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DayDreamer
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posted June 28, 2006 05:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iraq insurgents offer to stop attacks

By STEVEN R. HURST and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writers
1 hour, 17 minutes ago

Eleven Sunni insurgent groups have offered to halt attacks on the U.S.-led military if the Iraqi government and President Bush set a two-year timetable for withdrawing all foreign troops from the country, insurgent and government officials told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

The demand is part of a broad offer from the groups, who operate north of Baghdad in the heavily Sunni Arab provinces of Salahuddin and Diyala. Although much of the fighting has been to the west, those provinces have become increasingly violent and the attacks there have regularly crippled oil and commerce routes.

The groups do not include the powerful Islamic Army in Iraq, Muhammad Army and the Mujahedeen Shura Council, the umbrella label for eight militant groups including al-Qaida in Iraq. But the new offer comes at a time when Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's government is reaching out to militant Sunnis, including a new amnesty plan for insurgent fighters.

Al-Maliki, in remarks broadcast on national television Wednesday, did not issue an outright rejection of the timetable demand but said it was unrealistic because he could not be certain when the Iraqi army and police would be strong enough to assume full responsibility for the country's security.

Eight of the 11 insurgent groups banded together to approach al-Maliki's government under the name of The 1920 Revolution Brigade. All 11, however, have issued identical demands, said the insurgent representatives and government officials.

The officials spoke on condition of anomymity because of the sensitivity of the information and for fear of retribution.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060628/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_insurgent_offer;_ylt=AjDUecvhIzdVUfAB_ZhX124UewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NTMzazIyBHNlYwMxNjk2

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lioneye68
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posted June 28, 2006 05:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is good news. At least it's a start.

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TINK
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posted June 28, 2006 11:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pleasantly surprised they were willing to wait 2 years. But if the hard-core insurgents aren't willing to join in on the offer (and who would trust them if they did?) it seems sadly beside the point. Hopefully some sort of agreement will come of this though. We really need to talk to almost any and all locals who are willing to talk back.

Ironically, if the fighting would stop we could easily leave a relativly well-structured Iraq within that 2 year time frame.

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DayDreamer
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posted June 29, 2006 12:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah this surprised me also...and they're willing to wait two years?!?

Well these groups making this pact will probably have an affect on other groups also.

A well-structured Iraq?...I wouldnt choose those words.

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TINK
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posted June 29, 2006 07:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Well these groups making this pact will probably have an affect on other groups also."

That would be the best case scenario, yes.

By "well-structured" I mean a new government, police force, army, schools, hospitals, etc all in place and operating. What word were you thinking of?

I was discussing today whether or not it could be considered an occupation in the traditional sense of the word. Obviously the Americans are there militarily, but on the other hand John Q. Public hasn't been installed as mayor of Baghdad. I'm not really sure what it is. I wonder if anybody does. That's probably a good portion of the problem.

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DayDreamer
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posted June 29, 2006 10:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasnt really thinking of a word. "Well-structured" would have been the furthest thing from my mind...within 2 years.

Some people dont know what it is, some do know, and other people's views on this are constantly swaying. The best thing to do is remain adaptable...if the insurgents continue fighting back then there wont be anything left in Iraq. They just want the US military out of their country.

I wonder what kind of government will hold a more permanent and favourable position. Hope it's one that will put the Iraqi people first.

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TINK
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posted June 29, 2006 10:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think a basic structure is possible in two years - a foundation, a beginning. It was done in Japan within that rough time frame. Of course the Japanese weren't bombing us - that makes things a bit more difficult doesn't it?

"Hope it's one who will put the Iraqi people first."

*sigh* It sure would be nice.

I read recently in the New York times (hear that, Jwhop?) that school attendance rates in Baghdad are up higher than they were during the Saddam days.

Hope springs eternal ....

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