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SecretGardenAgain
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posted September 19, 2006 08:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just read this, real saddening. I know three couples personally in which the husband has been deported without just cause (in the States)--well Ill take that back, one had outstayed his visa (but he wasn't a terrorist. he is in dubai now and says he was taken to israel and kept in prison for a year).

Its as unjust as the journalist abductions the abu ghraib prisoners...the nun shot in somalia. The violence in darfur. sometimes world affairs are just so overwhelming in an intellectual sense, if you look at all the injustices occuring, and no atonement for them at all...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14897315/?GT1=8506

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DayDreamer
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posted September 19, 2006 08:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't imagine the horror Maher Arar and people like him went through. At the very least he has his name cleared here because his story has been very public.

When Im overwhelmed by all the injustices happening in the world, I try not to go into the details...it's very depressing.

The nun who was shot in Somalia said she forgave her killers?!?!? Her bodyguard also died. The motives are still uncertain.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IRIN/b80e0af02361cc908e38242cb26b6ce7.htm
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L18806054.htm

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DayDreamer
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posted September 29, 2006 01:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maher Arar: Timeline

CBC News Online | September 28, 2006


http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/arar/index.html

Contrite RCMP chief apologizes to Arar family http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=35c1b843-056b-4b73-8afb-6a28539af015&k=44417


RCMP provided wrong data on Arar, inquiry finds http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060918/mahar_arar_report_060918/20060918?hub=CTVNewsAt11


Arar case reflects racial profiling, conference told http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=be11282e-806b-469c-8fb8-7313567dbef7&k=26291

Arar's torture 'not an isolated case', U of A audience told http://www.expressnews.ualberta.ca/article.cfm?id=5525

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pidaua
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posted September 29, 2006 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have rules in this Country for a reason. Abide by them or suffer the consequences.


***** Edited to add-

Deporting someone that is here illegally (such as in the case of overstaying a Visa) is NOT equivalent to SHOOTING A NUN!

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The democratic world believes that it is not the terrorists that are to blame, but us. Us, the westerners.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the sooner you eliminate this misconception from your minds, the better.
We are NOT to blame. It is the freaking terrorists and the freaking terrorists only!!!! They are the bad guys. They do not understand concepts like peace, democracy, and respect for human life. They are, pure and simPle, EVIL!!!!! Behind all their political manipulations, if you carefully look at the actions of these MONSTERS, they are EVIL!!

http://www.mideastweb.org/log/archives/00000489.htm

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DayDreamer
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posted September 29, 2006 06:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mahar Arar was/is a Canadian citizen.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/arar/index.html


He isnt even asking for the commissioner to resign. This man deserves huge compensation!!


Arar thanks Zaccardelli for RCMP apology http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060929.wara29/BNStory/National/home

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DayDreamer
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posted December 06, 2006 06:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mounties' top cop resigns
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=708c79fb-997c-49fa-afac-f96a1337f90c

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 06, 2006 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Dulce Luna
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posted December 06, 2006 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They damn well better compensate this man. He is a Canadian citizen who had no ties to terrorists. This country disgusts me sometimes

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DayDreamer
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posted December 06, 2006 09:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope so too DL...Are you in Canada too?

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Dulce Luna
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posted December 06, 2006 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, the US. That is where he got deported from, right? Or did I read that wrong?

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DayDreamer
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posted December 06, 2006 10:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was in vacationing in Tunisia when US officials detained and then deported him to and incarcerated him in Syria.

I didnt think you were...if I remember correctly I you said you were from ny, rhode island??

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Dulce Luna
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posted December 06, 2006 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am from Rhode Island. I lived in NY from the time I got here as an immigrant until I was 5 yrs of age.


And this happened in Tunisia? My God....gives me the creeps. Where else can they go and pick you up like that? Ughhhh

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DayDreamer
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posted December 17, 2006 08:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arar still on U.S. watch list: U.S. ambassador

December 15, 2006 - CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/12/15/arar-watchlist.html

Despite being exonerated by a federal inquiry, Maher Arar remains on a U.S. government watch list, says the U.S. ambassador to Canada.

In an interview with CBC Radio's The House, Ambassador David Wilkins confirmed Arar remains on the American border lookout system.

"My information is that he is on the watch list and has been since he was deported, yes," he said.

Four years ago, the RCMP mistakenly labelled Arar as an Islamic extremist and asked Washington to place a lookout for Arar. The former Ottawa engineer was detained at a New York airport in late 2002 and deported to Syria, where he spent a year being tortured in a prison.

The RCMP has since apologized for its mistake and its commissioner, Giuliano Zaccardelli resigned after telling a commons committee he gave incorrect information during earlier testimony.

Late last week, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day said he didn't know whether Arar was still on the American watch list, telling a Commons committee he had recently posed the question to U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
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"Their response was — I'm not saying I was totally satisfied with it — that because it was a matter of privacy that if Mr. Arar or perhaps his lawyers would contact the State Department, they can find that out," said Day.

Wilkins wouldn't comment further because Arar is suing the U.S. government.

A spokesperson for Day said the minister has written Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff requesting the U.S. remove Arar from its watch list.

But a lawyer for Arar in the U.S. says Canadian officials should do more.

"The excuse being that Canada understands that the U.S. won't accept pressure to take someone off their watch list," said Maria LaHood.

"I mean, I would hope that the Canadian government would put pressure on the U.S. because I don't know what's going to make a difference."

As for Arar's lawsuit in the U.S., a district court dismissed it last February. But LaHood filed new information, including the final report of Arar Inquiry with the second circuit court of appeal this week.

Arar has filed a lawsuit against officials from the RCMP, CSIS, Foreign Affairs and others in senior government positions for their alleged role in his deportation and detention in Syria, said Falconer.

The lawsuit seeks $37 million in compensation for extraordinary injury to Arar and his family.

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