posted November 11, 2006 02:20 PM            

Never mind, they can all kiss my "I love the US troops" ass.

Notice in this AP story there isn't a word of praise for the US military by the AP, not even a well done, nothing whatsoever to show appreciation of our veterans or those protecting America by risking their lives far away from home.

Rather, there's a lot of verbiage dedicated to telling a story about all the trouble in Iraq, blah, blah, blah, the resignation of Rumsfeld...blah, blah, blah, the democrats plan to be tough and smart, blah, blah, blah,...the reflexive democrat strategy to cut and run.

Up yours AP and all the rest of the un-American, unpatriotic American press. Those of you who helped terrorist enemies escape detection by revealing secret intelligence information on your front pages.

You can pucker up too.

To our incomparable military and veterans of all the wars...WELL DONE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE FOR AMERICA AND YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

Bush Hails Bravery, Dedication of Troops
NewsMax.com Wires
Saturday, Nov. 11, 2006

ARLINGTON, Va. -- President Bush marked Veterans Day by praising U.S. troops who have fought oppression around the world, yet spoke only briefly about Iraq, where U.S. commanders are re-evaluating strategy.

Speaking three days after announcing the ouster of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Bush hailed members of the armed services - past, present and future - for their dedication and bravery.

"They confront grave danger to defend the safety of the American people. They brought down tyrants. They've liberated two nations. They have helped bring freedom to more than 50 million people. Through their sacrifice, they're making this nation safer and more secure, and they are earning the proud title of veteran," Bush said in a speech Saturday at Arlington National Cemetery.

Bush did not reference Iraq and Afghanistan by name, though he did say, "From Valley Forge to Vietnam, from Kuwait to Kandahar, from Berlin to Baghdad, our veterans have borne the costs of America's wars, and they have stood watch over America's peace."

Minutes before his remarks, the president laid a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknowns and held his hand over his heart as a bugler played "Taps." Cannons fired a 21-gun salute and soldiers holding rifles stood at attention as Bush's motorcade made its way through the cemetery on a sunny fall morning.

In Iraq on Saturday, two car bombs exploded in a shopping district in Baghdad, killing eight people. A Slovak and Polish soldier were reported killed overnight by a roadside bomb south of the capital. The U.S. offered $50,000 for information leading to the recovery of a kidnapped American soldier.

At least 2,845 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. In addition, at least 288 members of the U.S. military have been killed in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan as a result of the U.S. invasion in late 2001 to oust the Taliban government for hosting Osama bin Laden.

Bush said that since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, "our armed forces have engaged the enemy, the terrorists on many fronts. At this moment more than 1.4 million Americans are on active duty, serving in the cause of freedom and peace around the world. They are our nation's finest citizens."

In his radio address Saturday, broadcast before his visit to the cemetery, Bush said America's enemies should not read this past week's ground-shaking election results as a sign of U.S. weakness. During the campaign, he had contended that Democrats would undermine national security.

With two years remaining in his presidency, Bush is trying to keep the nation focused on the global fight against terrorism and prevent a pullout of U.S. forces from Iraq before victory is achieved.

"The elections will bring changes to Washington," Bush said. "But one thing has not changed: America faces brutal enemies who have attacked us before and want to attack us again.

"I have a message for these enemies: Do not confuse the workings of American democracy with a lack of American will," the president said. "Our nation is committed to bringing you to justice, and we will prevail."

The victorious Democrats read the elections as a demand for change in Iraq. Delivering the party's weekly radio address, Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean said, "Americans across the country made it clear that they want a new direction in Iraq and in the war on terror."

Though Democrats have not coalesced around one alternative strategy, Dean promised they will be "tough and smart."

"We will listen to the military, take their advice, and ensure that our troops and agencies have the tools and equipment they need to defend our freedom," he said.

Bush is meeting on Monday with members of the Iraq Study Group, a blue-ribbon commission trying to come up with a new way forward in Iraq.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/11/11/124618.shtml?s=lh

posted November 11, 2006 02:28 PM            

Pusey - his friends call him "Ernie" - wasn't feeling too talkative but seemed to enjoy the hubbub surrounding the awarding of his World War I Victory Medal and a visit from the governor on the day before Veterans Day.

"It looks pretty good, doesn't it?" Bush said, placing the glass-encased medal on the table next to Pusey's recliner.

Pusey is indeed special. He's one of just 15 living World War I veterans - out of nearly 5 million who served - and the only one in Florida. He was in the U.S. Navy from 1917 to 1919 aboard the battleship USS Wyoming, which spent much of the war patrolling the sea lanes around the British Isles. He is the oldest surviving Navy veteran from what was known at the time as the war to end wars.

Today is Veterans Day, a holiday held on Nov. 11, the day the armistice with Germany was signed in 1918, ending World War I. That was 88 years ago today.

Pusey is one of a dozen American survivors of that conflict. They range in age from 105 to 115.

Polk County has no known World War I survivors. The last two were Frank Durbin and Walter Beerman, a Winter Haven resident, served in the Army and fought in several campaigns, including the Battle of Verdun. The French government awarded him the Legion of Honor, its highest military award, in 1998. He died the following year at the age of 103.

Beerman, a Navy veteran, owned a real estate business in Lakeland. He was one of the first machine gun training instructors. He held records for taking apart and reassembling the Lewis Machine Gun blindfolded.

He died in 2001 at the age of 107, two weeks shy of his 108th birthday. He was Polk's last World War I veteran.

Pusey told Bush he doesn't feel too good some days and has trouble getting around, but he remembers his time on that battleship nearly 90 years ago, especially "stopping at different cities out there."

A black-and-white photo of the ship hangs on the wall in his living room near a framed letter of congratulations he received on his birthday in April from President Bush, the governor's older brother.

After the war, Pusey was hired at General Motors in 1926, worked for the company in Flint, Mich., for 32 years and is now its oldest living retiree. He moved to Florida in 1960 and has lived in the same trailer park for more than 40 years.

"The most amazing thing about Ernie is when I see him come home from church, get out of the car and walk in the house by himself," said Jim Johns, who lives across the street. "It tells you something about his soul. The man just glows."

Bush said Pusey didn't recall getting a medal after the war and nobody could find any evidence that he had. So giving it to him for Veteran's Day seemed fitting.

"Ernie Pusey is 111 years old, he is the oldest Floridian, third oldest American, . . . and it's an honor to be able to give him his World War I medal," Bush said.

The first step was actually finding a World War I Victory Medal, since it's not like the U.S. government has them lying around anymore. Rocky McPherson, executive director of the Florida Department of Veterans' Affairs, got on the case and finally tracked one down in a shop in Quantico, Va.

Last year, there were four World War I veterans in Florida, McPherson said, but two have died and one moved to Alabama. So Pusey deserves the fuss.

"I think he's a pretty happy gentleman, and he looks pretty good," McPherson said. "His mind is sharp."

Pusey has a full-time caretaker, and besides going to church he likes stepping out for a scallop dinner every Sunday. He's tried nursing homes a few times, but prefers living in his trailer.

posted November 11, 2006 02:42 PM            

Thank you Veterans!

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

posted November 11, 2006 03:28 PM            

I want to thank all the veterans and active duty men and women who have the courage to serve our country even with such discourse in the US. People dont realize the amazing people that make up our Past, Present, and Furture military.

I want to thank my wonderful husband Bear and his two brothers, one who returned from Iraq for the third time. Thank you to all of our friends who are serving this great country. Please know that most of us understand your potential sacrifice every day that you put on your uniform.

posted November 11, 2006 03:33 PM            

The Soldiers that are put in harms way everyday to continue to protect our right to post here appreciate the love and support they are shown.

posted November 11, 2006 09:13 PM              

Because I am a LIBERAL, the fact that I would like to see everyone who is fighting in the name of MY COUNTRY TOO have the proper equipment to try to give them some level of protection in an unsafe environment.

Of course, I would like to see that the justifications for engaging in war are accurate and based on truth- so the numerous deaths, maimings, and destroyed families are not IN VAIN.

So yes, this evil liberal wants to thank everyone who IS serving, HAS served, and has sacrificed something of themselves for the principles they believe in. It does not go unnoticed, nor unappreciated by me.

Support Our Troops-Bring Them Home-ALive-NOW

MK

posted November 11, 2006 10:40 PM            

I'm with you MK. I support our troops by PROTESTING this war. Soldiers should be used for DIRECT threats against our wonderful country, not imaginary or contrived ones. To exploit the young men and women of this nation for such a greedy cause is a deed that will not go unpunished.

posted November 12, 2006 12:44 PM              

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Gee, I wonder if I'm remiss for posting this on a forum full of people willing and panting to stab the US military in the back?
Never mind, they can all kiss my "I love the US troops" ass.

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Why is it that both you and Pidaua find it necessary to always begin your posts here at GU with an attack, Jwhop? Do you really think that serves any useful purpose to the topic or discussion?

It's a very hostile way of posting that is really only designed to start trouble here at GU. It invites an argument.

It is merely a different point of view of what supporting the troops truly is. One side, your side, seems to feel that working to end the war and bring the troops home and get them out of harms way is somehow not supporting those men and women who serve in our military. You seem to feel that waving the flag at them while they are dying is troop support. But I don't see you joining up, Jwhop ( though there are people your age serving in Iraq ) and you didn't join up during the Viet Nam war either. Neither did Bush & company and you all like smearing the records and the men who did risk their lives in the Viet Nam war. And that is your hypocritical idea of honoring the veterans of the wars, Jwhop.

Why don't you just come out and tell it like it is, Jwhop? Why don't you just say we only support the Republican veterans of wars and the Republican troops? That is the way it truly is with you guys because you attack the Dems that served and risked their lives for their country. You even attack the honor and records of fellow Republicans like McCain if they don't tow the Republican party line and agree with all that you say.

So your troop support like everything else is phoney and hypocritical.

You began your post with an attack that invited a reprisal, Jwhop and you just got what you asked for, a reprisal.

posted November 13, 2006 03:30 PM            

I have served with plenty of Soldiers that have served in quite of few wars. Most of my mentors are veterans of Vietnam and the other recent wars. I am no stranger to war and either is my brother which has been there three times now. I am getting sick of hearing so much talk about 'I dont you joining going there fight'. There is no reason for these type of assinine remarks especially coming from folks that have never been or had no desire to even wear the uniform.

posted November 14, 2006 03:08 AM            

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Without Hitler and as a result Britain's heavy involvement in WWII, quite possibly India/Pak and many other colonized countries would not have gained their Independence as soon as they did. The rest of the world most likely would have been worse off today.

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That has to be one of the most ignorant statements I've heard in a long time. You have got to be joking. The Partition of India alone resulted in the deaths of (estimated at up to) a million people.

That's to say nothing of the millions of Jews that were exterminated. Or the millions allied forces, - Americans, Canadians, Austrailans, New Zealanders, French, Polish, Austrian, Irish, Italian, and Dutch people that died. Did I miss any nationalities out there? I'm sure I did...

And then of course there were all the dead Germans.

Anyway, that's a sick thought...that the death of all those people was an incidentally good thing for Pakistanis. To say nothing of all the deaths during the Partition.

You're welcome. For the death of my countrymen and all the soldiers of all the other countries I named, the ones I forgot, and oh yeah, the millions of dead jews, whose deaths made Pakistan's sustained indepedance possible.

Cause you know what? Pakis wouldn't have been "Aryan" enough for Hitler's liking. It would have only been a matter of time before panzers were rolling down the Khyber Pass.

And if it weren't for the British's heavy involvement in WWII, you'd likely be speaking German right now, or you never would have been born.

posted November 14, 2006 01:04 PM            

"pidaua
Knowflake
Posts: 6013
From: Arizona - Moving to Germany to be with Bear the Leo
Registered: May 2002
posted November 11, 2006 03:28 PM
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Thank you JWHOP I was going to post this but you beat me to it.
I want to thank all the veterans and active duty men and women who have the courage to serve our country even with such discourse in the US. People dont realize the amazing people that make up our Past, Present, and Furture military.

I want to thank my wonderful husband Bear and his two brothers, one who returned from Iraq for the third time. Thank you to all of our friends who are serving this great country. Please know that most of us understand your potential sacrifice every day that you put on your uniform.

Thank you to all the Soldiers who paid the ultimate sacrifice our prayers are with your families for they have been left behind.
HAPPY VETERAN'S DAY!!!"

Petron,

Bear has been in the US Army for 13 years. He spent most of his career as an Airborne paratrooper - do the math and think of what conflicts and wars we've had in the past 13 years.. I think you are intelligent enough to determine where he may have served. Some things he won't talk about- I am sure it has something to do with his clearance and what he does now. Suffice it to say, it isn't about a p1ssing contest, he's been there, done that and may have to do it again.

Hmmm..... it seems that there are many Liberals here that feel unless you are currently in Iraq or you have lost a spouse or child in Iraq, you cannot talk about it. All the other conflicts and veterans of past warfare are treated like insignificant pieces of crap.

Mirandee keeps talking about polls and who has served where or who has family serving.. maybe we should take a poll here of knowflakes. Who is currently serving, who has served, who has family that has served.... etc... It's absurd, but is also seems like the only way to get it out on the open. Then maybe people will be treated people with respect based on their Military connections verses the BS perpetrated by Mirandee with her 'so what, it doesn't count since Bear is NOT in Iraq right now".

BS....

DayDreamer - you are wicked and completely offbase.

"Without Hitler and as a result Britain's heavy involvement in WWII, quite possibly India/Pak and many other colonized countries would not have gained their Independence as soon as they did. The rest of the world most likely would have been worse off today."

posted November 14, 2006 03:37 PM            

pidaua
Knowflake
Posts: 6027
From: Arizona - Moving to Germany to be with Bear the Leo
Registered: May 2002
posted November 14, 2006 03:25 PM
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Sunday I had the honor of attending Pat Tillman's dedication ceremony at the Arizona Cardinal Stadium in Glendale. I was ecstatic to attend the Cowboy's game, but it made it sweeter to be able to attend the ceremony.
It began with the Honor guard marching out a large US Flag, clips of Tillman's interviews, pictures in Iraq and everyday football / life pictures flashed across the big screen. His wife left us a message with her support for what her husband did in Iraq, for what we are doing in Iraq and how she admires those that serve our Country. She thanks the Arizona Cardinals for the beautiful bronze statue of her late Husband.

When the pictures of Tillman and his fellow Soldiers were displayed on the screen, the whole stadium erupted in Cheers and Applause.

There was not one disparging word from the family.

I hope this pic comes through, I took it at the ceremony...

Sorry...I can't seem to get it to post- you'll have to follow the link.

http://groups.msn.com/LindalandPhotoShop/pidauaspics.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2010

posted November 14, 2006 04:21 PM            

With each utterance out of leftist mouths, I realize they despise the US military and anyone who supports the troops.

All the drivel of troops support..by bringing them home is just that..drivel and a cover for their main enemy, the United States who they hope will lose the war...make that any war in which the US is involved.

posted November 14, 2006 04:43 PM            

I have found that most liberals say they support the troops, only when one dies. Then they parade them around, like some sick puppet, and scream "see.... war is bad... we love our troops and you are killing them". Sometimes it feels as though they cannot wait for the news to emerge describing more dead troops. The loudest and most shrill complainers are the ones that also attack our Military in general and they can't say a damn good word about a Veteran, Soldier or even a 9-11 tribute without defiling it with some propaganda anti-American sentiment.

posted November 14, 2006 05:39 PM              

ummm yeah.....suuuuure.....

posted November 14, 2006 06:08 PM            

I understand you like to be somewhat tongue in cheek. I have my husband's Airborne class picture hanging in my house. I also have several pics of him in planes, jumping as well as getting ready to jump and lined up with several Soldiers. I doubt he would be able to fake the rank and pins that he wears on his ACU's- especially his hard earned Airborne and Air Assault wings. ( I carry several of his Unit pins on my purse as well as a set of his wings. Bear served in my father's old unit when he (my father)was in Vietnam - 173rd which is now based in Italy. Please don't confuse that with me saying that Bear served in Vietnam with my dad. LOL...http://www.173rdairborne.com/menuitaly.htm

Bear was also the only American to make it through the NATO SERE survival, evasion, resistance, and escape school in Europe, which is a hell of a lot more difficult than the one here in the states.

No one said crap about secret black ops. As I said, Bear won't say much about his background to many people- he isn't that kind of person - he's humble and modest mainly because he is quite accomplished. I know his clearance, I know his rank and I also know what he does in his position. I do know that he can be mobilized at a moments notice and I won't know more than "Hey honey, I'll be back in a few weeks". You have the same attitude that I encountered when a few people first found out my father was an undercover Narcotics agent that just so happened to be the top Heroin agent in the states.

Maybe it is intimidating- maybe this is your way of wanting to push Bear to anger so that he will divulge his MOS, not that I believe that is a secret. He has already told you he is Military Intelligence, so you do the homework.

But hey, leave it to someone of your ilk to try and discredit somehow that has more salad on his dress greens than most people his age. He is modest and won't brag about his achievements, but I will- but without giving away certain aspects. All of what he has told me has been corroborated by his Military Record (unless the Army is ALSO lying about his rank, awards and achievements).

Sometimes posts like this are sad. Any time someone we don't like achieves something important, others want to bust them down and denegrate their reputations. When it comes to my husband I get even more irate, yet he just laughs and expects people like petron to say exactly what you said.

posted November 14, 2006 08:53 PM              

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That has to be one of the most ignorant statements I've heard in a long time. You have got to be joking. The Partition of India alone resulted in the deaths of (estimated at up to) a million people

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well youve got to be one of the most ignorant people in GU..scrap that, LL (I almost put you up with lioneye for the title). Sorry to disappoint your petty mind but Im not joking. Do you even know who motivated and created the partition of India? I highly doubt you're capable of understanding history.

Here's another thing you have a hard time comprehending about history:

Hitler was a tyrrant - And without a Hitler, the British would not have invested so much in WWII. They put so much time, money and energy into it that they couldn't control their "colonies" from which they were stealing and exploiting people and resources from (should I go into the detail...nothing like a google search will find) for too long...that includes the **** they stirred in India.

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Cause you know what? Pakis wouldn't have been "Aryan" enough for Hitler's liking. It would have only been a matter of time before panzers were rolling down the Khyber Pass.

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posted November 14, 2006 11:01 PM              

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DayDreamer - you are wicked and completely offbase.

"Without Hitler and as a result Britain's heavy involvement in WWII, quite possibly India/Pak and many other colonized countries would not have gained their Independence as soon as they did. The rest of the world most likely would have been worse off today."

Your quote demonstrates an ignorance only rivaled by the Geriatric duo

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(Actually I do - I dont bother reading most of your posts cuz they're baseless insults like this one...I just so happened to see my name the second time around)

Pid you are dumb as a doorknob too!