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Mannu
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posted February 28, 2008 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Did any one read this book?

Perhaps thats the change that people talk about but no one knows what it is.
I hear he is very very honest in this book. Including his experimentation with drugs.
He even talks about how Islam can change America.

I am drawn to this book also because his struggles are really my own struggles in America coming from a different race

http://www.amazon.com/Dreams-My-Father-Story-Inheritance/dp/1400082773

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Mannu
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posted March 04, 2008 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He cracks open when asked tough questions on economics especially NAFTA.
You can't rely on university people as he did on NAFTA. They are professional lecturers. Their job is just to give advice.
That explains his Ohio loss.

Poor leadership.
I hope people rip him off as much as possible to see what stuff he is made of, before the main elections.

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posted March 05, 2008 01:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hillary just won Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island!

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isnt MCcain o nthe rise too...

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Mannu
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posted May 10, 2008 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What the book is really about?:
http://whateversowhat.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/obama-dreams-of-my-father-really/


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Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
I found this to be very revealing. - by Anonymous comment on Wordforit


Anyone questioning why Obama attended Wright’s church needs to read Obama’s 1995 book, Dreams from my Father.

It is a sickeningly racist book “in his own words”. His deep hatred toward whites is discussed in every chapter, and sometimes on every page in every chapter!

Sadly his white grandparent’s that raised him, are the one’s he discriminates against the most–The first two chapters in this book are heartbreaking and show a very cruel, self-important, self-centered, Obama, takes great lengths to tear apart every shred of dignity and character of his grandparents, even belittling his grandfather’s service in the war under Patton by saying “he sloshed around the mud in France” but never saw TRUE COMBAT!!! (Page 15 DREAMS); Obama belittles his grandmother working in a bomber assembly line calling her “Rosie the Riveter” (Page 15 Dreams)–


Then tonight his his pathetic speech about Rev. Wright mentions his grandfathers service and grandmothers work on the assembly line as if this made them great Americans. On page 14 he reveals his grandfather had a troubled past, mother committed suicide & the grandfather found her body when he was 8, and that he was possibly the reason (or his philandering father?- for her suicide…-that was the “undoubtable cause of the mother’s unfortunate demise”! (Page 14 DREAMS).

He ridicules his grandparents for the “world they were raised in…”That was the world in which my grandparents had been raised, the dab-smack, landlocked center of the country, a place where decency & endurance & the pioneer spirit were joined at the hip with conformity and suspicion & the potential for unblinking cruelty” where white trash “farm boys” who got sewn into their woolen underwear at the beginning of winter and STANK LIKE PIGS as the months wore on.” Page 13 DREAMS.

He goes on to describe what his grandparents must have looked like when they met, his grandfather looked like a “wop” and grandmother he desribes as a “dyed blond, smart talking girl w/too much red lipstick, cigarette smoker, etc. (Page 15 DREAMS. His grandfather wanting to escape the “empty, dust-ridden plains, where big plans means a job as a bank manager & entertainment means ice cream soda…”. Obama describes his grandparents BY LOOKING AT A PHOTOGRAPH OF THEM ON A BOOKSHELF THAT SPOKE “ELOQUENTLY OF THEIR ROOTS” (Page 12 DREAMS) . “Theirs were the faces of American Gothic, the WASP bloodline’s poorer cousins”

On Page 17 he describes his grandfather as “considering himself something of a freethinker–bohemian even”; because he “counted a number of Jews he’d met in the furniture business as his closest friends.” On the same page, Obama describes them as “vaguely liberal, although their ideas would never congeal into anything like a firm ideaolgy (because they were) in this too AMERICAN”! “An American character, one typical of men of his generation…whose enthusiasms could as easily lead to the cowardice of McCathyism as to heroics of World War II…men prone to, in the end, disappointment”! (Page 16).

On page 18, Obama says “The truth is that, like most white Americans at the time, they had never really given black people much thought” Apparently Obama can not only read the minds and thoughts of his grandparents, but knew the minds and thoughts of all of white America of their generation (before Obama was even born!).

On Page 21, Obama likens his grandfather’s recollections of events as “another act of white revisionism”, but couldn’t completely dismiss them altogether because “I know how strongly gramps believed in his fiction; how badly he wanted them to be true.

Obama later states on Page 21 that “for many white people of my grandparents’ generation and background,” their instincts were in “the direction of the mob.”.

On Page 23 Obama says that “part of the story his grandfather told himself (Obama once again spends page after page on supposition as if he knows what other people are thinking etc.) was “with his black son in law & brown grandson, Gramps had entered the space age”. Obama likens his grandfathers “breezy chatty style” as a calculated effort to help him with customers. (Page 24)

The saddest and cruelest part he leaves for his grandmother. In his speech tonight he says his grandmother once told him she was afraid of black men she passed on the street. In his book DREAMS, Page 88 he refers to this ONLY IT IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN HOW HE DESCRIBED TONIGHT IN HIS SPEECH! He overhears his grandparents and walks in and asks his grandmother what is wrong. She says “a man asked me for money yesterday. While I was waiting for the bus.” Obama says “that’s all”. She says “her lips pursed with irritation. He was very aggressive, Barry. Very Aggressive. I gave him a dollar and he kept asking. If the bus hadn’t come, I think he might have hit me over the head” Next Obama walks into the other room where Gramps is at & tells him “it’s probably a little scary for her, seeing some big man block her way….” Apparently Obama left out some of the conversation w/his grandmother because he did not mention his grandmother said the man was “big” or that he “blocked” her way!!! ONE THING IS VERY CLEAR IN OBAMA’S BOOK DREAMS—HIS GRANDMOTHER NEVER SAID THE MAN WAS BLACK OR THAT THIS WAS THE REASON SHE WAS AFRAID!!! Obama says on Page 88 he learned the harrasser was black from his Grandfather–NOT GRANDMOTHER!!!

Now in my opinion there is a big difference between Obama saying tonight his grandmother told him she was afraid of “BLACK MEN SHE PASSED ON THE STREET” and the incident of one black man who was big and BLOCKED HER WAY SO SHE COULD NOT “PASS”. Apparently Obama thinks Americans are so stupid they won’t read his book or notice the “details” are a little different. On Page 89 he says men who “might easily have been my brothers could inspire their (his grandparents) rawest fears. Again, Obama writes as if his supposition of what people feel is fact!

His description of the sermon “Audacity of Hope”–the 1st sermon he heard of Rev. Wright’s is in itself a racist hatefilled sermon basically saying Hope for blacks is Audacious to a black back, because White’s control the Hope & fate and evils of the world, hunger, apartheid and all–”where white folks’ greed runs a world in need….” that’s the World! On which hope sits!” (Page 293–Dreams)

His first meeting w/Rev. Wright prior to hearing his sermon, he learned from Wright himself that he was a confessed “former” Muslim, black nationalist, studied the teachings of very controversial literature and incorporated all of “this” into Trinity (Page 282)
Source(s):
DREAMS OF MY FATHER–OBAMA WRITTEN IN 1995

Most of us thought there had been great strides in stomping out racism, It would seem that now most whites are wondering..Is this the way they preach about our race today?Do they hate us and still blame us today for slavery and all the injustices their ancestors endured?

Many Blacks are probably thinking: I hope they (the white folks don’t think this is our religion?) don’t think I accept this type of hate messages that the Rev. Wright has preached.

Yes, the man of change has been bringing change, change in the worse way..Whites, Asians, Indians, dare not say anything that may be misinterpreted. You get fired and quickly denounced. Yes, that is what other races would be thinking.

Sadly,Obama’s pastor,spiritual advisor, ‘like a family member’, ‘Uncle’, Wright has done more damage to the harmony of the races than most.

Can there be any trust now? Have we been blind? Have we all been blind? Were we so foolish as to think we could stomp out racism? Has the last 40 years been a farce?

Obama had a chance, he had a real chance, why everybody was all over him, fainting, wanting to touch him…He had a chance to just say no.. No to Jeremiah Wright. No to membership (20 years).He had a chance to denounce him, Was it not Obama who called for Imus’ the radio TV personality to be fired for making a racist comment? Was it not Obama in the front lines to hang out Geraldine F. to dry for her opinion? What is the difference Obama? Maybe you did not say it.. Maybe you don’t agree with his statements. If you don’t agree with his position. Good, but I think and many other voters think you are seriously lacking in judgment. Can we afford a President so lacking in Judgment in these crucial times?

I am not proud of your speech, Obama. I am not proud of the way you described your Grandmother or Grandfather. What did you say of his generation? The one referred above in your book..Too American, like so many of his generation..Ya know Obama,Many think they were the Greatest Generation, yeah, they had to slosh around in the mud in other countries..That’s why you can run for the highest office in the land or we would now be ‘KAPUT’!

Shame on you Obama.You had a chance, you had a chance to renounce the racist preacher.

The left is saying what a great speech it was, that he has rescued his position with the Dems, maybe so, but that does not heal the wounds.I feel that it will take far more than a bandaid to bring people together now.


an excerpt from Midnight sun see link below for whole article.

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OBAMASSIAH AND JEREMIAH: PROPHETS OF DIVISION

Since it became public knowledge that Obama’s close advisor Jeremiah Wright is a race-baiting maniac who noisily denounces America in the most inflammatory terms conceivable, black support for Obama has actually risen in the key Keystone State:

Black voters back Sen. Obama 76 - 18 percent, compared to 69 - 23 percent Feb. 27.

By encouraging blacks to foster largely bogus grievances, liberals have created a Frankenstein monster. The O.J. verdict was only a vague hint of things to come. If Robert Mugabe came to America and ran on a platform of confiscating white people’s property as he’s done to such disastrous effect in Zimbabwe, he would get the votes of Obama’s base.


The underlying tensions that would cause black Americans to respond so favorably to this anti-American rhetoric is evidence in my opinion, of a deep rift which may explode under Obama’s leadership. This issue has most decidedly done nothing less than expose the polarization that exists beneath the surface. This fatal flaw is just waiting to be exploited by the Left seeking to manipulate weakness to consolidate and make gains in their own power.

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I still haven't bought this book. Although I admit that I too have an internal dialogue at times that the world can easily identify as being "divider"/"racist". When that is not my intentions really. Its just that I am trying to measure my speech before I deliver it.

Is Hillary who is a shrewd politician herself wrong when she resorts to race baiting these days (referring to increase in votes amongst white workers more than Obama)? Can we really draw a line in the sand hoping to divide the sand?

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Note how one reader responds to "Are blacks really the racists?'
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Steve, I think they are and I blame the Leftist victimology. Yes, they were treated abominably a couple of centuries ago but it has done nothing but bad for their society to be pushed into nothing but victimhood and a simmering anger by the Left.
I read something lately which was comparing the free market, where pragmatic considerations of hiring the best person for the job and working alongside each other doing a hard day’s job tends to overcome the kinds of prejudices deepened by socialist, welfare policies.
In Sydney’s corporate culture, Asians (such as Japanese, Koreans and Chinese) shine because they are so good at their work. They rise to excellent positions and everyone works alongside each other and there is great mutual respect. Asians have never been subjected to the victimology of the Left.



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Mannu
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posted October 22, 2008 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Evidence Mounts: Ayers Co-Wrote Obama's Dreams

Evidence continues to mount that Barack Obama had substantial help from Bill Ayers in the creation of his 1995 book, Dreams From My Father, a book that Time Magazine has called "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician." The evidence falls into five general categories, here summarized.


The discovery of new matching nautical metaphors from both Ayers and Obama that almost assuredly came from the same source: Ayers, a former merchant seaman.
The discovery of a Bill Ayers' essay on memoir writing, whose postmodern themes and phrases are echoed throughout Dreams.
A newly discovered book chapter from 1990 that shows clearly and painfully the limits of Obama's prose style the year he received a contract to write Dreams.
The revelation by radical Islamicist Rashid Khalidi that Ayers made his "dining room table" available for neighborhood writers who needed help.
A refined timeline that shows Ayers had the means, the motive and the time to help Obama when he needed it most.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/evidence_mounts_ayers_cowrote.html

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Mannu
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posted November 02, 2008 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does he mean he will dump Israelis?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2088671/posts

Quote from Barack Obama’s book, Dreams Of My Father:
“THE PERSON WHO MADE ME PROUDEST OF ALL, THOUGH, WAS MY [half brother], ROY..HE CONVERTED TO ISLAM”.

From ‘Dreams of my Father’, “IN INDONESIA, I SPEND TWO YEARS AT A MUSLIM SCHOOL” “..I STUDIED THE KORAN..”

From ‘Audacity of Hope: “LOLO (Obama’s step father) FOLLOWED ISLAM....”I LOOKED TO LOLO FOR GUIDANCE”.

From ‘The Audacity Of Hope, “I WILL STAND WITH THEM (MUSLIMS) SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS OF WAR SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION..”

From The Audacity Of Hope, “WE ARE NO LONGER JUST A CHRISTIAN NATION, we are also a Jewish nation, a MUSLIM NATION, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.”

http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Islam_cha nge_the_path_to_president_for_Obama_.html?cid=dc-article-obama

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