posted March 25, 2008 05:27 PM            

Of course, Hillary claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, first to climb Mt Everest to the summit.

Problem, Hillary was born in 1947 and Sir Hillary didn't climb Mt Everest until 1953.

Perhaps Hillary's parents just didn't bother to give her a name for 6 years. 6 years of...Hey you!

posted March 25, 2008 06:11 PM            

Mc Cain has no grasp of the Iraq war

posted March 25, 2008 06:29 PM            

However Mannu, these 2 refrences were the thinking of the founding fathers as expressed in the Declaration of Independence. There was a tight consensus or the Declaration would never have been delivered in the form in which it was delivered. So this isn't the thinking of one or two random thoughts on the subject.

"They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends."

"That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce"

Wow Mannu, they were talking about the possibility of ENEMIES...AND WAR...and the right to wage WAR against ENEMIES of the United States.

Hillary has NO foreign policy experience. It's all fluff...greeting foreign leaders wives doean't count as "foreign policy experience". Now, if Hillary actually has that experience, she should find those White House documents which show that policy making experience...instead of hiding them from public view.

posted March 26, 2008 05:57 AM            

In short, stories of this ilk have already been in the Brit press and I can't say I'm tremendously surprised.

posted March 26, 2008 04:29 PM            

Hillary's Other Fabrication
Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:15 PM
By: Dick Morris and Eileen McGann

Now that Hillary Clinton has been nailed in an outright fabrication of her role in Bosnia, it is time to remind ourselves of another, even more galling fantasy that Hillary tried to sell the voters.

After 9/11, Hillary had a problem. New Yorkers were desperately focused on their own needs for protection and they were saddled with a Senator who was not one of them -- an Arkansasn or was it a Chicagoan?

Interviewed on the "Today" show one week after 9/11, she spun an elaborate yarn. The kindest thing we could say was that it was a fantasy. Or a fabrication.

She said that Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center on 9/11 and happened to duck into a coffee shop when the airplanes hit. She said that this move saved Chelsea's life. But Chelsea told Talk magazine that she was in a friend's apartment four miles from ground zero when the first plane hit. Her friend called her, waking her up, and told her to turn on the TV. On television, she saw the second plane hit, disproving Hillary's claim that "she heard the plane hit. She heard it. She did."

So why did Hillary make up the story about Chelsea? Most likely to was because her co-senator (and implicit rival for the voter's affection), a real New Yorker Chuck Schumer spoke of his daughter, who attended Stuyvesant High School (Dick's alma mater) located next to the Trade Center, being at real risk on 9/11. Hillary needed to make herself part of the scene.

She invented the entire story on national television, the "Today" show, and didn't blink an eye.

posted March 26, 2008 04:39 PM            

Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:14 PM
By: Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

"I was deeply involved in the Irish peace process"

Those words were uttered by Hillary Clinton — with a straight face!

Ever since she began her campaign for the presidency, Hillary and Bill Clinton have both boldly — and falsely — claimed that she played an important role in the Irish peace process. Suddenly rewriting history, they’ve claimed that her success in bringing peace to Ireland is all part of the vast experience that makes her qualified for the White House.

It’s funny that they both forgot to mention her magical diplomatic skills in their respective memoirs.

But now her recently released White House schedules show that Hillary’s assertions are one big fantasy. Hillary’s role in all of the Irish visits were no different than any other first ladies, the ones who didn’t think that accompanying the president to a foreign country was a major diplomatic coup.

The daily schedules show that Hillary visited Ireland on numerous occasions with the President. For the most part, her role was to stand next to him, shake hands, and occasionally introduce him before he gave a speech. Sometimes, she met with women’s and children’s groups...........

"In September 1998, she accompanied the president when he made a speech to the people of Northern Ireland. Noble Peace Price Laureate David Trimbell was present. He recently had this to say about Hillary’s role in the peace process:

“Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played.”

He continued:

"I don’t know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill [Clinton] going around," Her recent statements about being deeply involved were merely "the sort of thing people put in their canvassing leaflets" during elections. "She visited when things were happening, saw what was going on, she can certainly say it was part of her experience. I don’t want to rain on the thing for her but being a cheerleader for something is slightly different from being a principal player.”

When the President of Ireland, Mary Robinson, visited the White House, Hillary was not invited to her Oval Office meeting with the president. Instead, she hosted an informal coffee for Robinson."..........

posted March 26, 2008 04:46 PM            

Friday, March 21, 2008 7:29 PM
By: Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

Now that Hillary Clinton's schedule as first lady has been released, her near-total lack of serious involvement in the real inner workings of the government is bluntly apparent.

There are few, if any, meetings with Cabinet members, congressional leaders, the National Security Council, the National Economic Council, leaders of the Irish peace process, players in the Bosnian crisis or representatives from Rwanda. All of her so-called experience is absent from her daily schedule. What's there, for us all to see, is one soft event after another, a schedule far more typical of such first ladies as Mamie Eisenhower or Lady Bird Johnson than of a future presidential candidate.

This near-total paucity of participation in policy-making dovetails with our recollection of her White House role. In 1995 and 1996, she largely toured the country, speaking at ceremonial events, wrote a book ("It Takes A Village") and toured the world. During her international travels, there was no serious diplomacy, just a virtually endless round of meetings with women, visiting arts-and-crafts centers, watching native industries and photo opportunities for the local media.

President Clinton's memoirs reflect this absence of substance. The book contains only a handful of mentions of his wife that aren't related to their joint travel, her health care-reform program or her ceremonial duties. The Hillary she now claims to be was nowhere evident.

Hillary Clinton was deeply involved in the White House's inner workings only from the time of Bill's election through the Democratic defeat in the congressional elections of 1994. She played a key role in choosing the Cabinet and staff, in crafting the health care-reform legislation and in relations with the Democratic Congress.

But Bill Clinton saw his loss of Congress as owing to Hillary's policies and ideas. He felt that his presidency had been captured by a liberal phalanx that included the first lady and such staffers as George Stephanopoulos and Harold Ickes. He realized the need to move to the center and exiled Hillary from the White House, asking her to mix the largely ceremonial duties of her "job" with writing, speaking and policy advocacy. Her key role in the White House was a thing of the past - and remained so through all of 1995, 1996 and 1997.

Only in January 1998 did Hillary come back to real power - in order to lead the defense to the Monica Lewinsky scandal and prevent Bill's impeachment. Of course, after April 1999, she was consumed with her New York Senate race.

So Hillary's experience, real enough in 1993-94, led to a total disaster, the first loss of the House for the Democrats in 40 years. Her experience in 1998-99 was focused almost exclusively on defending against impeachment, hardly relevant for the future. But her schedule shows the vacuity of her experience in the years in between - the key years of the Clinton presidency - when the budget was balanced, the economy turned around, welfare reformed, Bosnia transformed and Kosovo freed.

posted March 26, 2008 06:34 PM            

The Irish Peace Process number I've heard about before, too. You can have my comment on that when I am sipping a G & T in a bar in Madeira Beach - it isn't fit for posting.

posted March 26, 2008 07:34 PM            

Could be this or this or this

posted March 27, 2008 08:51 AM            

One for each eye.

Something a little more contemptuous for Ms Rodham.

posted March 29, 2008 12:16 AM            

I know that jwhop and the other non-socialist, wacked out left wing nutjobs hear it...

Whoooosh.... that is the sound of Hillary and Obama tanking...

That is the sound of the intellectuals outnumbering the emo kids that "THINK" voting for a "female" or "African American" makes them smarter.

It has nothing to do with color.. the WHOOOOOSH... that you hear, has everything to do with America KNOWING that these two commie pigs will only bring down the US..

BUT..

Mannu (the English challenged Pretender) and his friend VDE will always promote that which is against what America needs.

Hey.. I have a question MANNU.. your country is NOT known for producing much(and counterfieting doesn't count) Sooooooooooooooooo... how do you think TATA Motors will be able to keep up the VALUE of Jaguar and the Land Rover vehicles?

My guess? Soon we will be able to buy them as cheap as these lame "smart" cars here in Germany (which have wonderful mileage but are death traps)and we'll have no comprehensible customer services and we'll be lucky if we get pseudo car parts LOL...

OMG.. what a joke!! Once the crowned jewel of England is now put in the hands of those that lost the call center contracts by the 100 dozen.

posted March 29, 2008 12:28 AM            

Looks like you are happy this government is keeping you and your man away from home and you will spare no effort to ensure that the next one does the same

Anyhow,
"All men are created equal..." says your constitution. It was written with no consideration for woman by those masochists

And why should woman be allowed to vote or be a general? Because she is that eve from the bible: unholy, crippled, and exploited ***** .

The very english word for a husband means farmer. A farmer sows seeds on earth (woman). Your language even highlights this non sense degradation even more. Little do these degraders realize that a woman no longer needs man. A syringe does the job and trust me in a very hygienic way too.

I want a woman to be president for this very degradation to stop. India has had the privelege of having a woman prime minister. Its a great nation. I agree that it all depends on the candidate. But just as racism is transparent in this country, the humaneness of woman is also so trasparent in this country also.

Majority of your people are so asleep, that I do not see them giving me my desired outcome.

Anyhow - Hillary is revolting deep inside her unconsciousness and thats why it surfaces as embellishings of truth, lies or whatever you perceive. Poor her. My advice to her: Please do not care if you will be called a feminist in this country. Just be yourself. Its enough. More than this country the global consciousness needs you to be awake. Greatness always knocks on the door. People miss it because of their fearful nature.

And for your other economics question - viz commodity question , I guess it has to wait till tomorrow or whenever. Need to catch a good nite sleep.

P.S. Between the choices I have of those remaining : I still think Hillary is my choice. Not Mc Cain. Not Obama. If the americans choses otherwise I won't be unhappy either. I don't let these things get hold of me as I accept the outcome whatever they be. I don't keep myself in denial.

posted March 29, 2008 06:24 AM            

Think of all the female leaders of nations, how many of them got the job because they were the wife or daughter of a previous incumbent? That is fine, they were forerunners, but is progress being made with this podium offering?

posted March 29, 2008 11:19 AM              

apart from the fact that u got my Acronym wrong.. u seem to suffer from selective amnesia coupled with selective comprehension.

i have told you before and i am telling u now, IF i ever feel i need an Ageing, Childless Hag to tell me what to think of myself I will write to Oprah for an intervention, until then u can keep cleaning Puppy Poo. Just becoz your life sucks and this is a free speech board , does not make it an excuse for you or any other middle aged broad to accuse me with something that u cant possibly prove... hell even know to begin with. AND i never even posted on this thread. LMAO... talk about damaged.

"" your country is NOT known for producing much(and counterfieting doesn't count) Sooooooooooooooooo... how do you think TATA Motors will be able to keep up the VALUE of Jaguar and the Land Rover vehicles?""

dumbest one yet.... PID, u rock old lady... Forbes list for 2007 further said India ended Japan's 20-year reign as home to Asia's largest number of the richest people. As many as 14 Indians have joined the coveted club this year, raising the net worth of the country's billionaires by around $90 billion

hell 2 . of the top 10 richest are Indian industrialists... is that jealousy i smell ...

Do me a big favor, try PROVING yourself right... no wait you cannot...

All you know is to pretend to be an authority on something you have no possibility of even being a student of , while you are busy cleaning puppy leeches..

heres a tutorial for the Army Dame
http://business.mapsofindia.com/automobile/car-manufacturers/index.html

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The reason behind the immense growth of the India Car Industry can be attributed to the availability of car loans, affordable rates of interest, smooth repayment facilities and the deductions offered to the customers by the retailers.

The constant changes in the existing car models with regard to design, innovation, technology, and colors, have led to a fiercely competitive market. Now that technology and innovation are not alien concepts for Indian car makers, Indian cars are becoming increasingly sleek, stylish, and luxurious.
Major players in the Indian Car Industry:
Fierce competition among the major car players can be witnessed in the Indian Car industry. The India car industry is being dominated by the following major players:

Car Manufacturers In India

Hindustan Motors,Maruti Udyog,Reva Electric Car Co,Daimler Chrysler India Private Ltd,Fiat India Private Ltd,Ford India Ltd,General Motors India,Honda Siel Cars India Ltd,Hyundai Motors India Ltd,Toyota Kirloskar Motor Ltd,Skoda Auto India Private Ltd
AUDI AG
BMW
CHEVROLET
FORCE MOTORS
NISSAN MOTOR CO. LTD
PORSCHE
ROLLS-ROYCE MOTOR
CAR COMPANIES IN INDIA
TATA MOTORS

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phew... not bad eh

posted March 29, 2008 11:20 AM              

The automobile industry in India is the eleventh largest in the world with an annual production of approximately 2 million units. India is expected to overtake China as the world's fastest growing car market[1] in terms of the number of units sold and the automotive industry is one of the fastest growing manufacturing sectors in India.[2] Because of its large market (India has a population of 1.1 billion; the second largest in the world), a low base of car ownership (7 per 1,000 people) and a surging economy, India has become a huge attraction for car manufacturers around the world.[3]

Though several major foreign automakers, like Ford, GM and Honda, have their manufacturing bases in India, Indian automobile market is dominated by domestic companies. Maruti Suzuki is the largest passenger vehicle company, Tata Motors is the largest commercial vehicle company while Hero Honda is the largest motorcycle company in India. Other major Indian automobile manufacturers include Mahindra & Mahindra, Ashok Leyland and Bajaj Auto.

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hear that o ignorant ones.. we have foreign car makers setting up plants here for better and economical production... just like the Business process outsourcing facilities.

as for our call centres.... u take the cake..i give up... are u that DUMB or really acting dumb... i' ve aldready made a thread about how no one in india wants to work in a call centre so much so we are importing rednecks from across Europe and USA to do those jobs.. u even posted ur ignorant reply in that thread.

Talk about Damaged.... Do really THINK when u post all this Puppy Poo

no wait.. i get it..

unevolved plutonian.. Saggy sun...midlife crisis.....

posted March 29, 2008 02:08 PM            

I still have fond memories of the XKE Series 3 V-12 we owned. As soon as you opened the bonnet, you realized why the engine compartment was so long. I wonder how much room a hamster wheel is going to take up? I doubt a decal...Hamster Powered is going to fly in the American market.

Yeah, I've always wondered about the mental competence of those who would vote for someone because of their gender or their race or because they would be the 1st to hold that office....or any other reason than they are the most qualified for the job.

In the case of Hillary and O'Bomber, both are uniquely unqualified to hold the Office of President. I always think democrats must be able to do a better job of selecting Presidential candidates but they never do. Guess that goes with the territory of being socialists, which inhibits rational thought.

posted April 03, 2008 10:12 AM            

Its funny that no one corrected her when the book came out. So she continued to believe that she and her fly had to run towards the car. I guess Americans are more fearful in general. May be her fear came from there.

All this media people with pinheads sit in their cosy chairs and pass judgements without thinking twice.

But the important truth is how many American families would like to go to Iraq today on vacation? None. I have never been in a war situation or any emergency situation. I think it requires guts to be even in that place at that moment.

posted April 06, 2008 11:38 AM            

April 05, 2008
Hillary "Misspeaks" Again?
Rick Moran

Apparently, Hillary Clinton's nose is growing longer by the day. Here's the latest from the imagination of the former First Lady.

Clinton has been eliciting tears and anger with her story about a pregnant women who was denied care for herself and baby at an Ohio hospital resulting in her death.

But according to the hospital, the story is not entirely accurate. In fact, it's not very accurate at all. Actually, it's a lie:

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio.

But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured.

“We implore the Clinton campaign to immediately desist from repeating this story,” said Rick Castrop, chief executive officer of the O’Bleness Health System.

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February.***Note, now why in the hell would the Hillary campaign want to contact the hospital...and ruin a perfectly good sob story designed to stampede everyone into Hillarys socialist health care system?

Oooops.

Of course, she can say that it's not her fault the story is incorrect because she heard it 3rd hand. But one wonders the standards of truth her campaign uses when these "misstatements" are exposed.

posted April 06, 2008 02:27 PM              

quote:

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Back to the burning issue of the thread -> is it, or is it not, a good idea to vote in a national leader and give them the power to make decisions about complex foreign policy issues when they don't know the difference between Europe and Africa?

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NO! But we've done it once (or so we've been told), so what the hell ...
I'm ashamed, bluemoon. I'm truly, down deep in my colonial heart, ashamed.