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neptune5
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posted April 11, 2007 07:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the king of radio tv, don imus, is no longer on MSNBC, i feel that it's half just, because at the same time, his show is meant to be satire on politics and society, so i can understand why he makes his statments, but they were wrong. So.

how do you feel?

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 11, 2007 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah he made some pretty offensive comments but for some reason I don't think he meant to be racist, I think he seriously just stuck his foot in his mouth. The scenario I'm thinking of in my head is that he probably heard other (black) commedians or commentators using such terms (which they have) and thought it would be funny if he did too.

I thought he definitely should've been held accountable but I honestly don't know if he should've been fired.

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peace
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posted April 12, 2007 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is the wrong place to post this question, but has anyone found his birth chart online? All I know is his birthday

Don Imus
7/23/1940

Sun :Leo
Moon :Pisces (According to Relationship Signs)
Asc: ?

IMHO,he seems more like an Aries Moon,Leo Asc.


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lalalinda
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posted April 12, 2007 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doesn't this remind you of a bad Pluto transit?

If he has his Moon in Pisces (maybe 6th or 10th?) could it be a Uranus transit? (it was kind of out of the blue)
Perhaps something from the 3rd? (airwaves)

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Isis
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posted April 13, 2007 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel sorry for the guy. He's a shock jock. That's what he does. Shock. And the hypocrisy of some who criticize his comments but say nothing about rap lyrics. When 50 cent says it, it's ok, but when Don Imus says it...it's "reprehensible".

Everyone's getting their panties in a bind, if it weren't so laughable it would be pathetic.

What is pathetic is that he lost his job over this. No doubt satellite radio or someone will pick him up. I read that he brought in something like 15 million a year for CBS.

I wonder if P&G and the other sponsors will be pulling their ads from BET, MTV and VH1 because they run music videos that say the very same things...I won't hold my breath.


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Dulce Luna
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posted April 13, 2007 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Isis, because its really pathetic that people are getting their panties in a bunch over something as small as a racist and sexist slur. I mean, its no big deal since he did single out an entire basketball team; none of whom fit that stereotype.

Sweetie, why don't you get a grip!

*edit*And no, I'm not defendIng any of what the HipHop world does either; in fact I've been very critical of what Rap Music does these days (I don't even listen to alot of it anymore). It is true that what he said is offensive coming from anyone's mouth but please do not try to minimize what he's done as if its no big deal.

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posted April 13, 2007 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, when is Hillary going to give the $800,000 campaign contribution from the rap record executive back? It is that industry which uses the very same words in recordings that has Hillary exercised. Oh but not to worry, Hillary is going to Rutgers in a political stunt to show her support for the girls on the basketball team.

And exactly who the hell did the left trot out to excoriate Imus? Who exactly is branding Imus as a racist whose remarks are over the line? None other than two of the most racist so called reverrrrrends in America.

Who could forget the reverrrrrend Jesse Jackson's remarks about Hymietown? And who could forget the Tawana Brawley hoax perpetrated by reverrrrend Al Sharpton?

Oh, not to be forgotten either is that both of these jerk racists were in the forefront of the Duke Lacrosse rape case where they daily excoriated the 3 white Duke lacrosse players accused of rape of a black stripper...now cleared completely of any wrong doing. Perhaps after spending millions for attorneys to defend them against those false charges, the families will insist...in a court of law they be compensated by the two reverrrrrends and an out of control district attorney...not to mention the racists on the Duke faculty and administration who wrecked their athletic careers and interrupted their education.

Imus is a jerk I wouldn't listen to for 10 seconds...a leftist jerk who gave his show over to every writer of left wing drivel, whose plugs on his show made left wing writers careers, whose interviews of left-wing drivel meisters gave them a platform for spewing their nonsense. The proper place for this to have been settled is in a court of law with the Rutgers girls suing the hell out of Imus.

But, for Imus to be judged by the chorus of leftist hypocrites and racists for his remarks is some of the grossest hypocrisy I've seen. At least Imus apologized...over and over but don't hold your breath waiting for the racist reverrrrends to apologize for their racist remarks...and actions.

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 13, 2007 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I agree that the good old Reverend Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are pretty much a joke as one (Sharpton) is probably more concerned about his hair then the African-American Community, and the other....no comment.

But besides that; why is this degenerating into left wing-right wing bullsh%t?? This is not about the two Reverends, it is strictly about a very offensive comment made about a basketball team. I, myself, don't know if Imus should've been fired over it but lets stick to the topic, ok?


And even so, it was actually the Association of Black Journalists who first protested this and called for him to be fired. The two Reverends just jumped on the bandwagon and decided to hog the spotlight as usual (you gotta love politicians).

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Isis
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posted April 13, 2007 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not your sweetie, and I don't appreciate your condescending sentiment. I expressed my opinion - you don't like it, keep your bitchy lil comments to yourself. People like you cry that people are "mean" and belitting in GU, yet here you are pulling the exact same **** . Surprise surprise...

I've heard much worse in the media. Perhaps you need to "get a grip" - it was what is referred to as an elderly white man trying to be humorous by mimicking a certain element in the black community. Ergo - A Joke.

And it's just another example of some people's hypocrisy that they'll jump all over this yet have nothing to say about the myraid of other examples, perpetrated by whites AND BLACKS (and every other color under the sun) in the media.

I have no idea what Imus' political position is, but I find it laughable that the "It was JUST a freakin' blow job!" crowd are all up in arms about this.

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 13, 2007 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm not your sweetie, and I don't appreciate your condescending sentiment. I expressed my opinion - you don't like it, keep your bitchy lil comments to yourself.

And if you don't want to hear my "bitchy" comments then maybe you shouldn't suggest that people are pathetic for finding offensive stuff...well, offensive. You dish it out, your gonna get it back.

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People like you cry that people are "mean" and belitting in GU, yet here you are pulling the exact same **** . Surprise surprise...

Wrong again. Where have I ever whined about the hostility in GU? I may have said that people have done some pretty offensive stuff (bigotedly/xenophobically) but that is all. I've never said anything about the "climate" here because I am aware that I have contributed to it.

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I've heard much worse in the media. Perhaps you need to "get a grip" - it was what is referred to as an elderly white man trying to be humorous by mimicking a certain element in the black community. Ergo - A Joke.

Yeah, something I've already addressed in my first post. I personally don't believe that Imus was trying to be racist either. But even so, that still doesn't make the remarks any less offensive as I see you are trying to do.

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I have no idea what Imus' political position is, but I find it laughable that the "It was JUST a freakin' blow job!" crowd are all up in arms about this.

And who's that?

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Isis
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posted April 13, 2007 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't call anyone pathetic - work on your reading comprehension. Good attempt at trying to find something I said to justify your bitchy comments, but no cigar.

"Everyone's getting their panties in a bind, if it weren't so laughable it would be pathetic."

Translation for DL:
The situation (of everyone getting their panties in a bind) would be pathetic if it weren't laughable. (Not the people, the situation.)


"What is pathetic is that he lost his job over this. "

Translation for DL:
It's pathetic he lost his job over this.

Where did I say people are pathetic? See, I go out of my way to not say things that invite bitchy lil comments back, cause I really don't want to bicker with strangers on the internet.

So now what's your excuse? Someone peed in your cherios this morning? Oh, no someone expressed an opinion contrary to yours. Sorry, for a moment I must have forgotten that's how it works here...silly me...

Edited to add: My comments had nothing to do with you. They were directed at the situation. I wasn't commenting on anything you said. Before lashing out you might want to clarify who the poster is directing their post at.

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 13, 2007 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My reading comprehension skills are just fine, thank you. But perhaps you need to make yourself a little more clearer next time and learn to articulate, Goddammit.

And no, your use of the word pathetic was not the only reason for my comment earlier this morning. It was also the fact that his comment is really not offensive at all and that it was no big deal just because they may have been used by other blacks. Well here's a newflash for you: they are offensive coming from anyone's mouth and Don Imus is no exception.

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Isis
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posted April 13, 2007 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't we just cut to the chase DL?


Your opinion is stupid, and therefore you are stupid!

No, you are!

Nuh-uh, only my opinion is valid! How dare you state your opinion when it's contrary to mine, you need to get a grip moron!

B@tch!

B@tch!

There, is that what you're looking for?

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 13, 2007 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm, not even close. Just stop trying to make it look like people are getting worked up over nothing.

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Isis
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posted April 13, 2007 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umm...but it is my opinion that people are getting worked up over nothing...

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 13, 2007 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it isn't just nothing and that is a fact. Those comments were very offensive. I don't want to speculate on whatever race you are, but if you're not black then I guess you wouldn't understand.

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Isis
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posted April 13, 2007 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not a fact. It's subjective, as is evidenced by the fact that I'm not offended. Offense is extremely subjective. I'm sorry you're offended, I can respect that, can you not respect that I'm not offended.

Man, people really need to work on what constitutes "fact".

BTW: Stevie Wonder uses the phrase "nappy headed" in the song "I Wish" ...we should boycott his records!

Hell, Santa Claus (who I'd like to point out is white) is reputed to say the word "ho" repeatedly.... He's taunting the african american community - "ho ho HO!" Let's fire him too!

And that's to say nothing of the myriad of rappers who routinely use the word "ho". Let's call the record companies and demand that they're fired too!

Hell, let's fire everyone!!!!!

In a Donald Trump voice: "You're fired!"

Edited to add: My race is irrelevant, however I am a woman, and therefore I should be offended by the use of the term 'ho'. Yet I'm not. Wow, there must be something wrong with me!!!!

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 13, 2007 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's not a fact. It's subjective, as is evidenced by the fact that I'm not offended. Offense is extremely subjective. I'm sorry you're offended, I can respect that, can you not respect that I'm not offended.

Well now that I brought up the subject; what is your race?

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BTW: Stevie Wonder uses the phrase "nappy headed" in the song "I Wish" ...we should boycott his records!

Yeah, and in what context did he use the phrase?

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Hell, Santa Claus (who I'd like to point out is white) is reputed to say the word "ho" repeatedly.... He's taunting the african american community - "ho ho HO!" Let's fire him too!

Hello? Once again....the context is important. How was Santa Claus using the word Ho? Was he using to refer to women in such a derogatory way, or did he mean something COMPLETELY different? Please do not make me laugh!

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And that's to say nothing of the myriad of rappers who routinely use the word "ho". Let's call the record companies and demand that they're fired too!

Hell, let's fire everyone!!!!!


And yes, I do agree with you on the "Rap" agrument. I do agree that there are some celebrities who really shouldn't be talking. However, I never said I agreed with Mr.Imus getting fired. In fact, I would've been fine if he had just met with the girls and got the 2 week suspension to think about what he did. Because I honestly believe he is remorseful. The Rutgers ladies forgave him, and that's what matters to me.

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Isis
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posted April 13, 2007 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I read that today about the Rutgers team forgiving his comments, and if they can forgive them, I don't see why everyone else can't (including CBS) ...

(And the Santa thing was a joke...)

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Well in my opinion, i felt like they made a huge mistake, because there were men on the radio that said much worse things than Imus said and they didn't get fired. And personally I loved his show, its satire, and i really don't think people should be offended by it because it is satire. Thats the reason why he's on air is to give 'satire'. The whole thing just upsets me, and i'm not defending him, but he is an individual, and our constitution is built on top of freedom of speech, we don't need to turn into another Russia.

So,...oh and dulce luna & isis, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, its the justification to their right as an individual, so just drop your little arguement, both of you.

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Isis
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posted April 13, 2007 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL neptune, we're fine.

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 13, 2007 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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(And the Santa thing was a joke...)


Ohhhh.


And yes, I do agree that CBS and NBC should've been a little less harsh as he was remorseful. I mean, his targets (the Rutgers Girls) were much more merciful.

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posted April 14, 2007 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But besides that; why is this degenerating into left wing-right wing bullsh%t?? This is not about the two Reverends, it is strictly about a very offensive comment made about a basketball team. I, myself, don't know if Imus should've been fired over it but lets stick to the topic, ok?......DL

Wrong DL, couldn't be more wrong. This is entirely a political left affair and it's an exercise in the usual blatant leftist hypocrisy. Imus is a leftist voice who gives/gave other leftists a platform to reach an audience they don't usually get to address. Media Matters is leftist...far far far left, the 2 reverrrrends are both leftists to the core. The leftist press, though initially unimpressed, later picked up this story and spread it like wildfire.

You don't get to decide what I will say or not say DL. Ditch that thought immediately.


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And even so, it was actually the Association of Black Journalists who first protested this and called for him to be fired. The two Reverends just jumped on the bandwagon and decided to hog the spotlight as usual (you gotta love politicians)....DL

Wrong again DL. It was the leftist organization Media Matters...organized and funded by the communist George Soros who monitored the Imus show...and many others who started this jihad against Imus and spread it to newspapers and other leftist organizations directly by press releases early on...like within hours. This tactic is intended to shut down talk radio through the reapplication of the so called "Fairness Doctrine". The left cannot compete on talk radio as has been proven by every leftist who started a radio broadcast program...including their latest demised failure..."Air America".

It's also noteworthy to see who is trying to shut people up. It's not "liberals" and it's not "conservatives". It's the far left radical socialists/communists/Marxists/Maoists..like George Soros, Media Matters and the 2 tacky, hypocritical leftist reverrrrends who are always in the forefront of attempting to limit free speech. Liberals and Conservatives would say "let the market take care of those who offend". Sponsors and consumers decide....or sue and let the courts decide if you've been libeled or slandered.

Let me suggest you get your facts straight.

"Ryan Chiachiere was. A 26-year-old researcher in Washington, D.C., for liberal watchdog organization Media Matters for America, he was assigned to monitor Mr. Imus's program. Mr. Chiachiere clipped the video, alerted his bosses and started working on a blog post for the organization's Web site."

"On the morning of the original broadcast, there was little response to Mr. Imus's slur. Media Matters posted the video and transcript on its Web site and sent an email blast to several hundred reporters, as it does nearly every day. The post received dozens of comments, many heated, some more than 300 words long. The next day, top news outlets didn't mention the incident."

"On Thursday, at about 3 p.m., NBC News President Steve Capus was conducting a routine planning meeting in his third-floor offices at Rockefeller Center when an assistant interrupted him to take an urgent phone call, according to a person at the meeting. On the other line: MSNBC General Manager Dan Abrams. Mr. Abrams said MSNBC executives were fielding complaints from viewers and employees who had seen a video clip of Mr. Imus's remark on the Media Matters site, this person says."

"The group is a Web-based nonprofit organization devoted to
monitoring "conservative misinformation" in print, broadcast, cable, radio and Internet media outlets. It frequently complains about Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly. Although the Imus show isn't generally considered conservative, some of its guests are."

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB117641076468168 180-7y8vXi_eMhvWtEoPiK397ZUoIBc_20070513.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top

This was an entirely left on left affair and there are some on the left who are very concerned one of their reliable leftist outlets has bitten the dust. It wasn't Republicans or Conservatives calling for Imus to be fired. But the radical leftists were willing to sacrifice one of their own to get an issue put forward with which to attack talk radio which is dominated by conservatives. And talk radio is dominated by conservatives because no one will listen to the screeching, ranting, pants wetting leftists who have tried to make inroads into talk radio. The goal is now to shut talk radio down completely through the so called "Fairness Doctrine".

Imus Demise Creates 'Vacuum' for Dems

"Some Democratic strategists are reportedly worried about how to fill the void left by the demise of "Imus in the Morning.” For getting to a national radio audience of white men, Democrats see few if any alternatives, reports the LA Times."
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/4/14/93515.shtml?s=ic

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Dulce Luna
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posted April 14, 2007 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wrong again DL. It was the leftist organization Media Matters...organized and funded by the communist George Soros who monitored the Imus show...and many others who started this jihad against Imus and spread it to newspapers and other leftist organizations directly by press releases early on...like within hours. This tactic is intended to shut down talk radio through the reapplication of the so called "Fairness Doctrine". The left cannot compete on talk radio as has been proven by every leftist who started a radio broadcast program...including their latest demised failure..."Air America".

OoOoOo, my bad then. Because I remember hearing it was the Association of Black Journalists who voiced their outrage before the two Reverends jumped on the bandwagon.


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You don't get to decide what I will say or not say DL. Ditch that thought immediately

You're absolutely right. But ask yourself this: Could go a day without mentioning the word leftist? Or scratch that: could you go even 5 minutes without doing that? Do even know how to spell the word reverend?

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posted April 14, 2007 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is entirely a leftist affair DL. It's a leftist political lynching with a leftist agenda led by a far left radical group, Media Matters and a couple of leftist political activists..the 2 reverrrrends.

When Jackson and Sharpton start acting like Christian ministers instead of agenda driven political activists, I'll use the proper and appropriate designation.

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