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jwhop
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posted November 28, 2006 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
INVASION USA
Illegal aliens murder
12 Americans daily
Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total
U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan
Posted: November 28, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON – While the military "quagmire" in Iraq was said to tip the scales of power in the U.S. midterm elections, most Americans have no idea more of their fellow citizens – men, women and children – were murdered this year by illegal aliens than the combined death toll of U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan since those military campaigns began.

Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens, a number of groups have produced estimates based on data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research.

Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.

Total U.S. troop deaths in Iraq as of last week were reported at 2,863. Total U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan during the five years of the Afghan campaign are currently at 289, according to the Department of Defense.

But the carnage wrought by illegal alien murderers represents only a fraction of the pool of blood spilled by American citizens as a result of an open border and un-enforced immigration laws.

While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745. That's 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001.

While no one – in or out of government – tracks traffic all U.S. accidents caused by illegal aliens, the statistical and anecdotal evidence suggests many of last year's 42,636 road deaths involved illegal aliens.

A report by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Study found 20 percent of fatal accidents involve at least one driver who lacks a valid license. In California, another study showed that those who have never held a valid license are about five times more likely to be involved in a fatal road accident than licensed drivers.

Statistically, that makes them an even greater danger on the road than drivers whose licenses have been suspended or revoked – and nearly as dangerous as drunk drivers.

King also reports eight American children are victims of sexual abuse by illegal aliens every day – a total of 2,920 annually.

Based on a one-year in-depth study, Deborah Schurman-Kauflin of the Violent Crimes Institute of Atlanta estimates there are about 240,000 illegal immigrant sex offenders in the United States who have had an average of four victims each. She analyzed 1,500 cases from January 1999 through April 2006 that included serial rapes, serial murders, sexual homicides and child molestation committed by illegal immigrants.

As the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. increases, so does the number of American victims.

According to Edwin Rubenstien, president of ESR Research Economic Consultants, in Indianapolis in 1980, federal and state correctional facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens. But at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in all U.S. jails and prisons.

While the federal government doesn't track illegal alien murders, illegal alien rapes or illegal alien drunk driving deaths, it has studied illegal aliens incarcerated in U.S. prisons.

In April 2005, the Government Accountability Office released a report on a study of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities during 2003. It found the following:

The 55,322 illegal aliens studied represented a total of 459,614 arrests – some eight arrests per illegal alien;
Their arrests represented a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses – some 13 offenses per illegal alien; 36 percent had been arrested at least five times before.


"While the vast majority of illegal aliens are decent people who work hard and are only trying to make a better life for themselves and their families, (something you or I would probably do if we were in their place), it is also a fact that a disproportionately high percentage of illegal aliens are criminals and sexual predators," states Peter Wagner, author of a new report called "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration." "That is part of the dark side of illegal immigration and when we allow the 'good' in we get the 'bad' along with them. The question is, how much 'bad' is acceptable and at what price?"
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53103

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pidaua
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posted November 28, 2006 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These stats just make me sick. People don't realize the reality of the harm done when people cross our borders ILLEGALLY- in Mexico rape an offense that can be punishable by death, as is pedophilia. Crossing the border is a way to beat the punishment and they disappear into our system.

The stats don't even come close to accounting for the costs associated with the clean up of trash, clothes and cans of food left by the crossers. Nor does it track the money spent each year as militant groups such as La Raza sue ranchers for detaining illegal immigrants that just damaged their land or killed their animals.

I think anyone that thinks we should just give illegals a chance, should buy property along the border and see how long it takes before their fences are torn down, their animals are kills, their clothes are stolen or how often their houses are broken into.

I believe they would sing a different tune.

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 28, 2006 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you propose a solution to this problem?

People usually come here because they are poor and are seeking a better life.

What shall we do build a 3,000 mile long electrified fence?

What will happen to our economy if we lose this huge component of cheap labor?

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jwhop
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posted November 29, 2006 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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People usually come here because they are poor and are seeking a better life.

What shall we do build a 3,000 mile long electrified fence?

What will happen to our economy if we lose this huge component of cheap labor?...Blue


Since when is the promotion of "cheap labor" an argument of the political left Blue?

Those who wish to come to America need to do so legally, through the front door. They need to wish to "be" Americans, not a foreign contingent, clinging to their former language, customs and traditions and attempting to convert America into their former homelands.

That's what has worked for wave after wave of immigrants who have come to America. They assimilated and nothing else is acceptable, nor will it work.

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 29, 2006 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who said anything about a leftist argument? Who said anything about leftists at all?

I think you've got a disease Jwhop, and it's called leftitis. It entails a preoccupation and obession with liberals.

All I hear in your post is a statement of the way you think things should be in your head. The way things may once have been. Well, it was a lot easier to have controlled immigration in the past when the majority of immigrants came in on BOATS and not by land. Maybe you need to check out a history book.

You sound like an idealist. Which is exactly what you hate. In your ideal world all immigration would be legal, but you offer absolutely no solution or technique for battling this issue, only a "vision" of the way things should be in your head. If this is not idealism I don't know what is.

Looks like you need a reality check Jwhimp.

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jwhop
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posted November 29, 2006 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once again Blue, you avoid making or attempting to make an argument and resort to personal attacks.

Show us your brilliance Blue. What are the positives associated with illegal immigration?

BTW, I have you seated in the correct "phew", the leftist "phew".

**edit**

Leftists are not liberals. Liberals are not leftists.

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 29, 2006 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me put it this way. If you refuse to answer any of my questions and resort to ad hominem I will do the same.

If you actually answer some of my questions and attempt to engage in a rational discussion I will most surely and earnestly answer yours.

Until then continue to discuss my head trauma, mental illness, and idiocy until you're blue in the face.

If you want to have real discussions thats fine. But what I see more than anything is your desire to bash leftists, which essentially accomplishes nothing. I see that you have a lot of knowledge of history and politics and I would gladly learn from it, but that would require you being civil.

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jwhop
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posted November 30, 2006 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Blue, if you really want to have a reasonable discussion about illegal immigration and have questions, I'll attempt to answer them.

Notice, I said reasonable discussion...which wouldn't include a 3,000 mile "electrified" fence.

Ball is in your court.

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jwhop
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posted December 05, 2006 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you actually answer some of my questions and attempt to engage in a rational discussion I will most surely and earnestly answer yours...Blue

Still waiting BlueRoamer!

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