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DayDreamer
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posted November 14, 2006 10:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rumsfeld faces lawsuit for alleged war crimes in Iraq

Times Online November 14, 2006

From Roger Boyes in Berlin


Janis Karpinski, the former commander of Abu Ghraib prison, speaks at a press conference of the Centre for Constitutional Rights in Berlin (Johannes Eisele/EPA)


The former head of Abu Ghraib jail today gave a graphic account of conditions in the US detention centre as part of an attempt to put Donald Rumsfeld in the dock for allegedly aiding and abetting war crimes in Iraq.

Mr Rumsfeld has become a prime target for international human rights activists since resigning last week from his post as defence secretary - his immunity from prosecution will soon lapse and, under German law, a non-German can be prosecuted for war crimes committed outside Germany.



The 300-page case for a criminal prosecution of the controversial US politician was presented today to the German federal prosecutor, Monika Harms, by the American and German lawyers representing 11 former Iraqi detainees of the Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad and one former inmate of the US detention centre in Guantanamo Bay. As a result, Germany is preparing for a major new broadside against US policy in Iraq.

“These crimes were planned and executed at the highest levels of the US government,” said Michael Ratner, president of the Centre for Constitutional Rights, which is leading the campaign for a Rumsfeld prosecution.

The star witness against Mr Rumsfeld is the former governor of Abu Ghraib prison, Janis Karpinski. “When I arrived in 2003, the prison held under 500 Iraqis, but, within a month, after a visit by military intelligence, that number had jumped to 3,000,” said Mrs Karpinski.

“Within a further month, the prison was holding 7,800. There was no release procedure in place and most did not know why they were being held.”

She accused Mr Rumsfeld today of authorising the use of torture at the prison and effectively wresting the jail out of her control.

At a public hearing in Berlin today - to press home the prosecution case against Mr Rumsfeld - the former governor described how a senior military intelligence officer, Major General Geoffrey Miller, took command over the prison. He was, according to the case presented to a public hearing today, acting on the orders of Mr Rumsfeld to secure better and quicker intelligence from captured Iraqis.

“He simply said: ’I order you to hand over Abu Ghraib to me’,” recalled the former governor, who was disciplined and demoted after photographs of prisoner abuse were made public.

“Our testimony gathered from ex-prisoners and ex-military personnel shows that prisoners were beaten senseless during questioning,” said Wolfgang Kaleck, a leading German human rights lawyer who has helped formulate the legal case against Mr Rumsfeld.

“They were subjected to shocks with electric instruments, locked in boxes, hot substances were stuffed in their noses, chairs broken over their backs. They were screamed at, urinated upon and sexually abused.”

The accusations are familiar from the various reports that followed the first exposure of the Abu Ghraib abuse, but the lawyers - aided by Mrs Karpinski - want to convince the German prosecutor that they have established a chain of command leading back to Mr Rumsfeld and which takes in other senior administration officials. Since Mr Rumsfeld can no longer be legally shielded by his office, he has become vulnerable.

The former German prosecutor threw out an earlier attempt at a private criminal prosecution against Mr Rumsfeld in Germany. Human rights lawyers in Germany say this was the result of pressure by the US administration on Berlin.

Certainly, the timing was significant - the case was rejected on the eve of a planned visit to Munich by Mr Rumsfeld. Then, the prosecutor claimed that the United States was primarily responsible for prosecuting any alleged offences.

Now, however, the civil rights lawyers are arguing that there is strong new evidence against the former defence secretary.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-2453106,00.html

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Iqhunk
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posted November 15, 2006 01:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paul Wofowitz and other PNAC proponents are equally guilty. The case has to be broadened, seeing the circumstantial evidence of how Wolfowitz gets promoted as
World Bank Chief. Many puppet governments in 3rd world countries are directly controlled by WB and IMF. Interestingly, World Bank is forcing GM food in the 3rd world and recently hundreds of farmers in Southern India had to break the law to burn GM crops when stooges planted them without knowledge of the local populace. Not even a single signpost, no warning whatsoever. Those GM crops could have infected and wiped out all local breeds. Shady shady stuff by Monsanto and their World Bank backers.

Anyway, indicting Rummy would be a great start. Rummy represents not just international war crime but also the crime of legalizing toxins like Aspartame.

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Mirandee
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posted November 15, 2006 01:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to see Rumsfeld brought to justice as it would set a precedent for any future president and his administration.

But it isn't only Rumsfeld. It is also Bush and Cheney who need to answer for their advocating torture and outsourcing torture in secret detention centers all over the world.

We need to clean up this whole mess that has left a black eye on the U.S.

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posted November 15, 2006 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get over it. It's not going to happen. A leftist bast@rd went nation shopping for a nation which had laws on the books to launch his jihad against the Bush administration.

The German prosecutors will not prosecute this case and if they do, the German Courts with throw the piece of trash out of court.

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naiad
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posted November 15, 2006 01:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqhunk ~ good info.

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Dulce Luna
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posted November 15, 2006 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well guys, get ready for sh*t to hit the fan.....

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pidaua
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posted November 15, 2006 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Get over it. It's not going to happen. A leftist bast@rd went nation shopping for a nation which had laws on the books to launch his jihad against the Bush administration."

Absolutely jwhop- sounds to me like some lawyer wants to play celebrity. It will be fun watching it backfire - not to mention all the money that will be wasted on a no-win case.

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