, the press immediately called it a "stunt", "rude" to show up announced, expressed shock Bush would announce there would be a video conference from Camp David to throw the press off, blah, blah, blah.

I suppose the press wanted to announce to the terrorists that Bush was going to arrive at the Baghdad Airport in hopes one of the terrorist groups would bring Air Force One down with a missile.

A long winded way to answer your question about the implications of the beheadings.

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Venusian Love
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posted June 20, 2006 03:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh shut up jwhop lmfaoooooooooooooooooo


Don't feel bad about their deaths. You supported it.


Don't try and make yourself look better just by typing about Bush and how he went to Iraq. Who gives a damn whether he did or not.


That's not gonna bring these kids back.


You support war, You supported their deaths so who gives a damn about Al-Quaeda.


It's these kids lives we're talking about.

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posted June 20, 2006 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Insanity in the family is so hard to hide.

There was a time when crazy aunts, uncles and children were consigned to the house.

Now, parents let them walk around and blather their insane blitherings in public.


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Venusian Love
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posted June 20, 2006 04:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are fake crocodile tears you got their buddy.


Go explain to those kids families why this war is so good.


You do it here on a daily basis.


Tell them how something so good stopped these kids from reaching the age of 26.


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jwhop
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posted June 20, 2006 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Swamp Gas Gal, the families already know what their family members were and are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. You would too if you could decipher words with more than 3 letters.

So far, more than 50 million Muslims have been set free from murderous dictators.

So far, free elections have been held in Afghanistan and Iraq and there are permanent representative governments in place there.

Tens of thousands of murderous terrorists have been killed and more captured.

Libya has given up it's WMD programs including their nuclear weapons program.

Syria has vacated Lebanon after controlling Lebanon more than 20 years.

I don't expect you can read this being a product of the NY public school system but others who can actually read and comprehend can.

The trouble with Swamp Gas Gal is that she's on the side of the terrorists, was on the side of Saddam Hussein and the Taliban and is on the side of any enemy of the United States.

The cover she tries to give herself...being on the side of kids...oh the compassion she goes on about...in the most disgusting way I might add...is blown when it's understood Saddam Hussein ordered or otherwise oversaw the murder of about 1,000,000 Iraqi civilians....including children. He also oversaw the rape of women and young girls and torture of children during the 30 years he terrorized the citizens of Iraq.

So, Swamp Gas Gal can take her phony compassion and stuff it...and not only her but all the rest of the phonies in the antiwar crowd.

It's also notable SGG and the rest of the phony compassion crowd have not one word to say about the million or so North Koreans, children among them, who have been systematically starved to death by Kim Jong Il. Nor has one word been uttered about the millions starving there today, children among them, as a result of this little insane monsters actions.

So SGG, I doubt anyone believes your phony compassion act and if they did, if they can understand English and bother to check what you've said on this forum...and more importantly, what you haven't said...then they won't believe your phony compassion act any longer.

Compassion isn't selective. You either have it or you don't. You don't.

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posted June 20, 2006 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop.. nicely done The best form of VL repellent is to state the facts, using words only intelligent people can understand (those consisting of more than the 3 letters you discussed LOL) and then ask her to respond in an intelligent manner.

LMAO.... then sit back and watch her head explode.


The terrorists have a ton of help with their propaganda war- especially here in the US. Sad.. but true.

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jwhop
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posted June 20, 2006 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn Pid, I forgot to ask TP to respond in an intelligent manner

So, I'll probably just get the usual TP answer:

you suk
Bush suks
Cheney suks
Rumsfeld suks
America suks

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posted June 21, 2006 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venusian love.....please at least download/watch a couple frontline episodes on the iraq war/bush administration. Even a michael moore film for god sakes. Then at least you'll dislike bush for some logical reasons.

Bush really isn't the man calling the shots. He's not a moron, and hes not evil. He's just a sweet guy who is being used for his name. If you wanna hate, point your figners at Cheney, Libby, Rummy...the rest.

Please dont' make such one sided statements as...if you support Bush you are evil. Issues are more complex than this, and although I consider myself "liberal" minded, these sort of knee jerk reactions are so incredibly boring. Read the economist, read SOMETHING.

Jwhop of course goes into the classic conservative arguement, which is to state all the benefits of our wars, but not to list any of the costs. Needless to say, these wars, especially the Iraq war, have been quite costly, even Jwhop will admit that. There are also benefits, many Iraqis are very glad to have Saddam out. I'm glad hes out. But when you review the evidence, you realize there was false information given out by libby. There were no weapons. There are no weapons. This is why so many CIA resigned in 2005-2006, shame. There was no justified reason to enter Iraq. Or at least, a UN sanctioned reason. The benefits have been great, but I'd like to see a pull out plan.

I'd like to hear what Jwhop and PIduau think about a pull out plan? (and I dont' mean as a birth control method) Lets face it, its a blood bath over there. Its not pretty. I love this country, but I wouldnt' send my kids over there, nor would I go. These deaths are just gonna keep coming. I wanna know when this stable govt is gonna come up? Kerrys recent plan for an immediate pullout seems a bit rediculous. It seems to me that the civilian admin (rummy etc) need to listen more to the generals, from what I've read they seem to know whats up.

So, pull out? and when?

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posted June 21, 2006 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hue Again (and Again)
Our infrequent excesses vs. the persistent barbarism of our enemies.
By James S. Robbins

Three American soldiers in Iraq have been charged with murder for the deaths of three prisoners of war. Meanwhile two captive American soldiers were slain by insurgents. Privates Kristian Menchaca and Thomas L. Tucker were tortured, killed barbarically, and their bodies left to be found wired with booby traps. For the insurgents it was cause for celebration. “We have executed the Exalted Almighty God's verdict on the two Crusader infidels we captured, by slaughtering them,” the Mujahedin Shura Council stated. “God is great. Glory be to God.”

Any bets on which of these stories has more staying power? My guess is we won’t be hearing much more about Menchaca and Tucker. But the Iraqi prisoner deaths, along with two investigations into alleged illegal killings by Marines at Haditha and Hamdania, are stories that will be with us for a long time to come.

For some reason the infrequent excesses of our own troops make more news and are treated as more significant than the persistent barbarism of our enemies. To a previous generation the emblem of American shame was My Lai. On March 16, 1968, U.S. troops in Vietnam gunned down hundreds of civilians in this small hamlet, until stopped by other American soldiers who happened on the scene and threatened to open fire if the men did not cease what they were doing.

The My Lai story broke in November, 1969. Around the same time papers were reporting the details of another massacre. In early February 1968, during the Tet Offensive, Viet Cong guerillas rounded up and summarily executed thousands of civilians in the ancient capital of Hue, which was temporarily under their control. Government officials, businessmen, Catholics, intellectuals, and others deemed socially undesirable were shot down in trenches dug in the city parks, clubbed to death in makeshift prisons, or led away in the countryside to be murdered and thrown into a ravine.

My Lai was a Pulitzer Prize-winning story. The incident at Hue was overshadowed, and soon forgotten. But note the significant differences. My Lai was an indiscriminate, illegal act on the part of a small group of Americans, and was halted by Americans. When the events came to light, the officers involved were brought up on charges. By contrast, Hue was not an act of excess but the cold-blooded implementation of North Vietnamese policy. Those who committed the act were doing the bidding of their superiors, and had they not been wiped out by U.S. and ARVN forces they would have been hailed as heroes.

So why is it that My Lai has become a byword for brutality while Hue is a footnote? Why will Menchaca and Tucker be forgotten while incidents like those under investigation — or the grotesque theater of Abu Ghraib — will persist, fester, be written about, analyzed, become vehicles for critiques of U.S. policy, the military, or the whole of American culture?

By rights these incidents should demonstrate that we are better than our enemies. We are civilized, they are barbarians. What we are fighting for is objectively superior to what they are fighting for. Our struggle is legitimate, theirs is not. There is no room for moral relativism in this war. Certainly those who view torture and beheading as acts of piety have no problem seeing it as a black and white conflict. And when faced with extremism of this sort, we should take it at face value.

Those who say that one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter should be asked how they define freedom. Those who compare terrorist or guerrilla leaders to George Washington or other Founding Fathers should explain when it was exactly that they ordered the killing of innocents as a method, or even as a matter of expediency. And especially when they ever sought to invoke God’s approval for inflicting agonizing deaths on helpless captives.

I doubt any two other incidents could better illustrate what we are fighting for. In our system, killing prisoners is wrong, and those who do it are punished. In their system, killing prisoners is a blessed act, God’s will made manifest. If nothing else, this latest terrorist atrocity supplies some badly needed perspective. That is, if anyone is paying attention.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NWUxOTNhY2Q3OWJlZDgxYmIwMjkyMDJlNWRlMmNhMTQ=

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posted June 21, 2006 11:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was the one who gave the go ahead...for the war.


He's responsible and I don't give a damn what anyone says.

All it took were those words and the bombing began.


He's an evil ******* just like his father.

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posted June 21, 2006 12:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venusian LOve..how can you say that?
if we had not gone to war..the terrorist
war would be happening here. ...

War is ugly, but sometimes necessary,
with disruption comes change...

LOve and Respect for ALL...

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posted June 21, 2006 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
QUOTE: "War is ugly, but sometimes necessary,"

Sigh....

........I shake my head....don't like that statement. Don't believe in that. The way the world is right now---so much poverty, so much aggressiveness...so many people dying and suffering all over the world...is 'war' necessary in the poorly developed African nations? What about Timor? Did anyone help Timor after Indonesia invaded it? Who helps who when the same atrocities committed by Saddam are also committed in MANY MANY MANY other parts of the world????

Let me just stop because this is just going back and forth and I currently don't have the stamina for it.

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posted June 21, 2006 01:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry..it's Karma!

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jwhop
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posted June 21, 2006 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for dropping in Luvly.

I think I've heard some of what you say before though stated a different way.

Let's see if I have it right.

If all the ills of the world cannot be addressed in one fell swoop then the task should not be begun at all?

The US cannot be everywhere, nor does the US have strategic interests everywhere.

The UN, which is the body set up specifically to address some of the issues you raise is so totally inept, bungling and corrupt that much of what you complain of simply goes on right under the UN noses. It sometimes goes on while UN peacekeeping forces are on the ground in African nations, while UN food and other aid program personnel are on the ground in African nations.

In some instances, the UN itself is the problem.

I'm not sure what you're advocating Luvly. Bush is already being accused of meddling in the affairs of other nations.

What do you think would be the response if Bush sent US Rangers and Special Forces to say...Sudan? Snatched the Prime Minister/President/Dictator out of his palace and executed him, his corrupt advisors, members of the Sudan Parliament, his generals then went after the Janjaweed. The Janjaweed, the government backed Islamic terrorist militia which ravages the countryside, sweeps into villages, kills all the men, shoots their cattle, destroys their crops, rapes the women and young girls and drives them out of the area. What if the US forces caught them, executed them and then proceeded to set up a representative government there, build the infrastructure necessary for decent living conditions for all Sudanese and stuck around to protect the fledgling government?

I can hear the screams of outrage now.

That's only one country but make no mistake. It's going to take something exactly like that to stop some of those governments and their dictators and corrupt officials from bleeding the resources of their nations into Swiss bank accounts and oppressing, starving, murdering and torturing their own citizens.

We have learned well that talk doesn't get it done. Sanctions don't get it done. The UN doesn't get it done. Neither does time produce noticeable or beneficial change.

The US has sent hundreds of billions of dollars to African nations, most of which wound up in Swiss bank accounts of those nations leaders. The US has also sent hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of tons of food to African nations. Most of that was ripped off by government officials and sold to those it was intended to be given to, sold outside the country or allocated to the dictators or government officials supporters or military.

Zimbabwe is another example.

So Luvly, should the process not begin...because it can't all be done at once?

Should America come home and say screw it, go your own way?

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If all the ills of the world cannot be addressed in one fell swoop then the task should not be begun at all?

would that we all were able to swoop as you do, majestic one...

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posted June 21, 2006 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted June 21, 2006 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey salome, I got to looking at what you might think the implications might be that I posted a buzzard right after your post about the swoop bit.

Just so you know, that was supposed to be a funny...about me.

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posted June 22, 2006 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Murdered Soldiers: A Time for Rage
Michael Reagan
Friday, June 23, 2006

The biblical book of Ecclesiastes tells us tells us there's a time for everything, including "a time to love and a time to hate ... a time for war and a time for peace."

There is also a time for rage, and in this time of war that time is now.

The bodies of two courageous U.S. soldiers, Pfc. Kristian Menchaca and Pfc. Thomas Tucker, were found Monday, and, according to CNN reports, "mutilated and booby-trapped." They had been so horribly mutilated, with their eyes gouged out and their remains so desecrated, a visual identification was impossible – DNA testing was needed in order to confirm their identities. CNN also reported that not only were the bodies booby-trapped, but homemade bombs also lined the road leading to the victims, an apparent effort to complicate recovery efforts and kill recovery teams.

That story makes my blood boil – and it should make yours reach the boiling point too. More than anything else in the recent events in Iraq, this horrific outrage demonstrates with awful clarity the kind of depraved monsters we are facing in the war on terrorism.

It also shows why they must be eliminated from the face of the earth. They are a species with which civilized mankind cannot co-exist. During the Civil War, when Gen. T.J. (Stonewall) Jackson was asked how to deal with the enemy, he had a simple answer: "Kill 'em; kill 'em all."

The hideous torture and killing of Kristian Menchaca and Thomas Tucker should tell us that it's time to adopt Jackson's strategy as our own. Their deaths are proof that we face an enemy that will never cut and run, but will lurk in the shadows and strike out against us at every opportunity until they have been wiped off the face of the earth. Nothing else can guarantee the safety of the American people.

Incredibly, in some quarters, instead of provoking rage – and a firm and renewed determination to prevail in the war against Islamofascist terrorism no matter how long it takes – this unspeakable outrage has been seized upon as an opportunity to make political capital out of a disaster of mammoth proportions.

The anti-war left in the Democrat party and the Bush haters in much of the mainstream media have been shameless in their reaction to the deaths of these two brave men.

How many relatives, for example, did NBC News have to canvass before they found a kin of Pfc. Menchaca who would take the occasion of his relative's murder to express his anti-administration views? NBC's "Today" show found Ken MacKenzie, Menchaca's uncle, who obligingly told NBC, "Because the U.S. government did not have a plan in place, my nephew has paid for it with his life." He added that the government should have offered a $100 million reward and offered to exchange mujahideen detainees for the soldiers' lives. It seized enough money from Saddam Hussein to afford it, he said.

He had nothing to say about the brutes who murdered his nephew, and he expressed no anger at them.

The Democrats all but jumped for joy over the sleazy opportunity they saw to exploit the soldiers' deaths for their political purposes. Listen to Illinois Democrat Sen. Dick Durbin's comment that the discovery of the two mutilated soldiers' bodies is a "grim reminder of the price we're paying for a failed policy in Iraq."

Like McKenzie, he didn't bother to direct his anger at the fiends who committed the atrocity.

Nor did he or any of his anti-war Democrat colleagues bother to note that the so-called "failed policy" in Iraq has produced 5 million Iraqi children inoculated since the U.S went into Iraq, any number of schools and hospitals have been built, 32,000 teachers have been trained, 20 million Iraqis now have clean water – all the positive things they and the media studiously ignore.

Now instead of the rage they should feel, these white-flag-waving Democrats are demanding that the U.S. set some sort of timetable for withdrawal, ignoring the fact that such an act would be a signal to the al-Qaida butchers to be patient and hang in there and wait for the U.S. to cut and run.

Have they no shame?
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/6/22/185423.shtml

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posted June 22, 2006 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG... how horrifying. And people get angry over the American's putting underwear on the heads of a few Iraqi prisoners.

What about OUR people folks? This is a true testament about the barbaric nature of our enemy. They have been torturing people for centuries - yet when they torture our own - we turn a blind eye, with the exception of using the deaths of our Soldiers to further a Liberal agenda.

Our own people raise the hue and cry over not giving enough prayer time to the jerks at Gitmo- but I can bet these two Soldiers would have taken the treatment we give our enemy prisoners over the brutal torture and death they have given our Soldiers.

Before the next person DARES to say how terrible we are in Gitmo - lets us think about what these two men went through before life finally slipped from their bodies.

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It's sad that these young boys were murdered...

But this happens to young Iraqi men everyday. Only they've been given the label of "terrorist" so their deaths are allowed.

What a F^cked up world.

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posted June 22, 2006 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really? It seems our news publishes all the negative things against our Soldiers and what is being done over there.

I have yet to hear that a US Soldier captured an Iraqi terrorist (or person) then slowly burned their bodies, gouged their eyes out, slowly mutilated their bodies etc...


I guess the problem is that to the prisoners of Abu it must be better to have ones eyes gouged out than wear fruit of the looms on ones head.

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