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Sweet Stars
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Thousands in Capital to Protest Iraq War
By LARRY MARGASAK, AP

WASHINGTON (Jan. 27) - Thousands of anti-war protesters, energized by fresh congressional skepticism about the war in Iraq, were demanding a withdrawal of U.S. troops in a demonstration Saturday featuring a handful of celebrities such as Susan Sarandon and Jane Fonda.

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"We see many things that we feel helpless about. But this is like a united force. This is something I can do," said 59-year-old Barbara Struna of Brewster, Mass.

Struna, a mother of five who runs an art gallery, said she made a two-day bus trip with her 17-year-old daughter, Anna, to the nation's capital to represent what she said was middle America's opposition to President Bush's war policy.

"My generation is the one that is going to have to pay for this," added the high school senior who said she knows as many as 20 friends who have been to Iraq.

She held a sign that said, "Heck of a job, Bushie," mocking Bush's words of encouragement to his disaster relief chief, Michael Brown, amid criticism of the government's immediate response to Hurricane Katrina in the summer of 2005.

Other demonstrators on a clear, sunny day carried signs to the National Mall that said "Make hip-hop not War," "The surge is a lie," and "Clean water speaks louder than bombs."

United for Peace and Justice, a coalition group sponsoring the protest, said there has been intense interest in the rally since Bush announced he was sending 21,500 additional troops to Iraq. He termed the increase a "surge" in troops.

The group said its Internet site received more than 5 million hits this month, including 650,000 on Wednesday - the day leaders held a media briefing about the protest.

The rally was scheduled as congressional opposition to the war is building. The Senate is considering nonbinding resolutions that would state opposition to Bush sending the extra forces to Iraq.

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., led a delegation to Iraq on Friday, while Bush met with military leaders in the Oval Office.

Frank Houde, 72, of Albany, N.Y., was a career Air Force pilot who served in Vietnam. Houde did not carry a sign, but said that his protest was on his hat, which said "Veterans for peace."

"The fact is war doesn't work. Iraq is not going to work. The war was started for reasons that turned out to be false," said the former pilot and navigator.

Houde, retired from the antique restoration business, said he was never upset by protests at home while he was in Vietnam.

"I knew most were protesting on principle," he said. "It was a democratic process."

Houde said he came to this protest to be counted and added, "You can't sit in the middle of the stink of war for a year and not be affected by it. We changed the balance of power in Congress."

He said that since the new Democratic Congress is now starting to listen to those opposing the war, the timing of the protest "isn't an accident."

Scheduled speakers in addition to Fonda and Sarandon included Danny Glover, Tim Robbins, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, National Organization for Women President Kim Gandy and several members of Congress who oppose the war.

A small group of active-duty military troops planned to attend the protest. A Defense Department spokeswoman said members of the Armed Forces can speak out, subject to several restrictions. They must not do so in uniform, and they must make clear that they do not speak on behalf of their military unit, their service or the Defense Department, unless authorized to do so.

01/27/07 10:28 EST

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It's giving on C-span. My mom left on a bus at 5am

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted January 27, 2007 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My fiend is there right now protesting

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posted January 29, 2007 05:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing better to do? Are there free drinks and sandwiches?

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posted January 29, 2007 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a nice day for a little bunch of brain dead commies to show up and attempt to hand another enemy of the United States another victory. Hey, some things never change.

And all the screeching, shrieking, pants wetting commies were there...including some commies in the congress of the United States...members of the "Progressive Caucus"...commies by another name..since the word communist began to stink up the world a while back and they were forced to become..Progressives.

Not to be outdone by the run of the mill commies, Hollywood commies were there too...doing what Hollywood commies always do...make total as$es out of themselves with their incoherent screeching.

They even had the traitor/commie Jane Fonda say a few words. Some of us still remember some words out of Fonda's mouth from the 60's and 70's when Fonda was swapping spit with the communists of North Vietnam urging US service personnel to surrender to communist North Vietnam.

Oh, and what a shame her sidekick, fellow commie and traitor John Kerry couldn't be there too. Seems Traitor Kerry was otherwise engaged...in denouncing the United States in front of a foreign audience at the Davos Conference in Europe...where else?

And these hysterical, shrieking, brain dead morons wonder why no one with two brain cells to rub together pay the slightest attention to them.

Of course, the leftist press pays lots of attention to them...but they..the leftist press..cannot be counted among those who actually have two brain cells to rub together.

Relishing Defeat
By Jacob Laksin
FrontPageMagazine.com | January 29, 2007

For all the twists and turns of the conflict in Iraq, it’s comforting to reflect that one thing hasn’t changed: The antiwar “movement” -- that motley aggregation of Hollywood glitterati, bullhorn radicals and leftist Democrats -- remains as irresponsible and unserious as ever.

As evidence, consider this weekend’s much-hyped antiwar protest in the nation’s capital. Coming on the heels of last Wednesday’s nonbinding anti-surge resolution, a cynical stunt engineered by the Democrat-dominated Senate Foreign Relations Committee to oppose the 21,500 troop increase in Iraq, the protest was a transparent attempt by a political fringe to capitalize on popular discontent over the war’s conduct.

To wit: The star of the demonstration was none other than Jane Fonda. As she told it, the 69-year-old actress had come out of protest retirement -- this was her first anti-war demonstration in 34 years, Fonda solemnly explained -- in order to break her silence about, well, the need to break her silence. “Silence is no longer an option,” Fonda announced, thus dealing a certain blow to public discourse. Fonda also delivered a historical lecture. Likening Iraq to the war in Vietnam, Fonda condemned what she called America’s “blindness to realities on the ground.”

This is richly ironic. It was Fonda after all who distinguished herself in the Vietnam War by glad-handing communists in Hanoi and making propaganda broadcasts for their cause, only to look on as the real destruction commenced once South Vietnam fell to her former hosts. That a similarly destructive fate awaits Iraq in the absence of American troops is a thought that seems never to have disturbed Fonda’s famous conscience.

Or of any of Tinseltown’s premiere peaceniks. Sharing top-billing with Fonda at the protest was the usual contingent of actor activists, including Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins. Together they succeeded in reaffirming the widespread wisdom that film stars depart from scripts at their peril. Directing himself to Congressional Democrats, a coherence-challenged Sean Penn burbled, “If they don't stand up and make a resolution as binding as the death toll, we're not going to be behind those politicians.” Whether Penn really intended to suggest that the Bush administration be put to death -- the only logical interpretation of his statement -- is anyone’s guess.

Not to be upstaged for the part of leading dunce was protest rally mainstay Tim Robbins. Robbins, whose 2003 antiwar play “Embedded,” portraying embedded journalists as mindless mouthpieces for a warmongering White House, was dismissed as “artless propaganda” by the liberal New Republic on its way to flopping spectacularly, used the occasion of the protest to urge the president’s immediate impeachment.

All of this may seem merely laughable. What makes it worrisome is the fact that impeachment -- and worse -- ranks highly on the agenda of several Democrats who appeared at the protest. Of no one is that more true than Rep. John Conyers, the Michigan Democrat who has repeatedly signaled his intention to impeach the president. In 2003, Conyers presided over a meeting to draft articles of impeachment against President Bush for the alleged crime of invading Iraq. When impeachment invited well-grounded charges of extremism and became a political liability for the Democrats, Conyers took to the pages of the Washington Post to reassure voters that, were he to become chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, he would limit himself to investigating “potentially impeachable offenses.”

No doubt because of the fragility of the Democratic mandate, Conyers has pushed aside impeachment to pursue an equally extreme course: cutting off funds for the war. It was this cause that Conyers preached at this weekend’s rally, where he was joined by Rep. Dennis Kucinich and California’s Maxine Waters, who have likewise called on their colleagues to close the national purse to the troops. Although Democrats have been at pains to insist that they would never refuse funding for the war effort -- “Absolutely not,” stressed Nancy Pelosi last month -- Conyers and his ilk have been working overtime to undermine the party’s credibility.

Their supporters, meanwhile, prefer more forceful measures. Accordingly, this weekend’s rally featured an attempt by 300 protestors to storm the Capitol building, followed by a predicable clash with police. Those puzzled by the incongruity of violence at “peace” rally need only consider the groups behind the protest. The principal sponsor of the demonstration was United for Peace and Justice, a coalition of 1,400 antiwar groups led by the veteran Communist operative Leslie Cagan. Marching alongside the UFJP were representatives of World Can’t Wait, a scarcely disguised front for the Revolutionary Communist Party. No stranger to militant tactics, the WCW in 2005 staged a day of “society-wide resistance” aimed at toppling the Bush administration but succeeding largely in stalling traffic in select cities.

Also present at this weekend’s rally was Medea Benjamin, the founder of antiwar group Code Pink and one of the main architects of the 1999 protests in Seattle wherein rampaging anti-globalization activists burned cars, smashed windows and generally sowed disorder in a failed bid to shut down a conference of the World Trade Organization. For her part, Benjamin hailed the riots, which caused millions of dollars in property damage, as “a battle cry.” In this company, it’s little wonder that some demonstrators felt free to mount their charge.

And what antiwar demonstration would be complete without the stirring sight of ideologue parents shamelessly parading their children to score a political point? Press accounts of the rally doted on the story of one Moriah Arnold, a 12-year old from Massachusetts who “stood on her toes to reach the microphone” so that she could call the president a liar and the country he leads
“a bully and a liar.” (Isn’t that adorable?) It was duly noted that Arnold became interested in the antiwar movement after clicking onto the website of United for Peace and Justice. No one bothered to record the fact that the young activist had actually been instructed to read the website by her mother.

Young Moriah, to be sure, faced stiff competition. For instance, there was Annie Yanowitz, the “housewife from Amherst, Mass.,” who moved photographers with the picture-perfect image of her two-year-old daughter slumbering in a backpack labeled: “Money for Schools Not for War.” Never mind that her Amherst school district spends more per pupil than almost any other district in the state. What are facts, or even basic parental dignity, next to the moral frisson of sticking it to the Bush administration?

Here, in a nutshell, is your “antiwar movement.” Critics will doubtless point out that the American public is itself deeply dissatisfied with the war. That’s true, but it obscures a larger truth: What mainly galls the public is the lack of observable progress, especially the inability to improve security in Iraq and beat back the insurgency. Such concerns are of a different order altogether from the protest posturing, softheaded moralizing and not-so-latent anti-Americanism that has animated much of the antiwar rank and file.

In other words, the antiwar movement remains hopelessly adrift from the American mainstream. When so much in foreign affairs seems unpredictable, that’s one constant to be thankful for.
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posted January 29, 2007 11:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nothing better to do? Are there free drinks and sandwiches?


Yeah let's see your lazy fat a$$ get up at 5am when it's freezing outside, to get on a bus for a 6 hour drive, just to tell the president, that people are dying because of his war.

and at the same time being on your feet all day for all those hours.

Then taking a 6 hour bus ride back and arriving at midnight.


Definitely nothing to do I guess. It's called fighting for human rights dumb a$$.

You ever talk crap about my mom again then I will hunt your a$$ down.


Stupid prick.


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posted January 30, 2007 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stuff it blowhard.

Don't ever make the mistake of trying to follow through with a threat...not with me.

You better find yourself a girlie man to threaten and don't believe for a second that's me. One day, you're going to pop off to the wrong person..in person and you aren't going to like the result. That's what happens when you get in the habit of shooting your mouth off online and forget where the hell you are.

If your mother was out there making an as$ out of herself with the other jerks, twits communists and assorted as$es, perhaps she should get some psychological help....good advice for you too, not that you have enough common sense to take it.

Now, for the rest of our readers...some of those communist jerks decided to deface the Capitol building in Washington, DC by spreading paint on the walls and steps...and then posing for pictures of their handiwork. Real Americans those.

These out of control idiots did millions of dollars of damage to public and private property in Seattle a couple of years ago. Again, real Americans...NOT

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posted January 30, 2007 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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some of those communist jerks decided to deface the Capitol building in Washington, DC by spreading paint on the walls and steps...and then posing for pictures of their handiwork. Real Americans those.

Grossness...that digusts the crap out of me. The friend i mentioned that went to the protest is a very peaceful and sweet girl. Very optimistic and a little naive (Pisces Pisces merc and venus in Pisces). Shes a very sweet creature but ultraaaa liberal. But hey to all their own. She wouldnt deface anything and it irks the crap out of me that someone would. Dumb vandals all they can think of doing...

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Hopefully they paint Nazi all over your house next time and do me a favor Jwhop, keep my mom's name out of your mouth or I'll hunt you down.

You stupid old piece of s***.


I feel bad for your mom. She has a son who is a Nazi.


And born didn't you say you were a Democrat?

I just find it wierd that your always taking Jwhop's side when all he does is talk crap about Democrats.


Maybe you are a bit confused about what you really are?

It sure seems like it. Dumb a$$.


And Jwhop...tell your mother to suck a c*** and choke on it. And if she is already dead then good.


Could give 2 ***** about the Nazi b****.


Talk **** about my mother and I will come back stronger.

Stupid red neck hick.

Go kill yourself.


I won't cry for you. I'll spit in your grave.


and in your mothers.


Anyone else have a problem with what I said?


Go cry about it somewhere else.


I'm not gonna allow any piece of s*** to talk crap about my mom.


So go f*** yourselves and die.

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posted January 30, 2007 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earth to the brain dead moron.

You're the one who introduced your mother into this discussion.

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posted January 30, 2007 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes BUD, your friend may be naive, may have the best intentions...but...the people she was protesting with and on whose behalf she showed up to give her support..do not have the best intentions.

There's an old adage which applies well here.

Don't lay down with dogs if you don't want fleas.

To associate ones self with the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA and other groups associated with those whose purpose is to overthrow the United States..by force or otherwise, is most unwise.

To give an ounce of support to those communist thugs, twits, morons, imbeciles and other types of mental defectives is to associate ones self with the dregs of our society.

And BUD, those are the exact people who organized and sponsored the so called protest under discussion.

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Jwhop you should have more respect for protests. Protest is a crucial part of our society, our history, and our freedom.

People should be allowed to protest on any issue they please, but unfortunately vandalism is not cool.

Nonetheless, we need protest to maintain an image of freedom to the world. Without the freedom to peaceably assemble we're not that far above China. Think about it.

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posted January 30, 2007 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And born didn't you say you were a Democrat?

I just find it wierd that your always taking Jwhop's side when all he does is talk crap about Democrats.


Yes i am a democrat. And Jwhop doesnt say crap about Democrats (as proven by his post on Lieberman which im not sure if you read) he says crap about ignorant fools which i support him on completely. If we rid this world of idiots it could solve a few things for sure.

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Maybe you are a bit confused about what you really are?

It sure seems like it. Dumb a$$.


LOL i think it is in fact you who is confused...probably about your species...get over yourself, stop insulting everyone and get a hobby....or a job... either one of those things could help you quite a lot you know...I didnt say a word to you so why dont you go play dead or something no one's talking to you, self centered little girl.

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I won't cry for you. I'll spit in your grave.

You seem to have an aweful lot of spit in you...didnt anyone tell you tobacco chewing is bad?

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And BUD, those are the exact people who organized and sponsored the so called protest under discussion.

Yea im quite sure, but im not going to try and change my friend, to each their own and i adore her personality and all. I dont agree with her but unlike some people on this forum, I dont have to attack someone because they do not conform to some strict ideals. Its usually these same people who are so into conformity who start racism by screaming "OMG U DONT FIT MY LABEL YOU SCARE ME"...thats what it really goes down too, unshakable fear. So be proud Jwhop, you are well feared


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Nonetheless, we need protest to maintain an image of freedom to the world. Without the freedom to peaceably assemble we're not that far above China. Think about it.


Well i definately agree with your protest on this forum

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posted January 30, 2007 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The right to petition government is secured by the 1st Amendment and is a cherished American right.

But it says to "peaceably assemble" and does not grant a right to destroy private or personal property in the process...accidentally or deliberately.

My point was that people need to be aware of who they are supporting with their protests...and what their ultimate aims and goals are. In almost every case, the goals and aims of these communist morons doesn't have a damned thing to do with whatever they're protesting.

For instance, I would like to see our borders secured but there's no way in hell I would march with the KKK if they decided to hold a rally or march to protest the government's open borders policy.

Hmmm, I'm just a laid back pussycat ball of fluff.

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posted January 31, 2007 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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, I'm just a laid back pussycat ball of fluff.

Awww nice kitty!!!

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posted January 31, 2007 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the subtleties of your sarcasm its trully something to appreciate. Its honestly sad that it all will get lost in translation and completely miss its mark. Poo

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posted January 31, 2007 05:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think, somebody here isn't able to discuss. Moderators, do you see that? It is really dubious, that such persons still have the right to write here.

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posted January 31, 2007 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we are all quite dubious about that ordeal, eventually someone will do something about it. But whats the point after going into remission it just comes right back.

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Jan-A, Jwhop, and born go kill yourselves.


I won't cry for you just like you won't cry for the people who die everyday from this war you all support.


I could care less whether you die a horrible death. You'll all deserve it.

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posted January 31, 2007 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOLOLOLOL is that the best you can do? Wish everyone death? I believe Jwhop has already said all the lovely things he can say about you so i shall not proceed to add to that list. Its long enough. Stop embarassing yourself here, practically everyone thinks your a fool even if they dont say so...

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