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Mirandee
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posted July 25, 2006 02:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing that stands out about the book written by Ambah is that he was recruited in Saudi Arabia, within the school system there. Of the 19 terrorists responsible for 9/11 - 15 of them were Saudi citizens. Yet we are at war in Iraq and Afghanistan and threatening Iran and Syria and every other Middle Eastern country but Saudi Arabia???

The Would-Be Terrorist's Explosive Tell-All Tale

By Faiza Saleh Ambah
Special to The Washington Post
Monday, July 24, 2006; Page C01

JIDDAH, Saudi Arabia -- When Abdullah Thabit recently saw a photo of one of the Sept. 11 hijackers for the first time, he felt a jolt of fear, and then a sadness so intense that tears streamed down his cheeks. The hijacker, Ahmed Alnami, was from Thabit's home town, and he looked familiar.

Thabit is the author of "The 20th Terrorist," which recounts his years as a religious extremist. He thinks he could easily have been in Alnami's place.

"I felt like someone who'd gotten off a boat just in time and then watched it capsize with him and the others onboard," Thabit says. "I love Nami, but I hate what he did. And it terrifies me that that could have been me."

In "The 20th Terrorist," published in Syria in January, Thabit, a 33-year-old school administrator, chronicles his life among extremists led by a loosely knit group of public school teachers in the southern Asir region of Saudi Arabia who recruited him when he was in the ninth grade.

That the book went on sale in Saudi bookstores last month is an indication of how far the country has come in the five years since the attacks. It was a bestseller for several months on the Arab online bookstore Neelwalfurat.

Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, but for months after the attacks officials here denied any Saudis were involved. And until recently, criticism of the country's religious establishment and educational system has not been tolerated.

Since his book came out, Thabit has gotten favorable fan mail, and in March Prince Khalid al-Faisal, governor of Asir province, where the majority of the Saudi hijackers came from, bought 50 copies of "The 20th Terrorist" in Lebanon. The prince then invited the heads of Asir's education departments to his weekly salon and distributed it to them as mandatory reading.

But many other Saudis are angry about the book's revelations. Thabit was bombarded with hundreds of nasty e-mails each day from people calling him a traitor and an infidel. Some threatened to kill him. Then came the menacing phone calls. That's what finally spooked him. On April 3, in the middle of the night, he packed his bags, got his wife and two daughters into his Ford Grand Marquis and drove the 420 miles from Abha, in southwestern Saudi Arabia, north to Jiddah on the Red Sea, where he now lives.

Thabit continues to receive death threats. "They are like a mafia, a gang, and I am revealing their secrets. They want to silence me," he says.

"The 20th Terrorist" is one of he first books to describe how extremist teachers in Saudi public schools used apparently innocuous after-school activities such as soccer training, Koran memorization lessons and camping trips to separate teenage boys from their families and slowly indoctrinate them in takfiri ideology -- the belief that all those who don't follow the same puritanical extremist views are infidels.

Thabit recounts in detail the cultlike atmosphere of the extremist group he belonged to, and how it instilled loyalty to the group, and hatred and mistrust of the enemy.

"We were taught that our Islam was correct and everyone else, including our families, was going to hell, a hell that resembled a slaughterhouse. And I wanted to be one of the select few who made it into heaven," he says.

People, especially the young, are always looking for an identity -- they need a sense of who they are, Thabit says. "If your parents or your community or your country don't provide you with one, and most Arab countries don't, you will look for it elsewhere. And these groups provide you with one. Your identity becomes that of a devout Muslim and that then transcends everything else about you."

Curiosity about Thabit and his book has grown. Earlier this month he was invited to a book club meeting held by a small group of mainly university students.

Dressed casually in jeans and slippers, his prematurely gray hair falling just below the collar of his long-sleeved shirt, Thabit urged the young men and women to think independently. "Live, love, listen to music, enjoy art. When you go through what I've been through, you realize you were kidnapped, and you have to learn to live and taste and feel, all over again."

Abdullah al-Najjar, a 25-year-old airplane maintenance engineer sitting cross-legged in an armchair, leafed through the book and then noted: "You say the group stole years from your life, yet you make your time with them sound romantic and fun."

Seated in a velvet chair in the center of the room, Thabit took his time answering. Initially it was a lot of fun, he said. The soccer games, the attention, the prizes, the feeling of being important, special, of being part of something bigger than himself, the camaraderie. These were things he wasn't getting at home or at school.

But his experience was terrifying, too. "They use two primal instincts to keep you in their grip, fear and desire." Desire for heaven, fair maidens and the dream of setting up an Islamic caliphate. And fear of God's displeasure, hellfire and torture.

In the book, Thabit says one of his mentors, Yahya, took him on weekly trips to the cemetery, after midnight, where they would lie for hours in freshly dug graves and listen in the dark to a sermon about hell played on the car cassette player. The cleric would describe a hell filled with snakes, leaping fire and sinners stripped naked hanging on hooks, their skins peeled off. Life is temporary and the hereafter is forever, the cleric warned. Thabit often wept from fear. "When we left from there, I wanted Yahya to tell me anything I could do to be saved from hellfire and from that terror," he writes.

When he encountered the group, Thabit was a lonely 15-year-old with a miserable home life who spent his spare time studying and herding goats while his wealthier friends rode around town on their bicycles.

He was quickly noticed by teachers in the network of extremists for his excellent grades, and one of the older students was dispatched to invite him to an after-school soccer tournament organized by the group. He jumped at the chance to join the group, which included the high school's most remarkable students and was supervised by the most devout and respected teachers.

One of the first things he learned was not to imitate "infidels." That meant not dressing in training pants or clapping and whistling during soccer games -- the way infidels did. He was to show his enthusiasm by shouting "God is great." He was also taught that music, television and cigarettes were sinful. Cheating in English class, however, was okay; it was the language of the infidels.

He was a fast learner. Several years later he became one of the supervisors on the overnight camping trips the group took. During the trips, which sometimes included as many as 300 students, the camp was divided into teams. In the evenings, without weapons, some of them dressed like Afghan mujaheddin, they would practice stealth attacks against each other, overpowering guards and grabbing hostages and booty.

"There was unconditional love and brotherhood and friendship and sacrifice, and spirituality," he writes. "All obstacles were melted and we lived a spiritual existential as one. We lived . . . the pleasure of those building a new nation."

When Thabit turned 17, the group suggested he go to Afghanistan for jihad, or holy war, training. But he was afraid and said he didn't feel quite ready yet.

At the book club meeting, Najjar, the plane maintenance engineer, asked Thabit how he extricated himself from the group.

He said he was banished briefly by the group for not following orders. He also found he was put off by petty internal rivalries, and the way the leaders trivialized feelings and humiliated people they caught smoking or listening to music had shaken the image he had of them. "I was disillusioned by them, and questions were born in my mind about God, about myself, about everything, and I began looking for answers."

He started devouring moderate literature, which helped him to start thinking for himself, bit by bit. He had left the group by the time he was 20.

As the discussion wound up, the book club host walked around, pouring cardamom-laced coffee for his guests and passing out sticky dates filled with almonds. As people started getting ready to leave, one of the young men asked: "How do you feel about extremists now? How do you feel when you see one of them?"

"I feel very sad," Thabit said. "I wish they could live a life full of love and art and music. I wish they could regain their humanity. But their lives have been stolen from them and they don't even know it."

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mysticaldream
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posted July 25, 2006 07:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like a book everyone should read to get a better understanding of what turns a young boy into a terrorist. It's sad, the way they are being manipulated, especially by those in the educational system, whom they should be able to trust.
Can someone please clue me in on WHY the Saudis allow this to go on? Why haven't we confronted their government, as well?
It seems like we are always reacting, after the damage is done. Why can't we be involved in something proactive, helping to ensure these young boys are not exposed to such manipulation and propaganda? That is the real evil, people who rape the heart and souls of the young people, filling their minds with such garbage. What about the 12-17 year-old boys right now? WHO is doing anything to stop this from being perpetuated over and over again????

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Mirandee
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posted July 25, 2006 10:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have wondered the same thing about the Saudis, MC. Mainly since Bush said that any country that harbors or trains terrorists is also considered an enemy. But I also know that the Bush family is in pretty thick with the House of Saud. Bush has been pictured taking walks with the leaders of Saudi Arabia, holding hands and kissing them on the cheek. He met with one of the leaders of Saudi Arabia at the White House right after the attacks on 9/11.

I think as do many other people that the only way to eradicate terrorism in the world is to address the root causes of it. Wars against the terrorists, invasions of Middle Eastern countries and turning our heads and allowing Israel to do whatever it wants to do is not helping to eradicate terrorism, it is in fact serving only to create more and more terrorists.

But then again it seems that is what this administration wants to do because terrorism is a useful tool for them in creating fear in people. Easy to convince and control frightened people. Easy to amass more and more power when the people you govern are frightened.

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lioneye68
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posted July 26, 2006 01:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow - they use garden variety cult tactics to turn young men into zombies. Chilling.

Mirandee, just to confirm...you're suggesting that GWB masterminded the whole "terrorist" phenomenom, in order to better control the American public? You're giving alot of credit to someone who you've already declared to be dumber than the village idiot, don't you think?

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Mirandee
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posted July 26, 2006 02:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would be giving him a lot of credit if I thought for one minute he was the "brains" of the whole thing. I don't give Bush the credit at all.

You are reading things into what I said that are not there, lioneyes. I never said that anyone masterminded the terrorist phenomenon. Terrorists have been around for a long time now. What I said is that the Bush administration uses the terrorist phenomenon for their political advantage to promote fear and reign by fear.

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lioneye68
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posted July 26, 2006 11:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that little scheme seems to be failing miserably...I'm sorry, I just don't buy into that particular conspiracy theory for one second. Now, I could consider the possibility of Israel orchestrating such an event, as they did something simular in 1954, to create tension between the U.S. & Egypt, as their relationship was threatening to Israeli interests.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying... If you're going to kick around left field conspiracy theories about 9/11, at least make them conceivable in a practical sense.

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Mirandee
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posted July 26, 2006 11:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry but that little scheme HAS NOT failed miserably, lioneyes. Fear has served Bush well in amassing more and more power and taking away the freedoms of Americans guranteed under the Constitiution. But being in Canada you would be more aware of what is going on in this country than I am.

Who on this particular thread was kicking around conspiracy theories, lioneyes? What I said is that Bush and his administration has used THE EVENTS of 9/11 to further their political agendas through the use of fear. People who are frightened are more willing to give up their Constitutional rights in the name of "national security." That has been historically proven and every good dictator has known that tactic since the times of Julius Caesar and probably long before him.

I do happen to believe that 9/11 was an inside job and there are enough reasonable facts and questions that have gone unanswered to substantiate that belief. For one thing the U.S. is supposed to be the most powerful nation on earth and yet there was no one, no airforce or anyone around to intercept those high jacked planes on 9/11 even though a well established plan has been effect for years. Just a year or so prior to 9/11 F-14 fighter jets went up to intercept and monitor the private jet of a golf professional, Payne Stewart, that went off course. Yet not one fighter jet responded to the off course jet liners on 9/11. Don't you find that rather odd or even question it?

But that is not what I was talking about on this thread. I was talking about Bush using those events of 9/11 to further his power grabs and instill fear in the American people.

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lioneye68
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posted July 26, 2006 11:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok - What the hell do I know? I'm not in the loop like you, and I don't even know how to read. I don't know anyone who lives in the U.S., and I'm never exposed to American media. I'm not privy to the secret grape-vine of knowledge that you and Rainbow are, so I'll just shut the hell up. I don't really understand how much the American people are suffereing at the hands of Bush.

(ok, no free health care yet - I get that part)

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lotusheartone
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posted July 26, 2006 12:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for the record..9/11 was not an inside job..and to continue to repeat this lie..is horrible..

LOve and LIght and Truth to ALL. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted July 26, 2006 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
they can get health care..through welfare..what are they complaining about..my sister get's health care this way! in NH. ...

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lioneye68
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posted July 26, 2006 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps your constitution could be reinstated in all it's romantic glory if your country were to deport all peoples of Mulsim back-ground. Would that be an acceptable compromise? That would certainly make Homeland Security's job easier.

I wonder. Why hasn't that been proposed yet?

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mysticaldream
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posted July 26, 2006 01:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm... I can't say that I know the "real deal" behind any of the conspiracy theories and we certainly aren't going to deport people based on their religion, since freedom of religion is something America strongly stands for. I think it would be more beneficial to focus on what CAN be done to stop the brainwhshing of the young boys/men in this region. If any country wants to have a good relationship with us (America), don't you think we should require that as a minimum? You know they (Saudi Arabia) could put a stop to this if they really wanted to. It seems like they want to be "friends" with the extremists and with America; I don't know why we stand for it.

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