posted September 10, 2006 10:43 PM            

American's weren't the only ones that died in the Towers, at the Pentagon or on the Planes. We lost many nationalities from all over the world. Men, Women and Children perished.

I think Randall may close the site down tomorrow- usually on this anniversary and the the anniversary of the death of Linda Goodman results in a day of memory.

In any case - I wanted to have something less controversial, less political and something to just say that...

We will always remember this day.

We will always remember those that died on September 11, 2001.

And we will always remember the brave Police officers, Fire Fighters, Soldier's and Civilians that gaves their lives trying to save others in the burning Towers and Pentagon, that brought down two planes before they could hit two more targets and those that are now fighting overseas.

posted September 12, 2006 10:18 AM              

and on a day such as this..Linda Goodman..would certainly want the site open..so people could talk to one another..and heal the wounds..that have been re-opened..by the public!

posted September 12, 2006 04:39 PM              

And their families find the strength to carry on....

posted September 12, 2006 05:32 PM              

including...

....those who were in the WTC, those that risked their lives trying to save them, and their families.

...and all those innocent lives lost AND that continue to be lost because of the false war on terror in Afghanistan and Iraq.

posted September 12, 2006 08:20 PM            

Thank you for using the tragedy that occurred here in the United States to voice your opinions of the war. Thank you for showing your true colors, your callous insensitivity and disrespect for this Country and the innocent victims for your own selfish ideology.

posted September 12, 2006 08:25 PM            

Too often people forget- they try to bury their heads in the sand and then we end up seeing another USS Cole bombing or 9-11 attack.

Many of us cannot watch the films, the faces of those that died without crying or feeling like we need to flee the room.

Death is not pretty.

Terrorism is not pretty.

posted September 12, 2006 08:31 PM              

It's the Media I don't appreciate, and I do understand..but that does not mean I have to like it! Just my onion. ...

posted September 12, 2006 11:43 PM              

Why do you feel it necessary to come down so god-awful hard on DayDreamer?

She didn't say anything to warrant your harsh words toward her....

Along with the 9/11 victims and their families she was also remembering the innocent lives lost in the war on terror...

Then you come marching in like the "true patriot" and charging her with...being callous, insensitive, and being disrespectful to this country...and worst of all charged her with being disrespectful of the innocent victims of her own selfish idealogy! which clearly says you're calling her a terrorist!

Uncalled for Pid! Even by you!

She is none of the things of which you accused her!

Then you go on to say to her...

quote:

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Maybe next time you could use your voice to open your own thread about the war instead of being a troll to a tribute such as this- which MANY of use American's hold sacred as well as those from other Countries.

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She didn't deserve your harshness...

posted September 13, 2006 01:25 AM              

You are most welcome.

The "war on terror" our governments like to call it appears to be a result of the tragedy that happened on Sept 11.

So I will show my sympathies for all the victims, including not only the thousands of lives destroyed by the WTC attacks, but also the hundreds of thousands of lives destroyed of those who are not terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq since the start of these "wars on terror"...Unfortunately they do not have a day of mourning.

posted September 13, 2006 12:16 PM            

Once again you ugly bitter woman, you only proved just how vile you are. Go back to your cauldren and try another brew because what your using now hasn't worked in the intelligence department.

As for DayDreamer,

You are an evil woman full of hate. You have the nerve to pull a stunt like racism and then use our tragedy to further your hate of this Country and the war. God help those poor students that you teach because if you are as lack in the math and science department as you are with ethics and debate- those kids will be lucky to use the phrase "would you like fries with that?"

posted September 13, 2006 01:24 PM            

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They were just as precious, and just as wrongfully targeted...SG

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The United States has not "targeted" civilians in either Afghanistan or Iraq and you know it.

The people who are deliberately targeting civilians in both Afghanistan and Iraq are Islamic terrorists.

posted September 13, 2006 01:37 PM              

As for your other comment, where you said you had called me out , I was in Egypt the entire summer, and do not even remember what thread you're referring to, so if you post the link I would take a look. A lot of times I dont remember what thread Ive posted in coz a lot of them have similar names, and then Im only on this forum every now and then. However, my comment about Iraq needing a strong man was in relations to a leader that could lead the people in the right direction and stand up to international influence; instead of implying that the Iraqi people are undisciplined or corrupt, I meant to imply that they are themselves very intelligent and strong, so the man who represents them (be he in any title), should reflect the nation's spirit and personality of intelligence, a long history of learning (Baghdad was the center of Islamic learning and the beacon of education), and strength against all odds, because any nation's ruler should be representative of the people.

Love
SG

posted September 13, 2006 01:57 PM            

That's the Islamic terrorists who load cars and trucks with explosives and set them off in civilian market places.

That's the Islamic terrorists who strapped explosives on one of their brainwashed minions who set it off amongst kids who were being given candy by members of the United States military.

That's the Islamic terrorists who bomb mosques full of civilians to spark off a civil war in Iraq.

That's the Islamic terrorists who store explosives, IEDs, mortar rounds and RPGs in civilian homes and fire at coalition forces knowing the US will fire back or bomb the hell out of the home and set them off...which not only destroys the home but also destroys or damages the homes on either side of the intended target.

Now SG, I have no intention of engaging you on this issue: If the US was not in Iraq, there wouldn't be any civilian casualties.

The reason I'm not hearing any of that bullsh*t is that Saddam managed to kill close to a million Iraqi civilians during his 30 year reign of terror...and I'm not talking about war casualties resulting from the Iraq/Iran war or the invasion of Kuwait. I'm talking about Iraq civilians.

You were here when I responded to your "strongman" statement SG. You were not off the planet or otherwise occupied when I responded within an hour or so of your comment.

posted September 13, 2006 03:40 PM            

Saddam's latest outburst -

He threatened to "crush the heads" of his accusers and raged against "the agents of Iran and Zionism".

Saddam trial prosecutor demands judge quit


Sep 13, 6:59 AM (ET)

By Ibon Villelabeitia

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The lead prosecutor in Saddam Hussein's genocide trial demanded on Wednesday that the chief judge resign for being too soft on the former Iraqi leader, who has threatened to "crush the heads" of his accusers.

"The defendants have gone too far with unacceptable expressions and words. The defendants have uttered clear threats. The chief prosecutor's office requests the judge step down from this case," Munqith al-Faroon said, adding the court had become a "political forum" for Saddam and six co-accused.

Dismissing the request, chief judge Abdullah al-Amiri defended his approach to Saddam's trial for genocide against the Kurds by recalling how a successor to the Prophet Mohammad allowed the accused to voice their opinions.

He also cited his 25 years of experience.

"The judge should coordinate and make peace so nobody takes advantage of his fairness," he replied before calling out the first witnesses in the third hearing this week.

On Tuesday, Saddam raged against "agents of Iran and Zionism" after civil attorneys said Kurdish rebels were fighting against his "dictatorship and tyranny."

Faroon threatened to walk out of Tuesday's session after he was repeatedly denied permission to speak. That session also saw Saddam calling "coward" a witness who had taunted the toppled leader for being "in a cage."

Saddam was uncharacteristically quiet on Wednesday and followed the proceedings clutching a Koran.

Amiri, keen to push the trial forward, has largely avoided confrontations with the defendants and their lawyers in a bid to avoid the delays seen in the first Saddam trial, in which the toppled leader frequently used the televised sessions to slam the U.S. occupation and to urge his followers to revolt.

Saddam, 69, his cousin, Ali Hassan al-Majeed, known as "Chemical Ali," and five other former commanders also face charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity for their role in the 1988 Anfal campaign -- Spoils of War -- that prosecutors said left 182,000 ethnic Kurds dead or missing.

Stopping short of demanding the judge's resignation, a civil attorney whose name has been kept secret to avoid retaliation, said on Wednesday that Saddam's words "injured the victims of Anfal."

Saddam has defended his policy of crushing Kurdish rebels in the 1980s as his Sunni-led government fought a war against Shi'ite Iran.

Former Kurdish peshmerga fighter Omer Othmam Mahommed, one of the witnesses who testified on Wednesday, told the court how warplanes bombed his village and surrounding mountains with chemical weapons in March of 1988.

"I saw some 2,000 to 3,000 sheep dead. The shepherd also died in the attack," he said.

A verdict is expected next month on whether Saddam is guilty of crimes against humanity over the killing of 148 Shi'ite men following a 1982 assassination attempt against him.

posted September 13, 2006 04:00 PM              

when your america's b-tch, you can get away with murder...literally...

and another thing, for all the people who like to use the kurdish murders as an example for going to war, i have 1 thing to say, this isnt a good enough reason for war, this is a BS reason considering so many allies have killed/murdered/etc and have been okay in the US's book coz they kiss our a--es.

we also have people saying he KILLED SO MANY IRAQIS, um....like we did during the US Sanctions?

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