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jwhop
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posted March 28, 2007 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course, no one should be surprised by that.

Penn's father was also a brain dead communist moron.

So, is communism a disease people catch or is it genetic?

Hollywood history repeats itself
Posted: March 26, 2007
11:18 p.m. Eastern

Imagine, for a moment, it's 1939.

A prominent Jewish actor makes the following statement.

"Let me tell you something about Germany, because I've been there and you haven't. Germany is a great country. A great country. Does it have its haters? You bet. Just like the United States has its haters. Does it have a corrupt regime? You bet. Just like the United States has a corrupt regime."

What would you think of such a person? How would history judge him?

I don't know that anyone made exactly that statement in 1939. But I do know that Sean Penn made a very similar statement a few days ago. The only difference was the name of the country. Instead of Germany, substitute Iran.

Is there really any moral difference between the statements?

Iran is led today by a president who has repeatedly threatened to eradicate the state of Israel. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is building weapons that can get the job done quicker and more efficiently than Adolf Hitler with his formidable war machine. He is every bit the Jew hater that Hitler was. And he hates America even more.

In 1939, Adolf Hitler had made clear his intentions for the Jews. He had made clear his intentions for all of Europe. He had made clear his intentions for Nazi Germany to dominate the world.

Nevertheless, there were some people in Hollywood who were making statements like that. There were people in Hollywood who were marching against war with Germany. There were people in Hollywood who, like Sean Penn, wanted to appease this evil on the horizon.

No, there was no active Nazi Party in Hollywood at that time. But there was a party under the active control of a foreign totalitarian dictator. It was the Communist Party USA and the foreign tyrant was Josef Stalin.

Why were communists in Hollywood – even Jews – saying nice things about Hitler in 1939 – and even as late as 1941? They were doing so because of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact – also known as the Hitler-Stalin Pact.

It was signed in 1939 and broken June 22, 1941, when the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union.

From 1939 right up until June 22, 1941, the communists in Hollywood had nothing but praise for Hitler. They held rallies against aiding Britain in its life-and-death struggle with Nazism. They gave speeches saying Hitler was no threat. They wrote anti-war scripts.

All that changed June 22, 1941. One day the Hollywood communists were pro-Hitler. The next day they wanted to go to war. Why? Because they took their orders directly from masters in the Soviet Union.

Would it surprise you to learn that one of those prominent Hollywood communist Jews who sided with Germany until the breaking of that Hitler-Stalin Pact was none other than Leo Penn, the late father of Sean Penn.

Amazing? Yes, but true.

You don't believe history repeats itself?

Now it's Sean Penn's turn to relive and recommit the sins of his father, who never repented of his Communist Party activities – activities that included support for and appeasement of Hitler's Germany at the very time the concentration camps were incinerating his Jewish brothers and sisters in Europe.

Penn spoke at a town hall meeting in Oakland last weekend. What he said about his country was shameful. What he said about our country's enemies – and the enemies of freedom throughout the entire world – was even more despicable.

What can you say about a man who embraces and defends Iran, the biggest state sponsor of terrorism in the world today? What can one say about a man who embraces dictators around the world while openly loathing the elected leaders of his own nation? What can one say about such a prominent self-hating Jew?

I think I've said enough.

It's just history repeating itself.
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posted March 29, 2007 07:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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jwhop, I am an anti-leftist myself, but it would have been great if the title of your threads are more globally acceptable in nature.

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posted March 29, 2007 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else see the irony in the appeal of Communistic ideals to the Hollywood crowd?

I forget. Sometimes it's suggested that Communism isn't real. Or that it's actually good. IMO, it looks good on paper as long as you forget that people have ambitions, goals, dreams and desires, etc. and that everyone is different, an individual. Communism leaves you little individuality and even less of a purpose in life besides what the government allows you. How that can appeal to anybody, much less the very wealthy, is mind boggling.

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posted March 29, 2007 09:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Communism is a cult, I will tell you why. the top-notch people in Communist party are all "filthy" rich, minting money from real estate, and other stuff, where the common, dis-illussioned followers are struggling to make ends meet. Communism wants the followers to be poor so as to make themselves rich. The communist party of India is one of the richest entities here, and they are the root cause for communal hatred, and other political saga.


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Dulce Luna
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posted March 29, 2007 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's exactly what I've been thinking re: it looks good on paper. The part of it that looks good on paper to me though, is the equal distribution. Unfortunately it doesn't work because is there always corrupt people at the top who have the wealth....which is definitely not a communist value.

My relatives remember the time when they were in power in my country. They wanted to do away with alot of traditional values like the chieftains, the Cuandeiros (healers), religion,etc. The real gripe that everyone had with them is that they wanted to do away with everything that made Mozambique,well....Mozambique.

So yeah, all I can say is that there really is no room for individuality in Communism. Although the purpose of it, they say, is to create equality(socially,economically,etc.) ...it just doesn't work out in the end.

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posted March 29, 2007 11:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The irony is that the communist want everyone to stay poor and share, whereas the wealthy communist keep everything for themselves! They never walk the talk - which is the downfall of this crap system.

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posted March 30, 2007 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right on Moon.. You're absolutely right. For communism to work, the poor must stay poor while the top people live off the backs of the poor. There is equal distribution of less that 30% of the income for the poor while the few at the top divide the other 70%.

Meanwhile, step out of line and BAM- you are brought down and sent off to lala land while another poor joe takes your place.

Eleanore is also right. Communism does NOT take into account the ambition of other. Why should I work hard, go to school and make money only for it to be taken away and given to the lady down the street that sits on her rump all day long and pops out kids?

Why should one strive to do something only to have that something taken away and given to others that don't?

I don't see ANY of those vocal Hollywood stars living on communes and dividing up THEIR money to make the world better. Did Penn take a pay cut and decide to live off of $45,000 or less per year while redistributing his millions to the poor inner city folks?

I don't think so- "why" you ask? Because the typical mantra in communism and with these "elitist" liberals is "Do as I say not what I do". Sure it's okay for them to take OUR money, but they won't give up their own.

What is worse is that they prey on the liberals or leftests in this country that WANT to see a change and have good intentions at heart to change the world. The elitists feed into that philosophy, but what they don't tell their masses is that while they will be happy to tell YOU how to live, they will go back to their million dollar homes to their illegal migrant house keepers / chefs while admiring their illegal gun collection- YOU will not have any rights or the same rights... because... the rules apply to the masses- not to the Hollywood elite.

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 30, 2007 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it is annoying to see the wealthy supporting that because obviously they'll 'walk the walk' instead of just 'talk the talk'.

And besides that, I feel like its just too modern a system and there's no room for culture. They want the people to completely disregard their indentity (tribal,religious,individual,etc). I mean after Portuguese occupation, the people felt like they went from the pot to the frying pan when FRELIMO came to power. Geez....

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posted April 08, 2007 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Note the thunderous applause each time the moron Penn pauses for the adoring audience to recognize the brilliance of what he's just said.

But being ably rebutted on video by a cute teenage girl must be one of those moments from hell for an overly pretentious communist moron. Hopefully, she sent Penn a copy.


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Communism is a cult, I will tell you why. the top-notch people in Communist party are all "filthy" rich, minting money from real estate, and other stuff, where the common, dis-illussioned followers are struggling to make ends meet. Communism wants the followers to be poor so as to make themselves rich.

In that way communists are a whole lot like capitalists. And communism is a whole lot like capitalism in the U.S. and other free countries. Both systems are designed to keep the majority of hard working people struggling to make ends meet while the wealthy minority get wealthier.

Reality check. All government systems in the entire world are exactly the same with the exact same agenda. They just call it by different names and sell the illusion in different ways.

P.S. Communist or Capitalist or whatever he might be, Sean Penn is still a very good actor.

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posted April 09, 2007 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No real difference between the governments of China, Korea, Cuba, Laos, and Vietnam and the government of the US and many other countries?

It's true there are plenty of poor or low-income people in the US struggling to make ends meet. The difference is that the US allows you the freedoms and the opportunities to change that in many more ways than any Communist country ever would. I highly doubt that any country will exhibit a population of enitrely wealthy citizens any time soon and I'm not sure how the responsibility for that can be placed entirely on the goverment or its already wealthy citizens. But, on average, most Americans living in the US will not have to face many of the horrors inflicted upon the citizens of Communist nations who are not allowed voices of dissent and whose expression of beliefs, education, employment, etc. are completely controlled by the government. Of course, you can always try to fight back ... and get yourself and your loved ones tortured and/or killed in the process.

That seems to me to be self-evident. Well, unless you really believe the trash that is reported through mainstream sources about how "great" life is in Communist countries. Then, sure, everyone is having a real ball. Just move on over to same-as-any-other-government-Cuba and try protesting government policy on the streets (or even in print). Try parading around signs with Castro portrayed as the devil or a Nazi and "We Hate Castro" on them. I'm sure the police will protect your right to protest and you'll be provided fair legal counsel in the event your actions are, mistakenly of course, considered illegal. Then we can all climb aboard a magic starship to Jupiter and enjoy tea and biscuits with Aleister Crowley, Mother Teresa, John Lennon, and Genghis Khan.

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posted April 10, 2007 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
China's Execution Buses

Chilling new evidence has arisen that execution buses are being used by the chinese govt,the video tells the whole story on the country that is the execution capital of the world

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posted April 10, 2007 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Communism is very radical, but it is more moderate cousin Socialism that I really have no problem with. Or atleast I'm speaking of the socialism thta helped my neighbors to the West prosper through much of the 60's,70's, and 80's. *And the socialism that is helping my home country to prosper again, and also the socialism that gave Iraqis free medical care prior to the U.S. invasion.

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posted April 11, 2007 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah DL, who could forget the beneficence of Saddam Hussein?

His citizens had the right to be raped, tortured and murdered...tortured and/or murdered in a surprising variety of ways. Good thing Saddam provided free health care.

Of course, Saddam was a Stalinist and modeled his government along the same lines as the Soviet Union.

You must also be a big fan of the Soviet Union..now expired and also Castro's Cuba and why not North Korea too? After all, they all have/had "free health care". Socialists one and all...as was Hitler.

I don't know where people get the nonsense idea that the government owes citizens health care, food, clothing, shelter and all the things citizens should be providing for themselves. I also don't know who these drones in our societies think should be paying for their free services.

The world is a big place. Sometimes I wonder why socialists wind up in the belly of the beast of capitalism where it seems quite normal to most of us that we are to provide for ourselves.

Yeah Eleanore, communist China, the former Soviet Union, Saddam, Mao, Ho, Castro, Stalin and the father/son tag team of Kim Jong Il and his father were great at killing people. All you had/have to do to qualify is to disagree. How nice, China executes people for their body parts.

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posted April 11, 2007 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The nonsense liberals believe
Posted: April 11, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Many years ago, I read Eric Hoffers's book, "The True Believer." In the course of which, Mr. Hoffer suggested that although you might think that Communists and Fascists were polar opposites, their similarities were far greater than their differences. He was referring to the psychological makeup of their respective followers. At the time, being a very young man, I'm not sure I grasped how wise he was.

It was a truth that I discovered for myself between the years of 1987 and 1991, when I served two terms on the board of directors of the Writer's Guild of America. All told, there were 19 of us – three officers and 16 directors – of whom at least five had been blacklisted back in the 1950s. These were writers who'd been Communists during the '30s and '40s. That meant that they had opposed America's intervention in World War II during the two years of the Stalin-Hitler non-aggression pact – years during which Germany had ridden roughshod over the rest of Europe. But once the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, these American Reds became downright bellicose.

The reason I bring up this bit of ancient history is because, psychologically, these ex-Communists hadn't really changed in half a century. Only instead of taking their marching orders from Joseph Stalin, they were now taking them from the tyrannical executive director of the Guild. Unable to think for themselves, they required a strong man to follow. And, like little ducks, follow him they did. In four years, they never disagreed with any of his edicts; and inevitably they voted as a bloc.

In the years since then, I have found this to always be the case with leftists. Although they no longer identify themselves as Communists, preferring to be called liberals or progressives, they still subscribe to groupthink. They are always in lockstep.

I'm not certain who it is who determines the liberal agenda, but once the decision has been made, they ask no questions, content to simply parrot the party line. And those who are immune to Big Brother are attacked as racists, Fascists, xenophobes, homophobes and warmongers.

Liberals, for instance, will all sing the same tune when it comes to gun ownership, global warming, bilingual education, same-sex marriages, open borders, amnesty for illegal aliens, abortion on demand and dual citizenship.

Liberals believe that "separation of church and state" actually appears somewhere in the Constitution. They can also be counted on to misquote the Ten Commandments to bolster their case against capital punishment. And they believe that war is not a last resort, but is, in fact, never justified.

When it comes to politicians, they cut conservatives no slack whatsoever, demanding that the heads of Tom DeLay, Mark Foley and Trent Lott be lopped off and exhibited on pikes. But when it comes to creeps and chiselers like John Murtha, William Jefferson and Harry Reid, they reward them with positions of power and influence.

Have you ever heard of one liberal taking another to task for a misdeed? No, neither have I. In fact, the only time a Democrat tells the truth about a fellow liberal is when they're both running for president.

Conservatives, on the other hand, have crossed swords with President Bush over any number of things, ranging from the way he's waged war in Iraq to his attempts to disguise amnesty for illegal aliens as a work program, from the way he pronounces words to the way he keeps calling Islam a religion of peace.

I'm afraid that not only could I never be a liberal, but I could never really respect anyone who's too lazy or stupid to think for himself. I can't even imagine swallowing a tenth of the bilge that people like Nancy Pelosi and Robert Byrd spoon-feed their constituents on a daily basis. Frankly, I'd find it far easier to believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, or a rumor that Ted Kennedy had sworn off booze.
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Dulce Luna
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posted April 11, 2007 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah DL, who could forget the beneficence of Saddam Hussein?
His citizens had the right to be raped, tortured and murdered...tortured and/or murdered in a surprising variety of ways. Good thing Saddam provided free health care.

Thanks for not being objective once again. I was only speaking of the benefits of that gov't....not Saddam Hussein. And yes, there were great benefits that came from that gov't that are now gone. The only thing bad about the gov't was Saddam himself (and his top men) and the dispicable things he did to stay in power.

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Of course, Saddam was a Stalinist and modeled his government along the same lines as the Soviet Union.

You must also be a big fan of the Soviet Union..now expired and also Castro's Cuba and why not North Korea too? After all, they all have/had "free health care". Socialists one and all...as was Hitler.


You know, no matter what you say there is a big difference between socialism and communism. I already stressed that in my post that while I am not a fan of communism ,as it is just the opposite of extreme Capitalism, I have absolutely no problem with socialism as it is more moderate and it has worked. While the basic needs are not capitalized; people are still free to make their own living under it, are free to follow their dreams, and what have you. Why are you twisting things around in order to provoke me?

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I don't know where people get the nonsense idea that the government owes citizens health care, food, clothing, shelter and all the things citizens should be providing for themselves. I also don't know who these drones in our societies think should be paying for their free services.

Because if the gov't doesn't provide the basic needs of the people, then there goes your nation. It is reeeeally simple logic: no people=no nation. I don't really care what your belief is but mine is that basic needs of the community should not be capitalized to the extreme (like healthcare and schooling) because that is not what is best for the nation. And I just don't believe in doing such things as a Christian and even as a Mocambican/East African. Because in my culture, we are not only concerned about ourselves as the individuals but also our clans (which are huge) and our community as a whole. I know that it is different for U.S./Western Culture which is heavily individualistic, but my culture is very different.

And no, Socialism does not make EVERYTHING free (I made sure to press my gramps on this) but Basic things are made free for the benefit of the people and therefore the nation (like healthcare, and going to school).Everything else is up to the market.

The other reason I have no problem with it is that socialism is what worked for most African Nations after Independence from European Rule in the 60's, 70's, and 80's before the corruption took hold. It benefited the economy of Zambia so much that by the 80's, the Quacha was kicking the U.S. dollar's a$$ (1 Quacha=2 U.S. Dollars). We chose that government because as most of us were poor after European rule, it was what would work best for us. (Mocambique was initially Socialist but then Frelimo wanted to adopt more and more Communist Values....now it is back to being Socialist).

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The world is a big place. Sometimes I wonder why socialists wind up in the belly of the beast of capitalism where it seems quite normal to most of us that we are to provide for ourselves.

Now, where did I ever say I had a BIG problem with Capitalism? I only said that I have no problem with Socialism because it is what worked for the Economies of many other nations in the past. Don't worry JWhop, I have no "evil" plans to turn America into a Socialist nation. I don't have the man power or the time on my hands to do so.

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posted April 11, 2007 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can understand the government being responsible for health care, education, food, shelter, etc. up to a point. That is to say, I believe that for people who are in need there should be a source of help available to them even if it is from the government. Philanthropic activities, however, are more in keeping with my personal idea of truly helping our neighbors (ie, that's just my opinion). Wouldn't it be nice if all those who had more than "enough" simply chose to share and all those who had less not only accepted "charity" but then strove to pull themselves into a position of less need? (Notice the "all" ... I realize there are many well off people who do share and many not so well off people who do strive to better their lives whether or not they "succeed" in anyone else's eyes.)

The welfare system, though, is sorely lacking. As it stands today, there are people easily abusing the system without effort to better their own lives while there are other needy people who don't "qualify" for help. The system needs a complete revision.

However, I am very, very wary of any system placed entirely in the hands of the government. Look at public education in the US. The system is trash. If private schools and home schooling were not allowed ... I don't even want to imagine it. Yes, the cost/time constraints can be prohibitive but at least the option is available. Otherwise, the government would have complete control over what every child learns at school. I don't know about you but I am NOT comfortable with any government having that much power. It just takes a few greedy, sick people to abuse a system like that to the great detriment of any nation's citizens.

Same for health care. The opportunities for corruption are endless if the power were to be turned over entirely to the government. As it is, insurance companies are already the bane of many people's existences. But what if the government decided the grade of health care with which you could be provided (forget about new procedures that could save your life, you'll have to settle for what the gov. prescribes) ... the kind of treatments approved (say goodbye to alternative medicine for good) ... what treatment you needed whether or not you really wanted it, etc.? Not every country might fall to such corruption but how easy it would be to turn an idealistic dream into a nightmare!

A capitalistic economy may not be the best possible system but it grants opportunities for constant innovation. With a government like ours at present, we at least have the chance to take our issues with corruption up on legal terms and to voice our discontent as blatantly as we wish.

Certainly, innovations in any field may initially be very expensive. But supply will eventually meet demand and prices will decrease as production costs are met with greater ease. Yes, there are greedy people who will try to cheat others out of every nickel and dime.

Greed does not exist solely in capitalistic economies.

No system of governance and no economic system will be free from greed and abuse as long as there are people who desire to be greedy and abuse others. There is no legalistic panacea for the problems facing the world at large today. Making something legal or illegal doesn't guarantee that people will or will not do said thing. Even enforcing laws and punishments does not guarantee that people will not break those laws. Laws are merely deterrents to some of the nasty things people choose to do, including the people who make and/or are supposed to enforce those laws.

In the end, humanity will continue to suffer at the hands of evil/greedy/selfish/etc. humans regardless of laws and systems as long as people, as individuals and of their own volition, refuse to change for the better.

And then, of course, there is the deciding of what is "truly better".


*Not ranting at anyone here, just at the ideas of communism versus socialism and so forth.

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posted April 11, 2007 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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However, I am very, very wary of any system placed entirely in the hands of the government. Look at public education in the US. The system is trash. If private schools and home schooling were not allowed ... I don't even want to imagine it. Yes, the cost/time constraints can be prohibitive but at least the option is available.

The homeschooling option has also been availabe in the past for most those gov'ts I mentioned above for those who could afford it.[*edit* The free schooling was made available in the first place because most people were too poor to pay for schooling (whether at home or in an institution).*edit*] And no, the school system there hasn't been as you deem it to be. The gov't never brainwashed the people. I was speaking of nations such as Zambia and Mozambique, not Russia nor North Korea.

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Greed does not exist solely in capitalistic economies.


And I never said that.


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No system of governance and no economic system will be free from greed and abuse as long as there are people who desire to be greedy and abuse others.

Exactly, and that goes not only for communism and socialism, but Capitalism as well.

I merely said that I had no problem with socialism because of the end results it produced back when there was no corruption. I never said that every nation should adopt it. I am very pragmatic: what works best for one guy may not be the best for another. We adopted Socialism because it was what worked for us (and still does). America has adopted Capitalism because it is what apparently works for them. We did not adopt complete Capitalism because given our financial state immediately after independence; it really wasn't an option for us.

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posted April 11, 2007 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know you didn't say that, DulceLuna. That's one of the reasons why I said I wasn't ranting at anyone here. I didn't mean my post to be directed at you. I just used the previous posts as a springboard.

And, yes, I was including capitalism in my generalized comments. I don't believe in a "perfect" man made system.

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posted April 11, 2007 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, I'm sorry! I was just commenting on what you wrote. It was not meant to attack.

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It's true there are plenty of poor or low-income people in the US struggling to make ends meet. The difference is that the US allows you the freedoms and the opportunities to change that in many more ways than any Communist country ever would.

In the past I would have agreed with what you stated here, Eleanore. I see that you are still sold on the American dream. There was a time when what you and I believed was very true. But that time no longer exists.

People who attend college now, put out all that money for an education, spend all that time studying now earn $35,000 a year tops. My husband started out with more annual salary than that and by the time he retired he was earning $65,000 a year and more with a very good benefits package in the bargain.

Why? Because now corporations are completely controlling governments and the world. Profit for corporations is where it is at today and they do not want to pay their employees or provide benefits for those employees. If they could get away with it they would have strictly slave labor.

The system is now designed strictly for exploitation of the working class people and it is structured so as they never get ahead. As long as people are struggling constantly to make ends meet in pursuit of the false image of the "American Dream" that is sold to them by the governments of the world, the coporations will continue to make more and more profit and continue to run the world.

That is the reality. The American Dream is dead. The Military/Industial Complex is thriving and doing very well. If things continue as they are the corporations will succeed in their own version of the American dream and have entirely slave labor. People will continue to die in wars designed to advance corporate control in the world.

Saying this does not mean that I hate America. It means I deal in the realities of life and do not buy into the false illusions of the past or the present. It means that I want to work to make sure that all people, world wide, actually do have a chance and the opportunites to change their lives and live free and as happy as they can pursuing their dreams and goals. I want a better future for everyone in the world. That is not the way the world is being formed to be as things are now.

I like that illusion of the American dream very much. Would like to see it become a reality.

As it is now, I stand by what I said, there is no system of government in the world be it communism or any other "ISM" that is any different. It is all designed to keep the working class citizens down while the aristocracy thrives. In fact, I think that it probably always was like that to a degree. Which is why there have always been revolutions in the world of the working class dating back even before Marie Antionette said, " Let them eat cake!" and lost her head for the comment.

edited to add that last part.

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spend all that time studying now earn $35,000 a year tops.

That's not really true - I think it largely depends on what you major in and where you live. Everyone I know out of college earned that or more to start, and is now earning at least 50% more than that.

I didn't even graduate college and I was making about 30% more than that before I was 30.

It also depends largely on where you live. In Omaha, that's a damn good salary. In the Bay Area, you'd prolly need just that to get by.

I think if anything is getting in the way of the American Dream, it's the cost of housing in relation to income, and people's desire to have everything right now, even if that means racking up massive credit card debt to do it.

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