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ozonefiller
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posted June 26, 2006 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Evil has a smiling face, that's how he got the job,
Oodles of sincerity, on first-name terms with God
Unshakeable commitment to the profit... of his mates
And when there's evil work to do, he always delegates...

Evil people, Evil people -
they sit around deciding who to bomb
Evil people, People who are evil
- I don't know what planet they are from
Some of them are power-mad and greedy
Some of them are victimised and weedy
Some of them are desperate and needy
And some of them are just plain seedy…

9.11, beautiful blue heaven
televised for everyone to see. (every t.v.)
What a wonder it should be that number
Americans call in emergencies..
Almost like somebody had designed it
to trip that panic trigger in your mind
But take that knot of terror and unwind it -
The fingerprints are everywhere to find
(behind it)
"The world has changed!" and "Nothing is the same!"
-except we're in denial once again.
Gotta a funny feeling 'bout Insider Dealing
down on Wall Street on September 10
Someone must have had it in their diary,
Made a million when the airline fell;
There should've been a national enquiry
But you-know-who was in on it as well!
Rigged elections, mass deception
It doesn't look so very hard to do (doo-doo-)
Don't let the camera linger. Just point the finger,
Find 'em someone scarier than you
Once it was the Reds beneath my bed
- now it is a moslem in my shed.
Once it was the communists I feared,
Now it is a brown man with a beard!
(sweet jesus)
Oh Osama, not a mellow drama,
The Evil Mastermind who got away. (hey hey hey)
What a bummer, earlier that summer
If he was meeting with the CIA!
CIA who funded Al Quaeda
Beat the commies with the Taliban
Told Osama "Be there when we need ya,
And have you thought of moving to Iran?"
(Ali Bur Tonn- )
Cheney tradin' - Bushes and Bin Ladens
Best of buddies on the Carlisle Group
To profit from destruction, and reconstruction,
How speedily they mobilise the troops
but not the fighter-jet they never scrambled
Even after hijack number three,
Never intercepted as they ambled
All the way to Washington DC!
Do ya'see
-how Evil People, use the media People
to take us for a War On Terror ride! ( i-di-di-di )
You can't beleive it, let alone conceive it,
The biggest crime is easiest to hide...
But Think about the passport in the rubble
Check the pilots' manual in the car
Read the lies and alibis of Dubya
And realise how gullible we are

A sleight of hand, a war already planned
Distracting us with shock ! and awe (awe my gawd)
While we're in distress
From what we've witnessed
They're queueing up to tell us what we saw
-Looked alot like double demolition
2.1 upon the Richter scale
But what we got was global terror-vision
And military anthrax in the mail-box - more shocks -

Evil people, People who are evil -
they sit around designing cluster-bombs (then drop them on)
the population - no hesitation -
They don't even know they're doing wrong!
They beleive to murder and to maim is
Regrettable, but in a noble cause
Some times the only way to win the game is
To sacrifice some pieces that are yours... (3000 more)

Scary people - not really Evil,
A little bit of them's in you and me. (that's hard to see)
Once they were babies - just little babies,
Sitting crying on their nannies knee.
But mummy was too busy spending money
Daddy was to busy making war
Even Saddam was someones little honey
Just picking up the ugliness he saw... (around him)

How they did it may remain a mystery
But anyone can see the reasons why,
And when our great-grandchildren read the history
They'll know "The War On Terror" was a lie

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posted June 26, 2006 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya pretty much hit the nail on the head

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And when our great-grandchildren read the history
They'll know "The War On Terror" was a lie

yeah, how much truth can be revealed in just a few words....

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"

"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation"

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posted June 26, 2006 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By my estimates, about four percent of the population is evil - that is about one person in twenty five.

The mental abilities of evil people closely echo those of the normal population; there is a bell shaped curve of intelligence in both good and evil people.

Most good people are only aware of the least intelligent part of the evil distribution; those are the people who are obviously evil: criminals. The normal and intelligent ends of the evil distribution totally escape most good people's understanding. In this web page I will describe those undetected parts of evil.

What does an evil person of normal intelligence look like? Most people are very familiar with them. An evil person of normal intelligence is a person who makes life difficult, painful, and unpleasant for the good people around them. The supervisor who creates a crises at work by trying to pour a cup and a half of coffee into a cup and then requires everyone to work holiday's and weekends to clean up the mess - is an example of an evil person of normal intelligence. What distinguishes such people from criminals is that they are quicker learners; they figure out what will happen to them if they pursue the sort of obvious evil things that the least intelligent of the evil spectrum do.

Evil people of normal intelligence are careful to do their best to blend into good society. This insulates and protects them from the angered reaction of good people; who would hammer them just as hard as they hammer the least intelligent of the evil. Indeed, evil people of normal intelligence are so successful at blending into good society that their statements, goals and culture have become 'normal' and 'accepted'. For example, the comic strip 'Miss Peach' is an example of the behavior and actions of evil people of normal intelligence. The 'Put Down', passive aggressive behavior, insults, 'back stabbing', these are all typical behaviors for evil people of normal intelligence. All of these things are so common that many good people adopt them as reasonable ways to behave; they are not, they are as evil as anything could be.

By far evil people of normal intelligence are the most common type of evil person most people encounter. The stress in most good people's lives comes from interaction with evil people of normal intelligence. The goal of the average evil person is to make the lives of those around them as miserable as they can - without doing enough to attract the retribution they richly deserve.

Next up the ladder is the evil person of above average intelligence. These people have a similar goal to evil people of average intelligence; the production of human misery. However these people see the opportunity to do something that evil people of normal intelligence don't see how to do; murder someone and get away with it. They understand that the way to murder someone and get away with it is to not care who they kill, how they kill them, or when they kill them. Such people set up conditions where someone will be 'accidentally' killed and wait for the circumstances to occur.

For example, I once worked for an evil person of above average intelligence who built up a company which did about twenty million dollars a year of business. He was only interested in his business as an instrument to his ends. He worked people long hours of overtime (without any extra pay) - he pushed people as hard as he could. What he was doing was setting up an environment as stressful as he could - secure in the knowledge that sooner or later - a death would be the result. Sure enough, a staff accountant driving home after a late night's work was hit by a drunken driver and killed. The boss was stunned; his life's goal had been accomplished - the guilt was obvious in his face the next day. He became very cheerful over the next several weeks, and lost interest in the company. Inside of a year and a half it was out of business.

Of course since he was cloaked in plausible deniability no criminal charges could ever be brought against him. But, he could see that the death had come as a direct result of his deliberately malicious behavior; he willed it, and it happened. Most industrial accidental deaths and injuries can be traced back to the malicious behavior of those who are evil and of above average intelligence.

That leaves us those who are evil and of high intelligence. Most good people are also familiar with these kind of people; we call them leaders - both of industry and of government. It is the goal of such people to get away with mass murder. An example will show how they work their agenda.

If you look at the Viet Nam War none of it makes much sense; not from a political standpoint, not from an economic standpoint, and certainly not from a military standpoint. Let us examine the well known case of 'Hamburger Hill'; a battle location in the Viet Nam war. In this engagement US forces fought their way up a hill against fierce opposition. Once the US forces had taken the hill they were ordered to MARCH BACK DOWN giving the hill back to the opposition. The action was repeated several times. The argument given was that the US forces were exhausting the enemy by forcing them to fight repeatedly. Of course the conventional military strategy is to exhaust the opposition forces by making them attempt to re-take the hill by force of arms - rather than by giving it back to them uncontested. The 'Hamburger Hill' strategy makes no sense whatsoever - unless you assume that very high up in the US government was an evil person of high intelligence whose goal was to murder ten's of thousands of people and get away with it. When thought of this way, the entire War in Viet Nam snaps into focus and makes sense - as far as I know, that is the ONLY explanation of the war that allows it to be understandable.

If you are a good person you will meet many evil people in your life, you need to recognize them and their actions. More importantly you need to recognize which evil behaviors you have been conned into excepting as reasonable and to reject those behaviors - both in yourself and in others - as unacceptable.

Of course Yin and Yang complicates the detection of evil; in any good person there is an element of evil - in any evil person there is an element of good. In a good man that element of evil belongs in his fighting spirit - where it causes no harm and strengthens his nature. Incidentally, it is because of this element of evil in the fighting spirit that good triumphs over evil; it is something evil lacks. In a evil man that element of good belongs in his ability to have it be pointed out to a prime example for good people to learn from his wickedness.

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posted June 26, 2006 04:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"If you are a good person"

There is good and evil,
Positive and negative in all of us
We are all capable of doing good and bad
We are all mere human beings

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posted June 26, 2006 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True, there might be positive and negative in all of us, but unfortunately in life whatever we do, it can either be good or bad or downright ugly at times!

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posted June 26, 2006 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOAH ozone that was an intense post.....that's gonna take a minute to absorb. FOr some reason I dont' believe people could be THAT evil....but maybe they can. A lot of these people have mental disorders like OCD, or psychotic disorder. I think perhaps being evil is simply a brain chemistry issue. But your right, there is a bell curve for almost any human quality, and a small percentage will fall in the category of "mean ****** people." I don't think most of them realize how crappy they make the world for everyone else, maybe they do?

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posted June 26, 2006 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, ask yourself this BR, how many people do you know that have Antisocial personality disorder and not realize it.

In fact, ask yourself whether or not you truely know what it really is and how to recognize it in others that are around you.

You can look it up...

...starting off with this page!

Antisocial personality disorder

I think that you'll really find this interesting!

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posted June 26, 2006 04:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ozone

Have you encountered people like this....are they in yer life (hope not)...cos I am fortunate enough not to know anyone like this....!

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posted June 26, 2006 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have studied it before......and I do know one guy who i'm pretty sure has it...I'm not really sure what your point is? Are you saying that most likely the evil people do not have this disorder?

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posted June 26, 2006 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A little test...to see where you really are. I mean, what good are unfocused complaints?

Some pairs for comparison AND for moral equivalence...you know good or evil. For each, please state whether good or evil and state whether morally equivalent or not.

Stalin
Hitler

Mao
Stalin

Castro
Mao

Bush
Hitler

Saddam
Stalin

Kim Jong il
Mao

Castro
Bush

Saddam
Bush

Clinton
Bush

Bush
Kim Jong il

Your boss
George Bush

Richard Nixon
Ho Chi Minh

Hugo Chavez
George Bush

Winston Chrurchill
Nevile Chamberlain

Winston Churchill
Adolf Hitler

Now, some nations

USA
Iran

Iran
North Korea

Israel
Iran

Israel
Palestinians

USA
North Korea

Great Britain
Iran

Great Britain
Sudan

USA
China

China
North Korea

Israel
Syria

Ireland
Great Britain

Ireland
Iran

France
USA

Denmark
Algeria

India
Pakistan

Pakistan
Iran

USA
Venezuela

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posted June 26, 2006 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes SueG, I have met some people that are like this in some extreme, I had a couple encounters like this.

To answer your question BR, I think that everyone has something of a APD, but not all distribute in such an extreme degree.

Most times a normal person that would show of such signs would be a person that enjoys going to see violent, high action and/or horror films let say. But some have it to the point that can either be very noticeable or not at all, it all depends of they're intelligence for the most part.

People of this caliber of high intellengence would know the bounderies and calculate all the odds, before substaining the evil deeds to be performed on those that would not normally notice, usually that would be good people unfortunately.

Only through such past experiances does it ever become noticeable by good people.

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posted June 26, 2006 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even that, some good people have come to accept evil people and the things that they do, without having any consideration of whether or not it is evil either.

Evil is something that can be recognize, but not always recognizable.

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posted June 26, 2006 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And when our great-grandchildren read the history
They'll know "The War On Terror" was a lie
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I believe the opposite is true. Not only will the future demonstrate the war on terror was valid and true- we'll also find out that this war prevented more deaths than those that gave their lives to stop evil dictators.

Our great-grandchildren will discover that many in the Adminstration had the ba*lls to go to war even when the shrill voices from the left kept crying about keeping our heads in the sand. They will find out how evil those that supported and acted as terrorists actually were and what they would have done had we not acted as we did.

They will decry the liberal left that told us we were wrong for over-throwing an evil murdering jerk such as Saddam and laugh at the idiots that believed Osama was just a warped guy with a warped plan when in actuality he was evil incarnate.

They will shake their heads at how people could have listened and quoted Al Jeezera while calling our own government a band of liars. The naysayers will be compared to those that turned a blind eye while Stalin, Hitler and other's killed their own people instead of jumping into the war.


Yes.. I think a lot will come out in future generations - but it won't be what the liberal left has predicted.

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posted June 26, 2006 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True JW, their are comparisons, their are moral equivalence, but then their are you differences too as well.

Thier is some good in evil people of course and vice versa, Yin and Yang, but their are those rare few that truely bend they're lives on such, but this again is true that their is an element of goodness in the person somewhere, just tucked away so deep, it is almost unrecognizable.

A soldier is normally a good person, his/her job is to provide order, even if s/he has to kill in order to provide order.

What about Dennis Rader, did he have any good in him? I'm sure that he did, it took a long time for him to be cought, right? Nobody thought that he was to be The BTK strangler throughout that whole time. But the question remains, is he evil?

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posted June 26, 2006 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that when it comes to that Pid, their might not be any real telling of what anyone will think years down the road about the Iraq War and/or the War on Terror.

Right now, we don't even know whether or not it is to be a success yet.

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posted June 26, 2006 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The naysayers will be compared to those that turned a blind eye while Stalin, Hitler and other's killed their own people instead of jumping into the war.

We have capital punishment in this country, does this mean that we too kill our own people?

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posted June 26, 2006 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, that is exactly right Ozone.

There is no difference between killing a serial killer and an innocent Iraqi man that said Allah wasn't all he was cracked up to be.

Or better yet, there is nothing different between killing a serial pedophile that has turned to also murdering young rape victims and Saddam's henchmen killing / torturing children in order to make their parents confess to made up conspiracy charge.


Apples and Oranges Ozone... Apples and Oranges

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posted June 26, 2006 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Apples and Oranges Ozone... Apples and Oranges

Two of each can be held with both hands!

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posted June 26, 2006 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well... I suppose that depends on the size of ones hand vs the size of ones fruit

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posted June 26, 2006 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm!

"This is my rifle and this is my gun...."!

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posted June 26, 2006 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good argument Ozone. Now if you could just figure out which "one" is for fun.

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posted June 26, 2006 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozonefiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No comment!

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posted June 26, 2006 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good idea!

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posted June 26, 2006 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hee hee...........

Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?



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