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jwhop
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posted August 09, 2007 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's hard sometimes to decide whether Hillary Clinton is totally cynical or whether Hillary's memory has flamed out.

Hillary is now going after the Chinese..for selling the US tainted food and unsafe toys...along with a hell of a lot of other stuff.

But the Clinton's owe their political careers to the Communist Chinese...both from the Arkansas era and their disastrous stint in the White House.

The Chinese have been among the Clinton's largest campaign contributors if not the largest contributor over the years. By the way, it is a federal crime for office seekers to accept campaign contributions from foreign governments. No doubt that has something to do with the fact that Americans feel they should elect whom they wish and foreign governments should have NO INFLUENCE on whom is elected to high offices of the United States. How backward eh?

On the one hand we have Hillary forgetting where she stashed her Rose Law Firm billing records...while they were under a subpoena to produce them by a federal special prosecutor. Turns out those records were found on a table in the foyer leading to the private quarters of the White House. Hillary walked right by those records multiple times daily for about 2 years. Hillary is perhaps too blind to be President...or conversely, her memory is shot. I prefer the latter since Hillary also answered...I don't remember 250 times in front of Congressional investigating committees during Kommander Corruptions defiling of the White House for 8 years.

So, is berating the Chinese in such a public way totally cynical..or what? I think it is.

Instead, Hillary should have quietly gone to China and after giving the secret password..."Don't shoot, I am a friend", Hillary should have reminded the Chinese of all the good things she and Bill have done for the Communist Chinese government...like committing treason by handing their military nuclear bomb technology and missile technology which now permits them to target the United States with nuclear missiles. Not to mention throwing open the doors of the Los Alamos National Research Laboratory to every Chinese spy in America. After all, it was Madam Halfbright...and that's stretching reality...Hillary's designated Sec State who said...it's not fair that America is the only superpower on earth.

Oh, and it should be pointed out that the Clintons gave the Communist Chinese nuclear and missile technology that even their fellow Communists in the Soviet Union wouldn't give them.

So, given that the Clinton's and the Communist Chinese government(s) are the very best friends they could each have on earth, Hillary could have and should have quietly counseled them to get a grip on their exports to the United States...instead of publicly berating them. Now, that's cynical but right in line with everything else known about the Corrupt Duo, Bill and Hill.

The Clinton-China Connection
Charles R. Smith
Thursday, Aug. 9, 2007


I cannot help but laugh at Hillary Clinton. The leading democrat candidate for President declared herself a righteous critic of China during a recent debate.

Hillary warned the United States must deal with China's "currency manipulation" at the forum hosted by the AFL-CIO trade unions federation. She also lashed out at China for sending dangerous toys to the U.S., something which I noted her left-wing audience would like. "I don't want to eat bad food from China or have my children having toys that are going to get them sick," said Clinton.

Oh, that's so nice and tough but Hillary — we know you have taken money from the Chinese. Not just once but many times. For example, in February 1995 Johnny Chung asked DNC Chairman Don Fowler to help him get a photo op of Bill Clinton with a few friends from China.


Fowler declined to help Chung because the list of friends included Zheng Hongye, a top executive of the Chinese navy-owned shipping company COSCO. In response, Chung handed a $50,000 check to Maggie Williams, Hillary Clinton's chief of staff. On March 11, 1995, Chung and Zheng attended Clinton's weekly radio address, which was later followed by a photo session.

Chung later noted that the money came directly from the hands of Gen. Ji, then head of the PLA military intelligence department. Ji handed the money to Chung with the famous words," We like your president (Clinton). We want him re-elected."

Still, Mrs. Clinton has a few of her own pictures to live down, including one with convicted "Chinagate" figure Moctar Riady. Yet, the many pictures of Hillary with the Riady family never made it into her "tell-all" book because that family photo series ties her at the hips with Beijing.

The Riady family is a direct link to the Chinese army. According to a U.S. Senate report, Moctar and his billion dollar company the Lippo Group, was directly in business with the Chinese military intelligence. Of course, if you ask Hillary, she has never heard of the Riady family. Then again, the relationship between the Clintons and the Riadys spans all the way back to Arkansas when Moctar bought out the Little Rock Worthen Bank.

James Riady pled guilty to passing illegal money through Hillary and Bill in the form of illegal donations. Moctar's personal gardener once handed Bill Clinton a $450,000 check with the words "James Riady sent me."


Efforts to question the gardener were unsuccessful since he and his wife skipped America right after the donation.


The question of where or how a gardener could get $450,000 was answered later. It seems that the Riady family gave him $500,000 but only $450,000 managed to fall out of his pocket and into Clinton hands. Then there is the problem of ex-Lippo employee John Huang. Huang was also a close friend of the Clintons. Curiously, John managed to leave his six figure job as a VP at the Lippo Group, take a pay cut, and obtain top secret clearance at the U.S. Commerce Department under Ron Brown.

I know that John could not have gotten this job based on his skill level because I have a letter written by Huang to Ron Brown prior to his government employment.

"Daer Ron", starts Huang. No kidding here - he spelled "dear" as "daer."


"Congratulations for great performance during yesterday Senate hearing. I was watching it in the Senate Russell Building and came away with the strong feeling that you will do an outstanding job as Secretary of the Department of Commerce in the coming years," noted Huang.


"I was trying to reach you. But there were too many people there and I was not successful to do it," struggled Huang.

"What I really want to do is to identify a convenient time in the coming week to arrange a meeting between you and Dr. Mochtar Riady, our Group Chairman. Dr. Riady will be coming to the States. I firmly believe such a meeting will be quite beneficial and valuable given Dr. Riady's many years experience in the business arena. In fact, he is so good that he has been named as advisor to two of largest Japanese Banks (Tokai Bank and Daiwa Bank). Dealing with Japan and other Asian matters will be all of our important agenda."

Clearly, English was not John's forte but he was accepted for work at Clinton's Commerce Department. While at the "Commerce" Department, Huang obtained a wide variety of civilian and commercial data, including details on Patriot missile sales, F-15 and F-16 fighter jet sales, and bribes paid to the Indonesian dictator Suharto.

Of course, no one has even explained to me why the Commerce Department was involved in military equipment and kick-backs to dictators. Then again, maybe I an ignorant of the ways one can classify a Patriot missile as civilian.

Huang later pled guilty to passing Chinese money into the coffers of the DNC for the Clintons. In fact, Huang cited his Fifth Amendment rights over 2,000 times when asked if he was an agent of the Chinese military.


No one even answered the questions about how John got his job at Commerce, except for the one fact that slipped out, the pressure to hire Huang came from Mrs. Clinton's office.

Don't ask Hillary about this. She won't remember. However, the Chinese army will remember whenever they need a favor.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/152130.shtml

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posted August 09, 2007 11:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop,

Just wondering what you know about the super highway planned that will go from Mexico all the way up through the US to Canada.

I was talking with a friend of mine the other day(who happens to be a longstanding Republican) about this, and she was telling me that the Chinese have bought a great many ports in Mexico, and that Chinese soldiers have been seen down there. Have you heard anything about that?

Just curious.
Peace,
GG

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posted August 10, 2007 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heard a lot about the so called Super Highway GG...which is part of a plan to merge the United States, Canada and Mexico into a North American superstate...ala the European Union. The overall name of this plan is the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP.

Of course, they deny this is what they are doing but talks about standardizing building codes and lots of other administrative functions have already been discussed. My own Republican Congressman, Bill Young lied to me...and it was a lie..about the SPP.

Petron was the first...I believe...to raise this issue here, more than a year ago.

This plan is being pushed by the Council on Foreign Relations, CFR whose members are a direct threat to the sovereignty of the United States..not just on this issue but a range of others as well. This is a "One World Government" group and they are a threat.

The plan seems to be to merge the nations administratively and without a vote of Congress by using NGO..Non Governmental Organizations... type organizations and private ownership...mostly foreign to avoid any vote or oversight by our elected representatives. There has been a lot written about The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP.

So, since there is a list of articles on this subject on the World Net Daily site perhaps you can swallow hard and steel yourself to read what's been written there.

They even have plans for a new currency...called the "Amero"...which would be just as unconstitutional as the current currency called Federal Reserve Notes.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50618
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50657
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50981
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51029
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51036
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51132
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51222
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51143
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51233
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52063
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52077
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52079
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52074
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52104
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52186
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52230
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52357
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52576
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52604
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52621
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52684
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52788
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53023
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53378
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53803
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53633
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53947
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54859
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http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56887
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http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56983
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57017
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57029
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57053
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posted August 10, 2007 11:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop,

Thanks for taking the time to respond and to post those links. I will do my best to read through as I have the time. Don't worry I'll be brave

Peace,
GG

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posted August 12, 2007 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a lot to wade through GG...all at once. But if the MSM had been doing it's job all along, most people would already know about the SPP and the so called Super Highway from Mexico to Canada...through the heart of the United States.

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posted August 13, 2007 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NosiS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 14, 2007 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So now, Hillary's White House records are sealed up tight and won't be available until "after" the 2008 elections.

Where's the screeching and screaming from the left about the people's right to know? Especially when it concerns the most corrupt First Lady to ever occupy the White House who now wants to be Prez.

The corrupt duo of Bill and Hill even tried to make off with art treasures belonging to the United States. They got caught and then argued that the art works belonged to them. The very same corrupt duo who oversaw the White House staff which trashed the White House on the way out now want back in with Hillary as Prez and Bill as First Gentleman...which is mission impossible.

There's been entirely too much personal corruption by the dud duo of Bill and Hill to ever let them anywhere near the White House again.

So, let's see those White House records for Hillary which are now locked up...like her Rose Law Firm billing records under subpeona to be produced by a federal special prosecutor.

Clinton's first lady records locked up
Archivists say the former first lady's documents at her husband's presidential library won't be released until after the '08 vote.
By Peter Nicholas, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 14, 2007

LITTLE ROCK, ARK

. - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton cites her experience as a compelling reason voters should make her president, but nearly 2 million pages of documents covering her White House years are locked up in a building here, obscuring a large swath of her record as first lady.

Clinton's calendars, appointment logs and memos are stored at her husband's presidential library, in the custody of federal archivists who do not expect them to be released until after the 2008 presidential election.

A trove of records has been made public detailing the Clinton White House's attempts to remake the nation's healthcare system, following a request from Bill Clinton that those materials be released first. Hillary Clinton led the healthcare effort in 1993 and 1994.

But even in the healthcare documents, at least 1,000 pages involving her work has been censored by archives staff because they include confidential advice and must be kept secret under a federal law called the Presidential Records Act. Political consultants said that if Hillary Clinton's records were made public, rivals would mine them for scraps of information that might rattle her campaign.

"Those files -- that's the mother lode of opposition research," said Ray McNally, a Republican political consultant in Sacramento. "Opposition researchers would be very hungry to see what's there." Robert Shrum, senior political strategist in Democratic Sen. John F. Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign, said: "In 2 million pieces of paper, would opposition researchers hope to find one where she wrote a memo saying, 'I wish I'd never gotten involved in healthcare?' Sure. That's what they'd love to find."

At the Clinton library overlooking the Arkansas River, federal archivists clad in protective smocks are sorting through 80 million pages of records and another 20 million e-mails from a Clinton presidency that ended in January 2001. About 2 million of those pages concern the first lady's office.

A staff of 11 spends most of its time answering some 250 requests for documents submitted under the Freedom of Information Act. Requests are fulfilled largely on a first-come, first-served basis. Because the earliest requests involved other Clinton administration activities, the requests for the now-New York senator's records are further back in line, staff members said.

A list of Freedom of Information Act requests that have been completed by the archives staff includes one for a photo of Bill Clinton jogging with a "Yale Whiffenpoof Club insignia" on his clothing; another for various files on UFOs and flying saucers and one for the full name of the pastry chef who made a birthday cake for Chelsea Clinton.

Before documents are released, archives staff must read them and, by law, must redact material that they determine contains classified information, invades a person's privacy, reveals trade secrets, reveals confidential advice from presidential advisors or raises other concerns specified in the records law.

Asked how long it might be before Hillary Clinton's records are released, the library's chief archivist said it could take years.

"We're processing as fast as we can," Melissa Walker said.

Not fast enough, in the view of some who have been waiting. A conservative watchdog group called Judicial Watch filed suit against the National Archives last month, demanding the release of Hillary Clinton's diaries, telephone logs, daily planners and schedules. In the 1990s, the group filed suits against the Clinton administration that led to revelations about fundraising practices, including Democratic campaign donors being tapped for official trade missions. In the most recent suit, Judicial Watch said it had submitted its request more than a year ago and had received nothing, save for confirmation that the library possessed "a substantial volume" of such papers.

Staffing pressures have prevented the National Archives from keeping up with an expanding workload. In 2002, the agency employed 334 archivists. This year, the number is down to 301. That 10% drop came during a period when the National Archives assumed jurisdiction over two more presidential libraries: those of Clinton and Richard Nixon.

"If we have fewer trained personnel, we are unable to do as many preservation projects as we might like, and we're less able to serve the public in ways we would like to," said Susan Cooper, a spokeswoman for the National Archives.

But advocates for open records said that had it made savvier use of technology, the Clinton library could be moving more quickly. Computers can sort through e-mail to flag classified documents, as distinguished from material that can be speedily released, said Thomas S. Blanton, director of the National Security Archive, a research institute at George Washington University.

"There's no reason why a load of a few hundred FOIA requests should absorb 11 full-time people perpetually," Blanton said, referring to requests made under the Freedom of Information Act.

What records that have been made public offer tantalizing details about Hillary Clinton's White House years. One memo reveals details about the "war room" for the healthcare plan. Aides wrote of the need for secrecy, but also presented Hillary Clinton with arguments she could make that the process of drawing up a healthcare plan was "the most open in the history of the federal government."

A 1993 memo discussed a plan to create reports on members of Congress, tracking their positions on healthcare. The files would log when members met with Hillary Clinton, how they voted on key bills, and -- under a category called "influence" -- whom they consulted for advice. One 1994 memo offers a historical curiosity: It draws Clinton's attention to a rising Republican politician, Mitt Romney, who is now a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination.

In the memo, Clinton's aides discussed a trip to Boston, where the then-first lady was to appear at a fundraising event for Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass). Kennedy was then running for reelection against Romney.

"Romney, a millionaire business consultant with no political experience, is a Mormon," the memo reads. "His religion is a delicate issue, which Kennedy himself has not raised but other Democrats have."

At other presidential libraries -- which in some cases have had decades to process the material -- some first lady records are now open to the public.

About 75,000 pages of Rosalynn Carter's records are publicly available, including scheduling and social office files. Both the Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush libraries also said that some records covering former first ladies Nancy Reagan and Barbara Bush were open.

The healthcare papers that have been released contain gaps when it comes to the part played by Hillary Clinton. A number of records involving her have been kept secret because they include confidential advice between presidential aides. Among the withheld documents are memos about meetings between Hillary Clinton and Democratic Sens. Christopher J. Dodd and Joseph R. Biden Jr. -- now her rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Other records kept from public view include a 1993 memo to the first lady entitled "positioning ourselves on healthcare," and another from that year called "public portrayal of the Medicare program."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-clintondocs14aug14,1,1086895.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true

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I've had a chance to read through quite a bit of those articles, and have been seeing some talk about it on some of my newsfeeds recently. I'm really appalled about how far along this is all getting without the sheep getting wind of it.

I'm sure that Hillary's records being sealed is above board and honest...just like the $900,000 she took from the pharma industry in campaign contributions.

Are there any patriots left out there, or have they all died?

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The deeper we look into nature, the more we recognize that it is full of life, and the more profoundly we know that all life is a secret and that we are united with all life that is in nature. --Albert Schweitzer

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posted September 04, 2007 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This plan is being pushed by the Council on Foreign Relations, CFR whose members are a direct threat to the sovereignty of the United States..not just on this issue but a range of others as well. This is a "One World Government" group and they are a threat.

Jwhop just became a conspiracy theorist! It's the end of the world!

(I'm kidding, don't yell at me )

Wasn't Cheney actually the director of the CFR for a while?

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posted September 06, 2007 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are a lot of people trying to stop the SPP, North American Union and the super highway GG.

It's just not being reported much in the main stream media who for the most part cheer when any part of US sovereignty is given away by politicians.

You should know Johnny, I'm an equal opportunity ripper of government, politicians and groups, regardless of party.

I just want to be sure to rip them for the right reasons and with the truth. Not a bunch of bullshiiit lies, rumors, gossip, innuendo, slander and libel.

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posted September 06, 2007 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobility, thy name is Jwhop.

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posted September 07, 2007 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're sounding a little cynical Johnny.

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