posted December 20, 2007 08:18 AM              

in his thread on (Indian caste system

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Yet, there are some there who wish to lecture the people of the United States. Do they wish to be taken seriously?

Until then, I would keep your anti-America comments to a minimum because there's a lot more where this came from and I won't be shy about putting it up. If you wish to criticize the speck in America's eye, fine; but first, extract the log from your own.

Just a little reminder to those who never miss an opportunity to bash the US or Americans...to clean up your own mess first."'

In a personal reply to my demolition of his flimsy thread

" You should learn to pick your battles more carefully. Choose battles you could possible win."

"In case you're wondering, this thread was started specifically because there were some...from other nations, including India...who were dumping on the United States, magnifying every problem and inventing problems where they couldn't find existing problems about which to rip America.

Just so there's no mistake, wherever you happen to live in the world, there are problems there. If you insist on exercising your right to describe all the problems you see in the US; I will feel free to return the favor"

posted December 20, 2007 08:19 AM              

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Most of us don't profess to be citizens of the world...and we don't intend to be.

If that bothers you, then up yours.

"

posted December 20, 2007 08:25 AM              

if u are not a Global Citizen, why the trouble of blessing us all, with ur presence here ?
u obviously have nothing of interest to offer global citizens here, ur existence revolves around the perpetuation of the shining image of the republican administration.

and u make the occasional one sided biased thread to stop other from posting their opinions .

and threatening them with

posted December 20, 2007 08:27 AM              

23 march 1993 ,
6 bombs exploded across Mumbai, killing thousands.
if I, my Mom and kid Brother were not coincidentally having tea in the kitchen, we would have been human dartboards for the glass shards of every window and mirror that exploded in our house.

the perpetrator, Dawood, the King of the Asian Mafia, supporter of terrorist middle east groups , fled to Pakistan, where he enjoys a spanking sea - side residence to beat Hollywood,has security to beat that BUSH , entertains now and then, Pak army generals, terrorist leaders, mafia compatriots from across the world.

Diplomatic pleas to deport him back to India both made by India and Interpol have met with denial of his existence, and suggestion that he is in the arab emirates.
after Interpol confirmed he is in Pak.

16 july 2006

six bombs exploded in shuttles , transporting people between downtown mumbai and suburbs, mostly those heading for their jobs.
the responsibilty was claimed by a Pak based militant outfit that threatened to continue if terrorists in Indian prisons were not released.

we have having serial terrorist attacks in the past decade at an interval of 6-8 months
all claimed for, thru media Releases by Islamic Militant outfits.

in 2003 Indian Govt sent a delegation of Indian Intelligence to D.C. with a list of terrorist outfits that are affiliated with Pakistani Army and have their office in Pak.
this was followed by a stern public request to Gen . Musharruf , the Pak Dictator, by Bush to clean up its act.
this was followed by A public address by the dictator ASKING the PAK public to renounce their ideology of Jehaad- war against evil.

THAT IS ALL.

Pakistan is littered with Madrasas , religious schools that have as students hundreds of thousands of children from poor families, acroos the globe.

in violation of all UN laws, they r smuggled from as far as bosnia, yemen, arabia , india, afghanistan etc.
their parents r told they will be given free education, food, shelter.
they dont learn math or science in these schools.

they learn warped up interpretations of Koran , asking them to fight the evil , and infidels who are a threat to Islam-- India, US, UK etc.

from the ages of 5 they r brainwashed into terrorism, and later graduate to terrorist outfits that r branches of the Pak Army which is in bed with Osama.

Islamic scholars and religious groups in India have publicly disbanded these going ons as Anti Islam ,and satanic.

when an Indian Intelligence report of the same was sent to Bush, there was a public outrage at such activities and a warning from the Bush adm. to cut them off their dole.

THAT IS ALL.

all this while i stand back and watch a 9/11 every 6 months.

THIS is what gives me the right as a human to express outrage at UR govt and point the problems they r causing.

posted December 20, 2007 08:28 AM              

Bush turned down a Congress proposal for universal healthcare for children , and found 800 $ million to throw at Pakistan !!!

here is the break up of the amount released to the public.

300$ million in military assistance
80-100 $ mill PER MONTH paid to PAK to fight the WAR on Terror !!!!!
350$ mill as e4conomic support that can free money for Gen. Mush to spend on military
100$ mill for education and welfare.

seriously JW

do u love Bush so much as to be sponsoring this insanity ?

or avoiding to comment when confronted with facts like this ?

Gen Mush, has been self appointed dictator for years, avoiding elections and a return to democracy, in an erstwhile democratic coountry.
today there are no individual freedoms, no free media, no state welfare for a nation as poor as they can be.
peaceful public protests are responded with arrests and mysterious deaths.

THIS is what the american taxpayers pay for
the UN delegations sent to Pak have lovely bedtime horror tales of crimes against Hindus, Christians snd other minorities living in Pak.
not to mention the Islamic Code that has replaced the the original Pak judiciary.

posted December 20, 2007 08:31 AM              

in 2001 my first cousin and her husband moved to Redmond, Washington, he works as a techie in Microsoft.
a few months later they went to a weekend trip to Seattle.
at a public park, stopping for a break from the sightseeing, my sister saw a suspicious stranger eyeing her.
a few minutes later when she was heading to uy water bottles for her family, she heard her name being called and turned around.
the stranger asked her if she was " ,, "
shocked at being known by a stranger in a foreign land my sister was speechless when she realised he had eerie likeness to the missing cousin

, in which time, he told her to tell his parents that he is safe, and is sorry but cant come back.

then he just turned an walked away. leaving her shouting his name amongst the crowd.
she rushed to her cellphone to call his parents.

they had spent their lifesavings on private investigators to find their only son , for a decade .

when his mom heard the message she went quiet, started sobbing , kept sobbing for 3 days and passed away on the fourth.

u , JW dont want think u r a global citizen, but her pain is shared by the mothers of all those 500000 kids who disappear in ur country every year.

those who are traced are found to be sexually abused.

is the pain of their parents any more or less than that of an indian mother ???

15000 indian girls disappear every year like the 500000 in US, victims of trafficking.
some kidnapped, some lured on the promise of a job, from poor villages.
they end up victims of a paedophile industry, centred in south asia

that caters primarily to americans and europeans, 25 % of these paedophiles are americans, as per the a UN Estimate, broadcasted on an Oprah special on trafficking.

think urself a citizen of a piece of land u may,
but our problems are the same, as are our dreams, heartbreaks and illusions.

next time a non american states the facts on the mess that ur administration is creating across the globe , TRY not to make personal insults or question his intentions.

he may be born of a third world country but he is human.

do him the honor of proving he is wrong , thru research and broad- minded thought processes.

refuse to be a Global citizen u may,
but as an American taxpayer sponsoring indirectly atrocities across the globe, i have every right to bring theses truths to light.

I have fought my Battles knowing i m RIGHT.
try and win this one

posted December 20, 2007 10:35 AM            

You don't even make sense. That is like saying all of India is bad based on the actions and financial contributions of a few people.

The US does not go around commiting atrocoties around the globe. Funny how your country doesn't seem to have a problem collecting the finacial handouts from the US. You all have our handout at the US ATM while snickering and and bad mouthing the US at the same time.

I'd love to see how well some countries would thrive without American businesses, employment, education opportunities and humanitarian aid. My guess is they would be 10 times worse off and would still be complaining- but moreso about how the US isn't helping them out.

posted December 20, 2007 04:37 PM            

Thanks for posting.

Dont let pidaua or jwhop get to you.

Nobody here takes them seriously anyway.

posted December 21, 2007 12:40 AM              

dont worry i have more balls than both JW and
PID , COMBINED

here is the reality of JW and PID,
when out of counter facts to defend ur cause question the person's intentions or gab about how US is cutting ur arms but also feeding u

never heard of government PR huh ?

btw, PID, if u can LMAO one american citizen for making an assault at another citizens personal spiritual practice , what stops u from LMAO- ing the latter when he returns the favor ?

some hypocritical diatribe THAT ....
talk about damaged ego defences...................... ...

TRY to think before u post.

"We can't win with people that have your mindset. Which is why we (the US) is better off cutting the financial apron strings and putting the money back into our own country."

uh.. then why dont they ???
why has Bush sent a delegation to ?India for nuclear power coalition ?

why is India being OFFERED what Iraq got slaughtered for ???

do attempt to think on this ?

posted December 21, 2007 05:37 AM            

It's obvious that you are terribly misinformed about Iraq and that is sad. You can think what you want, but knowing what I do about the war and our progress I can safely say you are SADLY mistaking.

Mannu,

Yeah, listen to HSC, he is the master of world events and will protect you from jwhop and me. God only knows that we're just so mean and evil with our ability to use facts and reason when supporting various issues.

posted December 21, 2007 07:53 AM              

That is exactly what JW said in his thread and TOLD all indians to stop talking about american Problems , { not Personal jabs at americans } becoz some nuts are committing crimes that diqualify us as " civilised"

i never implied any responsibility on a person of something that is the administrations doing.

it is no secret that Pakistan is the haven for terrorist militant outfits across the world and a training ground,
that 5 terrorist outfits are nothing but Pak army offshoots.

inspite of that when such a nation gets a 800 mill dole, and uses it for these activities , which would be impossible if the dole was cut off, how do u think a citizen watching terrorist attacks regularly should react ?

there is a lot of media disinformation, on both sides.
investigations by UN, Indian Inteligence that implicate Pakistan somehow dont end up in ur media.

and the taxpayers continue watching milions go to such a country in the name of help.
that is what makes me angry.
get this clear, all my posts point to the administration not the people .

there is no way i can be informed about Iraq.
i can barely keep up with the madness here .
if u have some infornmation i would love it.

posted December 21, 2007 07:59 AM              

in 1971 pak used the nuclear assistance given by US against a possible soviet threat which was instead used to develop more Pak nuclear arsenal.
all they got for this breach of UN security terms was a disclaimer from US for such use .

now in 2007 we have delegates from US offering us a nuclear coalition while simultaneously sponsoring military dictatorship in a country that has been conducting terrorist attacks, and claiming openly to have.
this is high politics at its worst, no knowing what is going on .

once again i specify the intention was to show that India is affected by global politics and factors influenced by American adm. policies, and that we have areason other than personal psychotic pleasure to point at American problems, as was suggested by JW.

posted December 21, 2007 11:21 AM            

The US has a trade imbalance with the rest of the world. The amount is about $800,000,000,000 per year...almost a trillion dollars...in the favor of the rest of the world.

Part of that trade imbalance is with India where lots of American jobs went to put people in India to work which aids the Indian people and the Indian economy.

There isn't any job which US citizens cannot do which has been shipped to other nations. People tend to forget the US invented modern manufacturing and the service industry too.

Yet, from far shores we hear constant criticism of the US, the very country which is putting their citizens to work.

Strange, it's beyond strange for one of these people to criticize the US and at the same time talk about the nice job they have or will have as a result of US companies opening service centers or contracting work out there.

I have no problem with those who wish to criticize the US. Just buckle up because it's not going to be a one way street.

BTW, India does have a caste system and it's perverse.