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neptune5
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posted December 08, 2006 12:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have to admit, that the truth of the matter is, the fact taht parts of our nation is so corrupt and instinctively seems to be going down hill, is because, commentators, journalists, etc. the like act and speak as if they are and want to do something about America's edging problems, but inside they don't, they're not being real to the cause, and not just that, their wasting their time, and the precious time of millions of Americans and people around the globe. And also, we have to realize that fact that if our world leaders (presidents, p. ministers, etc. the like) wanted the world to change, it would, if they wanted a better world, it would come, or at least you would see the effort, but ominously all we hear is big talk and arrogance. It's time to start being real, and the only place we can start, is with ourselves, and here on Global Unity.


(please post, honestly)

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Johnny
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posted December 08, 2006 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can we be real, though? I mean, I'm real! Or... at least I think I am!

Let's get some names, here! Who are the figments among us? Out with it, I say!

No, seriously, I'm all for reality. Reality is great! Well, actually, it kind of sucks, but still.

I guess I don't know what you mean.

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naiad
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posted December 09, 2006 12:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh dear...i'm afraid i must be a figment...

i confess!!

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Johnny
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posted December 09, 2006 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back, Figment! Back!!

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naiad
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posted December 09, 2006 01:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dream on mister.....

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Johnny
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posted December 09, 2006 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooh, a sparkly figment...!

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Xodian
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posted December 09, 2006 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Harsh reality:

The only way we'll ever have true Global Unity, its when we manage to find a planet that can provide enough resouces to satisfy out vitually unlimited wants and needs... and that'll never happen unfortunately since our wants and needs ARE limitless.

Fact of the matter is, we have limited resoruces and everyone wants em. When it comes down to it all, those who amass a greater force over another will have the final say unfortunately.

Looking at this is a realistic way ppl; In truth, when it comes down to it all, force is the ultimate justifier. All laws have meaning because of penelties for breaking them; Its the only way to maintian order. So a country that manages to subdue others with a greater force doesn't need to trade or negotiate. HOWEVER, to amass a great enough force to take on the world is virtually impossible. We are at a time in history that sees unrest and devistating weapons in the hands of many countries. Going out for war will only result in total annialation. So... we do this the economic way. If there is any remote possibility of international coopertation, it will be though economic partnerships.

THAT is my view.

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neptune5
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posted December 13, 2006 06:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice approach to the issue Xodian.

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thirteen
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posted December 14, 2006 08:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK here I go again: Im going to make a statement I can't prove to plant seeds in the minds of those who would take them:

Xodian, you are right in a lot of what you say but I don't beleive this or any war is over resources. There are much higher ideals and truths being fought over. This is a war over beleifs, good and bad, old energy vs. new energy. Thats why Bush always says this is a war on terror. Terror represents the old way of the energy of this planet. There is now today more light on this planet than darkness. This light is showing what was always hidden before in the old energy. The only way to let the light prevail is to let the old and new clash ( war- or at least that is how humankind has decided to let it play out)

Humans are very innovative, If we run out of resources we build electric vehicles. Its happening already.

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thirteen
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posted December 14, 2006 10:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know....... if we humans can regenerate then who's to say that mother earth can't regenerate herself? ( regenreate her resources) I had a moment of insight after I posted above. I have seen weird occurrances in nature concerning the lake water levels where my summer home is. I had that thought then, that somehow the earth was creating changes, they were not man created.
Just a thought. I will have to seek out more information on this myself.

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neptune5
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posted December 14, 2006 04:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes thirteen! You've hit it on the nail, great point. It's all evolutionizing. That is the most important feature of mother earth and her ability to sustain its creatures. Change. Everything is apart of the hugely repetitive cycle of life. Everything was born, grows, dies, and sooner or later is born again. Thats why we have things like the food chain, the sun and the moon(day and night), astrology, and natural physics. Its our worlds greatest wonder.

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted December 14, 2006 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Xodian, I dont think there can ever be enough resources for mankind. America has enough gas reserves to last itself 200 yrs the last time I read, so what do you consider this war to be over, do you know what i mean? I think that there is no limit to human want and desire; no such thing as economic sufficiency in real life although there might be in theory.

Economics as a system might actually WORK if politics didnt keep coming in the way. And politics particularly dirty politics is an integral part of the human psyche. At least to me that is the case...

What thirteen has said could be flipped 180 degrees, and that could be applied to the 'terrorists' that attack west also. They also think that they are illuminating an earth enveloped in darkness.

The inability to prove either side wrong or right in my mind is proof enough that both are at fault. There is no mission--the mission is to peacefully coexist and try to bring about the greatest benefit to mankind, at least to me. But these groups dont see this--they see the benefit of mankind being the benefit of their respective groups (religious or ethnic whatever) because mankind revolves around their group in particular. If you think abt it its kind of inhuman--thinking that another group is not part of one's side, and that they dont deserve any benefit but only to be annihilated. Anyone who falls prey to that mentality is a sick person and thats all I can say. Even inthat case we cannot eliminate sick mentalities by eliminating these people. We must use logic and reason to persuade these people and slowly assimilate them to the best form of the human psyche--acceptance, tolerance, and personal moral perseverence. They are at the lowest moral rung of the ladder--this does not mean they are evil people. I dont think any human is inherently evil. They have only to be taken up the right path. If they cannot succeed--well maybe then and only then can extreme measures like war succeed.

Well neptune Im not sure what you meant by your post but yes every regime stinks of corruption, I dont even think people are corrupt in differing degrees, they only haev different priorities. While one person may have swindling money as a priority, others may be bent on religious war, or wiping out an ethnicity, yet others may be bent on elevating their race above others, establishing national superiority, or anything else of the sort.

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Xodian
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posted December 14, 2006 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thriteen:

I do agree that we humans are innovative . However, we tend to only get innovative when a looming crisis is at hand unfortunately. Though yes advancements come slowly aand surely some of the most striking and quick advancements in technology came though war. Even the internet you use now was a military invention (believe it or not.) So would it take a huge crisis for us to evolve more? Food for thought.

SG:

Wars always had strategic reasons behind them SG. Though many would deny it, the U.S. occupation of Iraq falls under considerable favor for the U.S. since they get an open base of opertations in a country that has a VERY important strategic placement in the Middle East (Not for oil mind you.)

The current crisis in the West bank and Israel's conflict with its neighbours goes far beyond just religion. Israel currently occupies very important sources of Water, including the Golan Heights (which has been so overused that sea water is now seeping in the reserves.) Hammas wants control over palestinian territories to amass their own private sector and the reasons go on and on.

The rest; I openly agree. Its all about opportunity cost for people. What do they think their time and energy should be put on? Some would say that ethnic clensing is a more upright and forward action then negotiations. Sheez...

Man by nature is territorial and we cannot change that. We can however work out a better living arrangement on this planet then the one we have now.

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neptune5
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posted December 14, 2006 05:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SG

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Well neptune Im not sure what you meant by your post but yes every regime stinks of corruption, I dont even think people are corrupt in differing degrees, they only haev different priorities. While one person may have swindling money as a priority, others may be bent on religious war, or wiping out an ethnicity, yet others may be bent on elevating their race above others, establishing national superiority, or anything else of the sort.

What post? I simply made good points and that was that, if it was difficult to understand in the first place no one would have replied to "Let's B-Real". So what are you talking about. Be specific.

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted December 14, 2006 05:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didnt say your post was incomprehensible.

I said I didnt understand it--there is a difference.

One implies you are a bad writer and the other implies I am a bad reader lol.

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commentators, journalists, etc. the like act and speak as if they are and want to do something about America's edging problems

This is the part that I didnt quite understand. Are you saying that media is misleading intentionally or that they are simply not addressing the problems at hand?

Also who are commentators, (want to clarify that) is it anyone who goes on TV to takl about politics or like the legal advisors in the WH?

I would imagine theres a differnece in perspective there for instance.

Xodian what I meant was that resources can never be enough because people are greedy and they will always want mroe even when they have enough for themselves. I do not doubt that war has had strategy , but the strategic steps in my opinion can be traced back to 'i want more resources' and 'how can i get those resources' and 'who is in the way of my resources or getting there?'
(even if I have ENOUGH resources)...

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Xodian
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posted December 14, 2006 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I do not doubt that war has had strategy , but the strategic steps in my opinion can be traced back to 'i want more resources' and 'how can i get those resources' and 'who is in the way of my resources or getting there?'
(even if I have ENOUGH resources)...

Hit the nail right on the head.

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neptune5
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posted December 14, 2006 06:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, SG, i wasn't specific enough but in all actuality I meant it to be a general statement.

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commentators, journalists, etc. the like act and speak as if they are and want to do something about America's edging problems

I'm not a bad writer, you just didn't read between the lines. Reading is fun when you learn, whenever you read something thats professionally written, you look towards the "whole" entire sentence. Meaning, I was referring to the journalists and commentators that are used by the media to "try" and address this nations moral, ethical, educational, & economical issues.


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One implies you are a bad writer and the other implies I am a bad reader lol.

(please don't fault me if i take this a little too seriously, i have Moon Opp. AC with Mars square my Moon & AC)
I'm really not a bad writer, and I plan to make the majority of my monetary unit writing. I'm 3rdHLibra with Pluto in 3rd, Pluto trine chiron, so what I say, I fashion it in a way its pleasing to the ear, but at the same time, deep and true, and my words have a healing affect to them.

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted December 14, 2006 07:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goodness Neptune you keep missing my point or I keep missing your point I do NOT know what is going on here.

I said that I AM THE BAD READER HERE. I said you are NOT the bad writer.

Lets take a look at what I said:

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I didnt say your post was incomprehensible.
I said I didnt understand it--there is a difference.

One implies you are a bad writer and the other implies I am a bad reader lol.


I said I didnt understand your post right? Now looka t the above statement. That is option number 2. In the last sentence I say 'the other' (option 2), implies I am a bad reader. So of the two options, the one that I am the bad reader is the one that I SAID was RESPONSIBLE.

I am not yelling just clarifying. That I was trying to put the blame on ME not YOU.

Goodness it must be the sag/gemini thing happening because I just cannot communicate straight with any sags. They always misinterpret my words.

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neptune5
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posted December 15, 2006 03:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awww SG, i'm sorry i gave you the blues, i'm such a difficult person,(i say that to my mom all the time), well...everythings squeaky clear now. I love you SG(don't take that out of context, i love a lot of people), you seem really intelligent.

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted December 15, 2006 03:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey neptune, thanks for understanding! I was not blue at all just frustrated because I am supposed to be a good communicator And when I feel that I am not communicating well it makes me feel disappointed in myself. I was trying to poke fun at myself and definitely was not trying to lay blame on you.

I think you are also very intelligent and ask perceptive questions. Its great to see people who ask questions--sometimes it seems like everyone here has all their answers before they come on GU and are only here to spit out their preprogrammed answers at everyone. Through questioning only can we reach a higher understanding of each other and the world we live in .

Much love to you too.

Love
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neptune5
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posted December 17, 2006 01:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yo, SG this might seem funny, but can I ask you a favour? can you reply to my latest FFA threads, and give your opinion, yes opinion

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