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DayDreamer
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posted August 14, 2006 03:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gates criticises HIV abstinence policies

After donating half a billion dollars...
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002537.html

He has every right to speak out!!


Sarah Boseley in Toronto
Monday August 14, 2006

Guardian

Bill and Melinda Gates have come off the political fence and publicly backed key causes of Aids campaigners, criticising the abstinence policies beloved of the US government and calling for more rights for women and help for sex workers.
Making the keynote speech of the opening session of the 16th International Aids Conference in Toronto, on Sunday, the Microsoft billionaire and his wife, who have previously largely confined themselves to discussing and funding non-political scientific research, spoke with passion and commitment about the social changes necessary to stop the spread of HIV/Aids.

The "ABC" programme - abstinence, be faithful and use a condom - had saved many lives, Mr Gates told the conference of more than 20,000 delegates. But, departing from his government's line, he added that for many at the highest risk for infection, ABC had its limits.

"Abstinence is often not an option for poor women and girls, who have no choice but to marry at an early age. Being faithful will not protect a woman whose partner is not faithful. And using condoms is not a decision that a woman can make by herself; it depends on a man.

"We need to put the power to prevent HIV in the hands of women. This is true whether the woman is a faithful married mother of small children or a sex worker trying to scrape out a living in a slum. No matter where she lives or what she does, a woman should never need her partner's permission to save her own life."

The Gates Foundation is funding research into microbicides - gels or barrier creams a woman can use before sex that will kill HIV. An update on the research will take place during the week-long conference.

Mrs Gates called for an end to the stigma affecting those with HIV. "Stigma makes it easier for political leaders to stand in the way of saving lives," she said, in a direct attack on some African leaders whose reservations over condoms are encouraged by the US Christian fundamentalist right's belief that abstinence from sex is the answer.

"In some countries with widespread Aids epidemics, leaders have declared the distribution of condoms immoral, ineffective or both. Some have argued that condoms do not protect against HIV, but in fact help spread it. This is a serious obstacle to ending Aids. In the fight against Aids, condoms save lives. If you oppose the distribution of condoms, something is more important to you than saving lives."

She also criticised African governments whose officials accompanied the couple on their fact-finding trips, such as the recent one in July, up until the point that they went to see sex workers. "At that point, it can become too politically difficult to stay with us and our official hosts often leave," she said.

Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2006

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Isis
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posted August 14, 2006 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Disinformation regarding how to control the spread of AIDS (like saying condoms can help spread it) is horrible.

But the fact remains that the best and most effective way to stop the spread of an STD is abstinence. I'm not saying it's the only way, but it is the most effective. Perhaps it's not always a realistic expectation, and I'm not advocating a conservative Christian approach to stopping the spread of AIDS...I'm just saying that technically, abstinence IS the most effective approach, even if it's not the most realistic.

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posted August 14, 2006 04:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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DayDreamer
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posted August 14, 2006 04:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing Isis. I agree with you that abstinence is the most effective method!!

But that is not the point...if you read the article you (may) find out. For example, some women can't get away with abstaining with their husbands who may be unfaithful and pick up HIV from someone else.

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posted August 14, 2006 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if all parties were abstaining (ie; the hubby wasn't out getting prostitutes), it would be a non-issue.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 14, 2006 04:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree!

Unfortunately that is not what's happening today.

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ScotScorp
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posted August 16, 2006 05:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks DD!

In this world, abstinence is NOT the answer. It's a lovely thought, but not realistic.

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posted August 16, 2006 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think abstinence and fidelity should be one of many approaches to stopping the spread of AIDS, including making condoms affordable and availble, removing any stigmas associated with the use or purchase of condoms, along with research of a cure/innoculation against it instead of treatment for it, which seems to be where the current pharmaceutical focus is. There's more money to be made in treating diseases than curing them unfortunately

But there will always be something. I personally believe that humans and/or the scientific community are delusional if they think they can ever eliminate all microbial life that is threatening humans. IMO, the key is in lifestyles/culture encouraging behavoir that limits one's exposure/likeliness of getting disease, such as eating right, cleanliness, and even yes, abstinence and fidelity.

To me, the abstinence/AIDS argument can be analgous to smoking. Most people would argue that because smoking leads to Lung Cancer, the best way to avoid lung cancer is not to smoke. I don't understand why, when one is talking about the cause and effect of promiscuity/prostitutes and AIDS, that abstinence by some is thrown out the window. Abstinence from smoking is one of the obvious remedies to getting not lung cancer, so we advocate not smoking...to the same degree, one is considerably less likely to get AIDS if they don't have sex at all or have sex only with one partner who is also not having sex with a million other people - yet absintence is always thrown out as being unrealistic. However, expecting abstinence when it comes to smoking is not. Nor is abstinence from eating yourself into heart disease, or one of a number of other illnesses that have an obvious causal relationship to not exercising self control.

Again, don't get me wrong, I support a multi-pronged approach to stemming the tide of Aids globally, but I just don't think abstinence should be rejected outright because it's viewed by some as "unrealistic".

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pidaua
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posted August 16, 2006 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it is me, but I think Gates may be missing a crucial point about the program.

A - Abstinence: If someone can hold out, they should unless they know the person is negative. This does NOT apply to married people. Being abstinent while married is ludicrious. If someone cannot hold out.. then look at option C

B - Be Faithful: If you are in a relationshp DO NOT CHEAT on your spouse.. if you must cheat choose Option C

C- Use a Condom.

It doesn't say one must be asexual to prevent contracting HIV. I don't believe that programs the preach 100% abstinence are appropriate, but this one seems to encompass all possibilities.

I have no yeah or nay vote as this is the first time I heard about it nor do I push any belief system regarding it.

In parts of this Country we have a hard time getting various populations to use condoms. Many infected people and people in at risk populations feel that since there are drugs available that extend the life of a person with HIV, then they are at risk of nothing more life threatening that diabetes.

Both lead to death- just at a slower rate.

I understand it is vastly different for people in disadvantaged areas and people from impoverished countries. Add to that the cases of rape from older men that think raping a virgin will cure aids and sex workers not using condoms and the rate of infection and death keeps climbing.

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ScotScorp
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posted August 21, 2006 07:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately, in Africa, abstinence is not a workable situation. There's a real lack of sex education, and even in areas with the knowledge, getting ahold of birth control, especially condoms, is difficult. Also, according to my sis-in-law (A Kenyan) and her friends (from different nations of Africa), women in many places in Africa are still treated like 2nd class citizens by some men.

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