posted July 29, 2006 01:40 PM            

A UNITED Nations human rights body told Washington yesterday to close any "secret"detention centres for terrorism suspects, saying they were banned by international law.

Declaring it had "credible and uncontested" reports of such jails, the UN Human Rights Committee said the United States appeared to have been detaining people "secretly and in secret places for months and years".

"The state party should immediately abolish all secret detention," it said, echoing a similar demand in May by the UN committee against torture.

In its findings on US observance of the UN's main political rights' treaty, the committee said that the International Committee of the Red Cross must be given access to anybody held during armed conflict.

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posted July 29, 2006 01:52 PM            

So acoustic, if this is true then where are those "secret prisons" the leftists at the UN and elsewhere have been shrieking about? Surely they must know...since they're making the accusation. Unless it's just another leftist lie...which is about the only thing that ever escapes from between leftist lips....or the other leftist orifice located further down on leftists torsos.

One would think they've had plenty of time to uncover this terrible conspiracy. So, why haven't they...if they actually exist.

posted July 29, 2006 02:06 PM            

After all, you're the one who posted the group shrieik from the discredited UN committee.

Or, in leftist fashion, does it even matter to you if it's true or not?

posted July 29, 2006 05:04 PM            

Why don't I? Mostly because I don't have a problem with the U.N. asking us to follow international law. If you do, then the onus would be on you.

Does it matter to me if it's true? No, it doesn't, honestly. Even if we've gotten rid of the prisons, the Karma of receiving notices like this from the U.N. is probably justified. Our nation doesn't need to operate outside of human rights laws

posted July 29, 2006 05:44 PM            

If their allegation is true, it's simple enough to prove. Name the nations where these so called "secret prisons" exist.

Now acoustic, what could be more simple, fair and reasonable than that?

Until they do, I'll continue to think of these and the other leftists at the UN as the useless and utterly corrupt shriek group they really are.

Of course, you could cut right to the bottom line and name those nations yourself. Seems fair to me since you posted this piece of trash whining about human rights....when some of the worst abusers of human rights in the world sit on the very Committee making the allegation against the United States.

posted July 29, 2006 06:02 PM            

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If their allegation is true, it's simple enough to prove. Name the nations where these so called "secret prisons" exist.

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I did already answer this question to my own satisafaction. It's not my responsibility to name for you nations where secret prisons may or may not exist.

posted July 29, 2006 08:11 PM            

The burden of proof always falls on the accuser, so prove it.

You can't have answered anything along this line to your or anyone else's satisfaction. There is no proof, no evidence this was ever anything other than another lying accusation of the left.

If you say you've answered it to your satisfaction, then your bias is showing and it's not a pretty sight.

posted July 31, 2006 11:47 AM            

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Why not just admit there's no proof a word of this accusation is true.

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posted July 31, 2006 03:58 PM              

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Our nation doesn't need to operate outside of human rights laws

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This increasingly popular notion that a sovereign nation must uphold international law and answer to international unelected goverment bodies is really beginning to scare the bejesus out of me.

No doubt I'm sinking into unnecessary bombastic silliness here but I'm a citizen of the USA, not the damn UN and the latter can go screw. Why, in the name of all that's holy, do we agree to this sort of thing??

I'm not a huge Bolton fan but I am desperately waiting for the day when he tells Kofi to go f#ck himself.