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sue g
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posted September 17, 2006 08:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lengthy but worth a listen....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7143212690219513043&hl=en-CA http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-999558027849894376&hl=en-CA http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1162851149755261569&hl=en-CA

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jwhop
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posted September 17, 2006 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Complete and total bullsh*t from...a demolition hobbyist.

Who will the conspiracy theorists trot out next to put forth their brain dead WTC conspiracy....the American Association of Hairdressers? The Plumbers Union of Concerned Citizens?

Architects, engineers, chemists and metallurgists in large numbers have already debunked the brain dead morons who continue to spout the nonsense the WTC attack was an inside job.

The question that is fatal to brain dead morons who continue to spout this nonsense is WHY the Bush administration would stand idly by or actually participate in the demolition of the WTC and Pentagon.

When the kooks can answer that question logically and rationally, I'll be all ears.

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sue g
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posted September 17, 2006 11:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehe.....funny....

Thanks for your contribution Jwhop.....we are all entitled to our opinions no matter how extreme or logical, and I loved the bit about the hairdressers...

Love your tongue in cheek approach...very nice sir!!

Oh yeah...btw...did you actually watch the whole 90 minute video?

I know plenty of people who know it was an inside job, how couldn't it have been, anyone with half a brain knows an aircraft couldnt to that much damage to a building of that size.

It doesnt make them morons.....less of the name calling hey? Its very unbecoming and quite offensive, and of course unnecessary

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sue g
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posted September 17, 2006 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

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geminstone
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posted September 17, 2006 11:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You, Sue! I'm glad you raised that question too... Many have probably wondered the same.
Thanks, again, for the video links.

~ geminstone

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sue g
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posted September 17, 2006 11:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome gem....

I am sure more truths will be revealed in time.....I am just glad to keep an open mind about everything at this point in my life.....

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lioneye68
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posted September 17, 2006 12:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/911truth.html
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/911truth2.html

Check this out - Good to know....

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lotusheartone
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posted September 17, 2006 12:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again..the U.S. Government..had nothing to do with 9/11. ...

there is a bigger world-wide picture... .

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sue g
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posted September 17, 2006 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lotus

I know you are a good channeller of messages. What does your source say happened. I just feel that there is more to it than meets the eye....inside job,but not sure who are the criminals here.....?

I wouldnt rule out the US being guilty, but then again I wouldnt sit in judgement either....I feel we shall have more answers coming in the next year or so..

What do you think?

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lotusheartone
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posted September 17, 2006 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sue..

we are going to have to realize..there are other Worlds and Universes..and we have been
mixed together..by this time..intergrated..
but some of these races..still want supremecy
..power..greed ego driven. ...

Universal codes has a few topics about this..
half is true..half is false..for the polarities must exist..
but we must harmonize..

I want all to understand..to lend a hand..all
united under the One and Only God..of ALL
for we are all brothers and sisters..
Created by God... .

or with disruption..change will be forced..
either way is very hard work..
let's take the high road..
meet at the CrossRoad
and meet from point A to point B
and C trinity

the Divine within each and everyOne of US...

I do not have all the answers by far..
but I have a big picture..
that the Order..wants dominance

we must unite in LOve and Light
VIOLET=LOVE EVIL

by LOving one another as family..as we most certainly are by NOW..we can overcome..and
evil..or bad things..
it's simply up to each and everyOne of US
to make the choice
to do the right thing!

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sue g
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posted September 17, 2006 01:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I understand what your sentiment is, but I was wondering a little more on the conspiracy thing........

Like...who, how, etc....

But thanks anyway. I would be very interested to speak to a group of psychics to see what their take is on it.

I know a very good woman here,,,,she gets names and places and stuff..I may ask her what she feels about it...

Thanks Lotus....

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lotusheartone
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posted September 17, 2006 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would not advise putting names or places out there..I do have that information within..where it needs to stay for now, til the alotted time..

partners must meet..people must follow their heart..and start their great work...

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lotusheartone
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posted September 17, 2006 01:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our conversations are altering things..for the better

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lotusheartone
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posted September 17, 2006 01:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forget to say..we all have the answers within. ...

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sue g
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posted September 17, 2006 01:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks....

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Isis
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posted September 17, 2006 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From a thread I posted on the subject: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/002627.html

9/11: Debunking The Myths

A great article from Popular Mechanics Magazine

"PM examines the evidence and consults the experts to refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11."


Three and a half years later, not everyone is convinced we know the truth. Go to Google.com, type in the search phrase "World Trade Center conspiracy" and you'll get links to an estimated 628,000 Web sites. More than 3000 books on 9/11 have been published; many of them reject the official consensus that hijackers associated with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda flew passenger planes into U.S. landmarks.

Healthy skepticism, it seems, has curdled into paranoia. Wild conspiracy tales are peddled daily on the Internet, talk radio and in other media. Blurry photos, quotes taken out of context and sketchy eyewitness accounts have inspired a slew of elaborate theories: The Pentagon was struck by a missile; the World Trade Center was razed by demolition-style bombs; Flight 93 was shot down by a mysterious white jet. As outlandish as these claims may sound, they are increasingly accepted abroad and among extremists here in the United States. read more

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and
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posted September 17, 2006 03:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
throughout the years different theories have came and gone, and i still till this day dont really feel like i know what happened....some ideas i have, but not solid enough for me to stand behind them

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"

"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation"

-Khalil Gibran

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sue g
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posted September 17, 2006 03:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And luckily I am open minded enough to believe that anything is possible.....

Isnt it?

And whatever happened, and whoever performed those acts of violation, the truth will out in the end....I believe it always does....!

God bless America and the rest of the world....may we one day reach an understanding....

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Isis
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posted September 17, 2006 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed it is always good to maintain an open mind.

I think just about any conspiracy theory is possible, inasmuch as anything is possible. But likely? That's where my inner cynic steps in.

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sue g
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posted September 17, 2006 03:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just cannot imagine how it feels to be living in a place like New York and living through that horrific experience.

The nearest I got to anything remotely like that was the Birmingham pub bombings duing the 70s...it was bloody terrifying...

And now I live in rural Ireland, so safe no need to lock doors or live in fear of attacks or robbery....

I feel so so lucky and grateful to God for giving me a place like this to live in.

I came to NYC in the 80s and found the place to be totally exciting, a great vibe and loved the buzz of the city....but I dont think I could live there....

And I can only begin to imagine the catastrophic effect this atrocity had on her people...

I am so sorry for everyone that was affected by that mindless attack....so sorry indeed...


to all

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geminstone
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posted September 17, 2006 04:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed... That was definitely a MOST pointless waste of time...

...it is good to know, or at the very least, to have better insight ... when the effort has truely been made. Oh but, that's right,... in paranoid frenzie too much info has been available...less is more...Riiiight!

I guess it's not a total waste though. It makes for a good look at how, very much, they put into defending their theory...with less intelligence.
It is important to view ALL sides. It is helpful too, to do so with a somewhat open mind... Obviously, the point made about... oh what was it?... Oh yes! B!tchwh@res... right... the point was about the "B!tchwh@res" seeing 'Loose Change' and then, instead of going against every "retarded" part of their being to find the "simple incompetence" of the events, ( to which it may be of some importance NOONE has been held accountable .. )... instead those "Liars" just fall to their "retard" ways, and run to assemble All their "B!tchwh@re" friends to then spew forth,( while watching the 'Loose Change' a55holes as THE complete, total and ONLY evidence), all the filthy, "complicated conspiracy" lies... they do all this in true "retard" fashion... and the point being made was about NOT seeking more information.
It looks to me like they are only speaking of the way that THEY conduct themselves...
Weak.

No. I digress. That was a complete WAStE...in every way possible.
Then again,...
Later.

~ geminstone

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jwhop
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posted September 17, 2006 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well all you conspiracy theorists:

Why did Bush stand by and let the WTC and Pentagon be bombed...Or in the alternative....Why did Bush engage in the bombing of the WTC and Pentagon?

There must be a reason, a motivation but for some reason, leftists are silent on the motive...they just know it's true...in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.

Before someone jumps in and makes a fool out of themselves, let me remind you that Bush didn't need a direct attack on the United States to go after al-Qaeda and the Taliban who gave them sanctuary.

Bin Laden was an unindicted co-conspirator in the WTC attack of 1993 and bin Laden and al-Qaeda were responsible for attacks on 2 American embassies in Africa and the attack on the USS Cole...attacking the United States all during the 1990's. Bush didn't need any further reason to go after them.

Bush also didn't need any further reason to go after Saddam Hussein. Saddam was in violation of 16 UN Security Council Resolutions regarding the ceasefire agreement he signed in 1991. Further, Saddam had his military firing missiles at US military aircraft in the Iraq no fly zone...an almost daily occurrence. So Bush didn't need any further excuse to go after Saddam Hussein either.

So conspiracy theorists, if you believe Bush was either the author of the 9/11 attacks or knew in advance and stood the Air Force, NORAD and the air traffic controllers down so the attack could proceed....then what the hell was the motivation?

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Mirandee
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posted September 17, 2006 08:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason was that it was the Pearl Harbor they needed to set their fascist agenda for the U.S. into motion, Jwhop. Pretty obvious. And they followed a plan called the Northwoods Documents drawn up by a group of disgruntled conservative generals in the 1960's to create an incident that would get the American people behind an invasion of Cuba. A plan that John Kennedy turned down.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 17, 2006 08:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is not what it appears to be..for there is bad alien influence..there is good heaven and earth influence..and there is good and bad in all... .

honestly..I can't say this enough
go within..and find your Truth..
Only you can do your work..
and your questions will be answered..
you must really want Peace and LOve
and to KNOW. ...

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jwhop
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posted September 17, 2006 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Total bull.

Bush needed no further reasons to go after the Taliban, al-Qaeda or Saddam. Bush didn't need any attack on the US to justify going to war against all of them.

In fact, there was an intelligence/military plan of action which hit his desk in the first week in August, 2001 to go after bin Laden/al-Qaeda.

Just more blithering blather from the leftist set who know they're lying through their teeth.

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