posted September 22, 2007 04:26 PM            

1. The arctic is melting, exposing new oil and gas reserves hidden below the ice.

2.Various countries are clamoring for their share of the new spoils.

3.The opening of the northwest passage will increase shipping and commerce.

So burning fossil fuels leads to global warming, which is melting the ice, and raising sea levels. So what do humans do, go in and get more gas from under the ice to burn and increase global warming even further? Does anyone think this is mildly ironic?

posted September 22, 2007 05:25 PM              

There is far more to it than science. In any case, science and spirit are really one....but as for CO2 alone.....I have my doubts.....refer to 'The Great Global Warming Swindle'.....

We need to re-balance ourselves with the spirit- the spirit of our higher selves and the Earth.......

I could go on and on but I'm sure most of you will know where to look and where to find out more about what I am saying...the Hopi prophecies, the Native wisdom, etc. I'm not going to change the way people think with these words. Words are just keys we have to unravel with our hearts.

posted September 22, 2007 07:05 PM              

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Does anyone think this is mildly ironic?

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Humans greed is being witnessed in this event.

That coastal property you speak of is dirt cheap right now too, LOL!

posted September 23, 2007 11:57 AM              

To escape the disasters.

Just like those Caucasian/Indegenous tribes living in the jungles of South America. They says their ancestors moved there when a big continent they were living on sank into the ocean.

The Spaniards encountered them during their conquistador travels.

posted September 23, 2007 10:47 PM              

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(Sept. 22) - Ultimately, rising seas will likely swamp the first American settlement in Jamestown, Va., as well as the Florida launch pad that sent the first American into orbit, many climate scientists are predicting. In about a century, some of the places that make America what it is may be slowly erased.

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University of Arizona Northeast: A map created by University of Arizona scientists, based on data from the U.S. Geological Survey, show areas in the Northeast that would become flooded if the the sea rose one meter.
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Global warming - through a combination of melting glaciers, disappearing ice sheets and warmer waters expanding - is expected to cause oceans to rise by one meter, or about 39 inches. It will happen regardless of any future actions to curb greenhouse gases, several leading scientists say. And it will reshape the nation.

Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.

Storm surges worsened by sea level rise will flood the waterfront getaways of rich politicians - the Bushes' Kennebunkport and John Edwards' place on the Outer Banks. And gone will be many of the beaches in Texas and Florida favored by budget-conscious students on Spring Break.

That's the troubling outlook projected by coastal maps reviewed by The Associated Press. The maps, created by scientists at the University of Arizona, are based on data from the U.S. Geological Survey.

Few of the more than two dozen climate experts interviewed disagree with the one-meter projection. Some believe it could happen in 50 years, others say 100, and still others say 150.

Sea level rise is "the thing that I'm most concerned about as a scientist," says Benjamin Santer, a climate physicist at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California.

"We're going to get a meter and there's nothing we can do about it," said University of Victoria climatologist Andrew Weaver, a lead author of the February report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in Paris. "It's going to happen no matter what - the question is when."

Sea level rise "has consequences about where people live and what they care about," said Donald Boesch, a University of Maryland scientist who has studied the issue. "We're going to be into this big national debate about what we protect and at what cost."

This week, beginning with a meeting at the United Nations on Monday, world leaders will convene to talk about fighting global warming. At week's end, leaders will gather in Washington with President Bush.

Experts say that protecting America's coastlines would run well into the billions and not all spots could be saved.

And it's not just a rising ocean that is the problem. With it comes an even greater danger of storm surge, from hurricanes, winter storms and regular coastal storms, Boesch said. Sea level rise means higher and more frequent flooding from these extreme events, he said.

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Martin Bernetti, AFP / Getty Images Scientists laid out a timeline of the planet's future in April. 2007: The world population surpasses 6.6 billion as more people now live in cities than in rural areas, changing patterns of land use.
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All told, one meter of sea level rise in just the lower 48 states would put about 25,000 square miles under water, according to Jonathan Overpeck, director of the Institute for the Study of Planet Earth at the University of Arizona. That's an area the size of West Virginia.

The amount of lost land is even greater when Hawaii and Alaska are included, Overpeck said.

The Environmental Protection Agency's calculation projects a land loss of about 22,000 square miles. The EPA, which studied only the Eastern and Gulf coasts, found that Louisiana, Florida, North Carolina, Texas and South Carolina would lose the most land. But even inland areas like Pennsylvania and the District of Columbia also have slivers of at-risk land, according to the EPA.

This past summer's flooding of subways in New York could become far more regular, even an everyday occurrence, with the projected sea rise, other scientists said. And New Orleans' Katrina experience and the daily loss of Louisiana wetlands - which serve as a barrier that weakens hurricanes - are previews of what's to come there.

Florida faces a serious public health risk from rising salt water tainting drinking water wells, said Joel Scheraga, the EPA's director of global change research. And the farm-rich San Joaquin Delta in California faces serious salt water flooding problems, other experts said.

"Sea level rise is going to have more general impact to the population and the infrastructure than almost anything else that I can think of," said S. Jeffress Williams, a U.S. Geological Survey coastal geologist in Woods Hole, Mass.

Even John Christy at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, a scientist often quoted by global warming skeptics, said he figures the seas will rise at least 16 inches by the end of the century. But he tells people to prepare for a rise of about three feet just in case.

Williams says it's "not unreasonable at all" to expect that much in 100 years. "We've had a third of a meter in the last century."

The change will be a gradual process, one that is so slow it will be easy to ignore for a while.

"It's like sticking your finger in a pot of water on a burner and you turn the heat on, Williams said. "You kind of get used to it."l

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posted September 24, 2007 01:35 PM            

What you had best be thinking about is the coming new ice age. We're in an interglacial period right now which typically lasts 10 to 12 thousand years. After that comes the glaciation reaching far down into central Europe and into the heartland of the United States.

posted September 27, 2007 09:17 AM              

Scientists: Rising seas will flood historic sites

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* Scientists: Rising seas will likely swamp Jamestown, Virginia
* Other sites threatened: Wall Street, Silicon Valley, the Outer Banks
* Oceans are expected to rise by about 39 inches over the next century
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(AP) -- Ultimately, rising seas will likely swamp the first American settlement in Jamestown, Virginia, as well as the Florida launch pad that sent the first American into orbit, many climate scientists are predicting.

Rising waters will flood the first American settlement of Jamestown within a century, scientists predict.

In about a century, some of the places that make America what it is may be slowly erased.

Global warming -- through a combination of melting glaciers, disappearing ice sheets and warmer waters expanding -- is expected to cause oceans to rise by one meter, or about 39 inches. It will happen regardless of any future actions to curb greenhouse gases, several leading scientists say. And it will reshape the nation.

Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.

Storm surges worsened by sea level rise will flood the waterfront getaways of rich politicians -- the Bushes' Kennebunkport and John Edwards' place on the Outer Banks. And gone will be many of the beaches in Texas and Florida favored by budget-conscious students on Spring Break.

That's the troubling outlook projected by coastal maps reviewed by The Associated Press. The maps, created by scientists at the University of Arizona, are based on data from the U.S. Geological Survey.

Few of the more than two dozen climate experts interviewed disagree with the one-meter projection. Some believe it could happen in 50 years, others say 100, and still others say 150.

Sea level rise is "the thing that I'm most concerned about as a scientist," says Benjamin Santer, a climate physicist at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California.

"We're going to get a meter and there's nothing we can do about it," said University of Victoria climatologist Andrew Weaver, a lead author of the February report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in Paris. "It's going to happen no matter what -- the question is when."

Sea level rise "has consequences about where people live and what they care about," said Donald Boesch, a University of Maryland scientist who has studied the issue. "We're going to be into this big national debate about what we protect and at what cost."

This week, beginning with a meeting at the United Nations on Monday, world leaders will convene to talk about fighting global warming. At week's end, leaders will gather in Washington with President Bush.
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Experts say that protecting America's coastlines would run well into the billions and not all spots could be saved.

And it's not just a rising ocean that is the problem. With it comes an even greater danger of storm surge, from hurricanes, winter storms and regular coastal storms, Boesch said. Sea level rise means higher and more frequent flooding from these extreme events, he said.

All told, one meter of sea level rise in just the lower 48 states would put about 25,000 square miles under water, according to Jonathan Overpeck, director of the Institute for the Study of Planet Earth at the University of Arizona. That's an area the size of West Virginia.

The amount of lost land is even greater when Hawaii and Alaska are included, Overpeck said.

The Environmental Protection Agency's calculation projects a land loss of about 22,000 square miles. The EPA, which studied only the Eastern and Gulf coasts, found that Louisiana, Florida, North Carolina, Texas and South Carolina would lose the most land. But even inland areas like Pennsylvania and the District of Columbia also have slivers of at-risk land, according to the EPA.

This past summer's flooding of subways in New York could become far more regular, even an everyday occurrence, with the projected sea rise, other scientists said. And New Orleans' Katrina experience and the daily loss of Louisiana wetlands -- which serve as a barrier that weakens hurricanes -- are previews of what's to come there.

Florida faces a serious public health risk from rising salt water tainting drinking water wells, said Joel Scheraga, the EPA's director of global change research. And the farm-rich San Joaquin Delta in California faces serious salt water flooding problems, other experts said.

"Sea level rise is going to have more general impact to the population and the infrastructure than almost anything else that I can think of," said S. Jeffress Williams, a U.S. Geological Survey coastal geologist in Woods Hole, Mass.

Even John Christy at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, a scientist often quoted by global warming skeptics, said he figures the seas will rise at least 16 inches by the end of the century. But he tells people to prepare for a rise of about three feet just in case.

Williams says it's "not unreasonable at all" to expect that much in 100 years. "We've had a third of a meter in the last century."

The change will be a gradual process, one that is so slow it will be easy to ignore for a while.

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posted September 27, 2007 12:42 PM            

Jim Hansen, the global warming pseudo scientist has been in the pocket of the leftist airhead to the tune of about $750,000....while at the same time using his official office at NASA to preach his global warming religion...or is it the religion of America hater George Soros?

Of course, you weren't supposed to find out George Soros was paying Jim Hansen off to be his front man in the effort to shut America down. We only found out when an enterprising investigator found the entry of payment in one of the George Soros front groups by examining the groups annual filing to the federal government.

The global warming nuts just aren't intelligent enough to comprehend the cycles of solar radiation which come and go. Presently, increased solar radiation...from the sun is heating up every planet in the solar system...including Pluto. But that fact seems to escape the pseudo scientists of the man made global warming lunacy who pant to blame global warming on CO2.

I can't wait for these nuts to insist the citizens of other planets in the solar system get with the program, scrap their SUV's, their jet aircraft, their industrial capacity and join earthlings to curb system wide use of CO2.

God, what idiots these pseudo scientists be.

Only a few years ago, these same morons were warning of a coming ice age...'it's just around the corner'.

posted September 27, 2007 02:50 PM              

Nations must fight climate change like terrorism, Rice says

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* U.S. secretary of state calls on nations to unite to combat climate change
* Condoleezza Rice: Cooperation must be similar to fight against terror
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Thursday told delegates to the Global Change Conference that countries around the world must work together to combat climate change, much as they cooperate against terror and the spread of disease.
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U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice addresses the Global Change Conference on Thursday.

"No one nation, no matter how much power or political will it possesses, can succeed alone," she said. "We all need partners, and we all need to work in concert."

Rice said the United States takes climate change seriously, "for we are both a major economy and a major emitter."

"Climate change is a global problem, and we are contributing to it. Therefore, we are prepared to expand our leadership to address the challenge," she said.

Other nations have been critical of the Bush administration's policy on climate change after the United States withdrew from the 1997 U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change, known as the Kyoto Protocol. More than 150 countries signed the Kyoto agreement, which mandates limits on emissions.
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At a Group of Eight conference in June, President Bush pushed for a new framework on global gas emissions to counter the effects of global warming.

Bush said he believes every nation should set its own goals. The president expressed concern that setting strict targets would damage the U.S. economy. Instead, he said, industries should enact voluntary measures.

In her address Thursday, Rice said an integrated response, including "environmental stewardship, economic growth, energy supply and security and development and the development and deployment of new clean energy technology" is the key to moving forward on the issue.

She listed three points that she hopes delegates will focus on during the conference:

# An agreement on a long-term goal for greenhouse gas reduction.

# The establishment of midterm national targets and programs tailored to each country's economic and energy needs to reach the broader goal.

# The encouragement of work with private industry to develop new energy technology that doesn't risk but accelerates economic growth.

"If we stay on our present path, we face an unacceptable choice: Either we sacrifice global economic growth ... or we sacrifice the health of our planet to continue with fossil fuel growth," Rice warned. "This is a choice we must refuse to make. Instead, we must cut the Gordian knot of fossil fuels, carbon emissions and economic activity. This current system is no longer sustainable."

About 70 demonstrators from Greenpeace and other environmental groups protested outside the State Department during the conference, The Associated Press reported. Dozens were arrested for refusing to leave, according to the AP.

"I'm here to protest the fact that we are having a climate conference when we should have been signing the Kyoto agreement," Lauren Siegel from New York told the AP while being loaded into a police van with other protesters. "This is a diversion," she said, referring to the conference. E-mail to a friend E-mail to a friend

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