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Topic: Whose Troops DO democrats Support?
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jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
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posted March 29, 2007 01:55 PM
  
And leftist democrats wonder why large numbers of American DO question their patriotism."'We support the troops' – but which ones?
Posted: March 29, 2007
Craige McMillan
1:00 a.m. Eastern" "We support the troops" – Democrat party elected officials Let's unpack that phrase and take a look at how Democrats are supporting the troops. We'll remove the fancy wrapper, take the words out of the box and see what's left inside when we're finished. We need to start by asking what, specifically, does it mean to "support the troops"? Put another way, how do a person's actions reinforce what he or she says? Does "supporting the troops" mean Democrat elected officials have spoken out vigorously and angrily against the mob of anarchists in Portland, Ore., that burned a U.S. soldier in effigy in the city's downtown? Because I haven't seen either Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi remove a shoe and pound its high heel on the podium, condemning the anarchists' behavior. Does "supporting the troops" mean giving our terrorist enemy the promise: "Just hold on another six months or so. We have already decided to withdraw our troops." Perhaps "supporting the troops" means denying them the money for bullets on the front line by loading up a military appropriations bill with pork payoffs for Democrat contributors – then daring the Republican President to veto it. Maybe "supporting the troops" means telling American men and women under arms: "Which of you poor, uneducated fools who didn't study hard enough and as a consequence ended up in Iraq – which of you wants to be the last person to die for America over in Iraq or Afghanistan?" That's how at least one Democrat senator feels about it. Or could "supporting the troops" mean ignoring a published declaration of war by a hostile foreign power, ignoring a series of increasingly lethal attacks against our troops overseas over the course of three presidential administrations and ignoring the attempted murder of over 50,000 Americans working in the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, the U.S. Capitol building and the White House?
Of course, there is another possibility. Maybe the Democrat politicians and their no-war-no-matter-what supporters really don't support the troops. Maybe Democrat politicians are liars, individuals who say they "support the troops" in front of the American families who contributed the fathers and mothers and sons and daughters now in Iraq and Afghanistan (so we could fight the war over there instead of inside American shopping malls) – but behind these families' backs these same Democrats are undermining the troops with the goal of forcing a humiliating and costly defeat on America. So I wonder: Are these Democrats principled individuals who disagree with the war and aren't afraid to stand up and say so? Or are they unprincipled individuals whose lust for power has made them seditious and even treasonous in their behavior toward America and the troops they "support"? When these Democrat politicians say they "support the troops," are they in fact talking about American troops – or the troops on the other side of the war? Just whose troops are the Democrats supporting?
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Eleanore
Moderator Posts: 112
From: Okinawa, Japan
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 30, 2007 09:38 AM
Having been around a number of troops for a few years now, I can say from personal experience that saying, "I support the troops but am against this war" does not sit favorably with the overwhelming majority of them that I've known. The whole attitude of bringing them home so they're not slaughtered is rather insulting. Like they're ignorant people who accidentally joined the military and are now afraid of what they've gotten themselves into. They are not. I can't say I've talked to many troops who are gung-ho about fighting/killing/dying in any war. No one I've spoken with is saying, "I can't wait to kill/die." But they do accept that they made the choice to join and are willing to follow through. Even regardless of the different opinions/theories a few of them have about how the war began or why it began, they are very much about completing the mission and restoring Iraq. All of the troops I've known who have fought in Iraq already volunteered from their units to do so. It's just an underhanded insult to tell someone that you support them in general but that you think what they've chosen to do with their lives is a waste of time and/or evil. "We support our troops" followed by "Bush is a murderer" rather reflects most insultingly on the troops because they are the ones actually killing people.
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Does "supporting the troops" mean giving our terrorist enemy the promise: "Just hold on another six months or so. We have already decided to withdraw our troops." Perhaps "supporting the troops" means denying them the money for bullets on the front line by loading up a military appropriations bill with pork payoffs for Democrat contributors – then daring the Republican President to veto it. Maybe "supporting the troops" means telling American men and women under arms: "Which of you poor, uneducated fools who didn't study hard enough and as a consequence ended up in Iraq
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BlueRoamer
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posted March 30, 2007 02:18 PM
Do you think there's any merit to this claim:Many people who would volunteer to go to a place far away, that is not directly attacking the US, to shoot and kill people, is most likely a person that just wants to murder people legally? IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted March 30, 2007 04:01 PM
BlueRoamer,
Another way of looking at it, for sure...
Why?
there would be alot of reasons, but I would
not assume the worst one, for I would try to
understand from all the angles, but in a
circle, cycle of incarnations, which caused
karma...and balancing being needed,
for everything happens for a reason. ...Until we master ourSelves, and forgive all,
this karmic cycle, this wheel, will keep
on turning, and every action, will have a re-
Action, til all is balanced.... Sounds like alot of work to me....
and it starts with each individual...
wanting to create a better Place..
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BlueRoamer
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posted March 30, 2007 04:18 PM
How does wanting to kill people make the world a better place?Doesn't forgiveness kind of imply refraining from murder? IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted March 30, 2007 04:31 PM
Karma, The Universal God Laws, are immutable...
Until forgiveness, stops the cycle...Unconditional LOve, reverence for ALL..
Healing, MasterShip...I, I Captain! to IP: Logged |
jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 2787
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 31, 2007 12:26 AM
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Do you think there's any merit to this claim:Many people who would volunteer to go to a place far away, that is not directly attacking the US, to shoot and kill people, is most likely a person that just wants to murder people legally?BlueRoamer
No BlueRoamer, I don't think your statement has any merit...unless you can provide some proof otherwise. I do think however there are people with their head up their ass who would assert that as a general military mindset and not the rare exception. People who would make those kinds of comments are exactly the kind of people I would snatch off the streets of America and send them straight to basic training where a drill instructor would teach them the errors of their ways...in every way. Then they could go serve their country. It might even make a man out of them. Hey, stranger things have happened so they're not totally hopeless cases. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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posted March 31, 2007 01:49 AM
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Eleanore
Moderator Posts: 112
From: Okinawa, Japan
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posted March 31, 2007 07:30 AM
BlueRoamerAnybody "volunteering" to shoot and kill people anywhere might want to just murder people, legally or not. However, members of the official military of any nation who volunteer to do their jobs in the middle of an established conflict? No, I don't think so. The troops didn't decide whether this war was legitimate or not. They serve their country to defend it in any time of conflict. Also, not all troops are involved in combat. There are many serving overseas as doctors, nurses, chaplains, and other career fields that don't actually engage in conflict themselves. Could they be pegged as trigger happy murderers, too? Again, I don't think so. It's just an unrealistic statement. It doesn't really get under my skin that people think military members are murderers. I think they're wrong but that's my belief. What does get ridiculous and annoying is saying that you support the troops while at the same time suggesting, however indirectly, that they are murderers. I understand that a lot of these people don't want to offend the troops and just want them not to die. That's an admirable feeling. But degrading their chosen duties in this life, their morals, and whether or not their sacrifices were at all worth it is really not the way to keep from offending them. Well, so they've told me, anyway.  IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted March 31, 2007 12:20 PM
Troops-Soldiers, are to be commended, for their choice, any involved in the military, is there to protect all of the rest of Us, that takes a very special, brave person, one willing to risk their life for what is wrong, to bring Justice..
right the wrongs...Duty...everyone has One! Life purpose...where our karma led us to, in
this incarnation... We must support our Troops, for a positive outcome...
the minute we pull out, nuclear war, will
most likely break out there, that is what I see
happening...something to think about... U.S. Military = Saving Planet Earth my two cents 
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