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jwhop
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posted April 14, 2008 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By now, we all know Obama sat is a church with an outright racist, antisemitic, American hating pastor for about 20 years. We know he took his children to listen to this same bilge.

We know Obama has an association with a domestic terrorist who as part of the "Weathermen" set bombs in police headquarters and the Pentagon. We know also those bombs killed real people. We know the bomber and his bomber wife said they wished they had done even more bombing and they are completely unrepentant.

We also know O'Bomber wants to talk to the biggest terrorist regime on earth, Iran. We also know O'bomber would bomb Pakistan...one of our allies in the war on terror.

We know Obama's political guru was and probably still is a member of the Communist Party USA.

We know the Democratic Socialists of America supported Obama in his efforts to get elected to the state senate and also to the Senate of the United States.

We also know Obama lacks any substance. He's all show and no go. His speeches are so much substance-less droning.

There's a lot more we need to know about Barack Obama.

ELECTION 2008
Obama worked with terrorist
Senator helped fund organization that rejects 'racist' Israel's existence
Posted: February 24, 2008
5:44 pm Eastern
By Aaron Klein

Sen. Barack Obama

JERUSALEM – The board of a nonprofit organization on which Sen. Barack Obama served as a paid director alongside a confessed domestic terrorist granted funding to a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of Israel as a "catastrophe" and supports intense immigration reform, including providing drivers licenses and education to illegal aliens.

The co-founder of the Arab group in question, Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.

In 2001, the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based nonprofit that describes itself as a group helping the disadvantaged, provided a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN, for which Khalidi's wife, Mona, serves as president. The Fund provided a second grant to the AAAN for $35,000 in 2002.

Obama was a director of the Woods Fund board from 1999 to Dec. 11, 2002, according to the Fund's website. According to tax filings, Obama received compensation of $6,000 per year for his service in 1999 and 2000.

Obama served on the Wood's Fund board alongside William C. Ayers, a member of the Weathermen terrorist group which sought to overthrow of the U.S. government and took responsibility for bombing the U.S. Capitol in 1971.

Ayers, who still serves on the Woods Fund board, contributed $200 to Obama's senatorial campaign fund and has served on panels with Obama at numerous public speaking engagements. Ayers admitted to involvement in the bombings of U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s. He is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

The $40,000 grant from Obama's Woods Fund to the AAAN constituted about a fifth of the Arab group's reported grants for 2001, according to tax filings obtained by WND. The $35,000 Woods Fund grant in 2002 also constituted about one-fifth of AAAN's reported grants for that year.

The AAAN, headquartered in the heart of Chicago's Palestinian immigrant community, describes itself as working to "empower Chicago-area Arab immigrants and Arab Americans through the combined strategies of community organizing, advocacy, education and social services, leadership development, and forging productive relationships with other communities."

It reportedly has worked on projects with the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, which supports open boarders and education for illegal aliens.

The AAAN in 2005 sent a letter to New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson in which it called a billboard opposing a North Carolina-New Mexico joint initiative to deny driver's licenses to illegal aliens a "bigoted attack on Arabs and Muslims."

Speakers at AAAN dinners and events routinely have taken an anti-Israel line.

The group co-sponsored a Palestinian art exhibit, titled, "The Subject of Palestine," that featured works related to what some Palestinians call the "Nakba" or "catastrophe" of Israel's founding in 1948.

According to the widely discredited Nakba narrative, Jews in 1948 forcibly expelled hundreds of thousands - some Palestinians claim over one million - Arabs from their homes and then took over the territory.

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Historically, about 600,000 Arabs fled Israel after surrounding Arab countries warned they would destroy the Jewish state in 1948. Some Arabs also were driven out by Jewish forces while they were trying to push back invading Arab armies. At the same time, over 800,000 Jews were expelled or left Arab countries under threat after Israel was founded.

The theme of AAAN's Nakba art exhibit, held at DePaul University in 2005, was "the compelling and continuing tragedy of Palestinian life ... under [Israeli] occupation ... home demolition ... statelessness ... bereavement ... martyrdom, and ... the heroic struggle for life, for safety, and for freedom."

Another AAAN initiative, titled, "Al Nakba 1948 as experienced by Chicago Palestinians," seeks documents related to the "catastrophe" of Israel's founding.

A post on the AAAN site asked users: "Do you have photos, letters or other memories you could share about Al-Nakba-1948?"

That posting was recently removed. The AAAN website currently states the entire site is under construction.

Pro-PLO advocate held Obama fundraiser, describes Obama as 'sympathetic'

AAAN co-founder Rashid Khalidi was reportedly a director of the official PLO press agency WAFA in Beirut from 1976 to 1982, while the PLO committed scores of anti-Western attacks and was labeled by the U.S. as a terror group. Khalidi's wife, AAAN President Mona Khalidi, was reportedly WAFA's English translator during that period.

Rashid Khalidi at times has denied working directly for the PLO but Palestinian diplomatic sources in Ramallah told WND he indeed worked on behalf of WAFA. Khalidi also advised the Palestinian delegation to the Madrid Conference in 1991.

During documented speeches and public events, Khalidi has called Israel an "apartheid system in creation" and a destructive "racist" state.

He has multiple times expressed support for Palestinian terror, calling suicide bombings response to "Israeli aggression." He dedicated his 1986 book, "Under Siege," to "those who gave their lives ... in defense of the cause of Palestine and independence of Lebanon." Critics assailed the book as excusing Palestinian terrorism.

While the Woods Fund's contribution to Khalidi's AAAN might be perceived as a one-time run in with Obama, the presidential hopeful and Khalidi evidence a deeper relationship.

According to a professor at the University of Chicago who said he has known Obama for 12 years, the Democratic presidential hopeful first befriended Khalidi when the two worked together at the university. The professor spoke on condition of anonymity. Khalidi lectured at the University of Chicago until 2003 while Obama taught law there from 1993 until his election to the Senate in 2004.

Khalidi in 2000 held what was described as a successful fundraiser for Obama's failed bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, a fact not denied by Khalidi.

Speaking in a joint interview with WND and the John Batchelor Show of New York's WABC Radio and Los Angeles' KFI Radio, Khalidi was asked about his 2000 fundraiser for Obama.

"I was just doing my duties as a Chicago resident to help my local politician," Khalidi stated.

Khalidi said he supports Obama for president "because he is the only candidate who has expressed sympathy for the Palestinian cause."

Khalidi also lauded Obama for "saying he supports talks with Iran. If the U.S. can talk with the Soviet Union during the Cold War, there is no reason it can't talk with the Iranians."

Asked about Obama's role funding the AAAN, Khalidi claimed he had "never heard of the Woods Fund until it popped up on a bunch of blogs a few months ago."

He terminated the call when petitioned further about his links with Obama.

Contacted by phone, Mona Khalidi refused to answer WND's questions about the AAAN's involvement with Obama.

Obama's campaign headquarters did not reply to a list of WND questions sent by e-mail to the senator's press office.

Obama, American terrorist in same circles

Obama served on the board with Ayers, who was a Weathermen leader and has written about his involvement with the group's bombings of the New York City Police headquarters in 1970, the Capitol in 1971 and the Pentagon in 1972.

"I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough," Ayers told the New York Times in an interview released on Sept. 11, 2001

"Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon," Ayers wrote in his memoirs, titled "Fugitive Days." He continued with a disclaimer that he didn't personally set the bombs, but his group set the explosives and planned the attack.

A $200 campaign contribution is listed on April 2, 2001 by the "Friends of Barack Obama" campaign fund. The two taught appeared speaking together at several public events, including a 1997 University of Chicago panel entitled, "Should a child ever be called a 'super predator?'" and another panel for the University of Illinois in April 2002, entitled, "Intellectuals: Who Needs Them?"

The charges against Ayers were dropped in 1974 because of prosecutorial misconduct, including illegal surveillance.

Ayers is married to another notorious Weathermen terrorist, Bernadine Dohrn, who has also served on panels with Obama. Dohrn was once on the FBI's Top 10 Most Wanted List and was described by J. Edgar Hoover as the "most dangerous woman in America." Ayers and Dohrn raised the son of Weathermen terrorist Kathy Boudin, who was serving a sentence for participating in a 1981 murder and robbery that left 4 people dead.

Obama advisor wants talks with terrorists

The revelations about Obama's relationship with Khalidi follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

Malley, a principal Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for numerous policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.


Malley also previously penned a well-circulated New York Review of Books piece largely blaming Israel for the collapse of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations at Camp David in 2000 when Arafat turned down a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and eastern sections of Jerusalem and instead returned to the Middle East to launch an intifada, or terrorist campaign, against the Jewish state.

Malley's contentions have been strongly refuted by key participants at Camp David, including President Bill Clinton, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and primary U.S. envoy to the Middle East Dennis Ross, all of whom squarely blamed Arafat's refusal to make peace for the talks' failure.
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posted April 14, 2008 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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We know Obama's political guru was and probably still is a member of the Communist Party USA.

No, we don't know this, and frankly never have. It requires fact-checking as it is completely unverifiable by the average person.


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posted April 14, 2008 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't know that acoustic, it's because you simply can't read.

In O'Bomber's own book, he's called "uncle Frank". His real name is Frank Marshall Davis and he was and probably still is a member of the Communist Party USA. He's very well known down at Communist Party USA headquarters.

Seems you're about the only one who doesn't know on this forum. Lots of other people don't know because the leftist press has been protecting their own little socialist by a total failure to inform the public just who the hell this guy..O'Bomber really is.

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posted April 14, 2008 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In O'Bomber's own book, he's called "uncle Frank". His real name is Frank Marshall Davis and he was and probably still is a member of the Communist Party USA. He's very well known down at Communist Party USA headquarters.

Seems you're about the only one who doesn't know on this forum. Lots of other people don't know because the leftist press has been protecting their own little socialist by a total failure to inform the public just who the hell this guy..O'Bomber really is.


That's not true, Jwhop. You've posted about this before, and I went to fact-check it and found it to be impossible. I then sent it to two fact-checking entities to get to the bottom of it. Is your memory that short?

And like so much of what you post, you don't have a shred of evidence to back your claim that Frank Davis was ever known by or part of the Communist Party USA.

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posted April 14, 2008 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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By now, we all know Obama sat is a church with an outright racist, antisemitic, American hating pastor for about 20 years. We know he took his children to listen to this same bilge.

UGH!

No kidding my family doesn't want me to go to Columbia University...so much racism there just gross

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posted April 14, 2008 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Show me your so called fact checking which makes it impossible Davis was ever a member of the Communist Party USA acoustic.

Is this the same kind of fact check you were going to do with the Pew Poll. The fact checking you never shared with anyone here?

When the US House Committee on UnAmerican Activities identifies Davis as a member of Communist front groups...that's plenty good enough.

When a committee in the Hawaii Territory government identifies Davis as a member of the Communist Party USA..that's plenty good enough.

When those who knew Davis personally and knew about his membership in the Communist Party USA write about that association...that's plenty good enough

When a professor who spent his time researching Frank Davis writes about his membership in the Communist Party USA...that's plenty good enough.

Even one of those would be plenty good enough to identify Frank Davis...uncle Frank as a member of the Communist Party USA.

That says nothing at all about O'Bombers association with members of the Democratic Socialists of America. A group associated with the International Socialist movement.

All that's been written on this forum about O'Bomber is more than plenty to establish that O'Bombers friends, mentors and associates are a motley collection of Communists, Socialists, Domestic Terrorists, raving lunatic racists, antisemites, America haters and in the case of his financial guru, a soon to be felon.

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posted April 14, 2008 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well BUD, Columbia University is a real radical leftist snakepit. If I were one of your parents I would advise you to look elsewhere too.

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posted April 14, 2008 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Show me your so called fact checking which makes it impossible Davis was ever a member of the Communist Party USA acoustic.

Burden of proof is on the person making the claim. The guy who wrote that article you read didn't provide any proof, and you yourself can't provide any proof.

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Is this the same kind of fact check you were going to do with the Pew Poll. The fact checking you never shared with anyone here?

What are you referring to? Me writing them to solve our debate? What's to share? They didn't write me back. They did, on the other hand, provide more history on American attitudes, and it would appear that I was right based on that.

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When the US House Committee on UnAmerican Activities identifies Davis as a member of Communist front groups...that's plenty good enough.

Wrong. It would be good enough if the U.S. House committee had proof, and if that proof was public. As it stands, we don't if the now defunct HUAC was aware of Frank Davis nor what their assessment was.

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When a committee in the Hawaii Territory government identifies Davis as a member of the Communist Party USA..that's plenty good enough.

Once again: wrong. If we had access to the information they had access to, then we could ascertain something. As it stands we don't have a single verification available on this.

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When those who knew Davis personally and knew about his membership in the Communist Party USA write about that association...that's plenty good enough

None has been brought forth thus far.

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When a professor who spent his time researching Frank Davis writes about his membership in the Communist Party USA...that's plenty good enough.

When a professor speculates, you mean?

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I'm just asking for proof. If you can't find it, why should I believe the people you are trying to cite can find it?

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posted April 14, 2008 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Show me your so called fact checking which makes it impossible Davis was ever a member of the Communist Party USA acoustic.
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Burden of proof is on the person making the claim....acoustic

That's right acoustic, the burden of proof falls to the person making the claim. YOU'RE making the claim it was impossible for Davis to have been a member of the Communist Party USA. Where's your proof?

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When the US House Committee on UnAmerican Activities identifies Davis as a member of Communist front groups...that's plenty good enough.
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Wrong. It would be good enough if the U.S. House committee had proof, and if that proof was public. As it stands, we don't if the now defunct HUAC was aware of Frank Davis nor what their assessment was...acoustic quote:

The HUAC was definitely aware of Davis...or they wouldn't have identified Davis as a member of Communist groups. They didn't and don't have to satisfy your absurd requirements for proof. This was a US Congressional House Committee.

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When a committee in the Hawaii Territory government identifies Davis as a member of the Communist Party USA..that's plenty good enough.
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Once again: wrong. If we had access to the information they had access to, then we could ascertain something. As it stands we don't have a single verification available on this...acoustic

Again, the Territorial Government of Hawaii doesn't have to meet your impossible level of proof. Who the hell do you think you are that these representatives of the Territory of Hawaii need to satisfy you about anything. God, such arrogance is only found in lame brained morons of the left.

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When a professor who spent his time researching Frank Davis writes about his membership in the Communist Party USA...that's plenty good enough.
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When a professor speculates, you mean...acoustic?

If this is what you call mere speculation, then all of history is speculation. Don't ever and I mean never use a historical quote or relate what you believe to be a historical fact on this forum or I will rip your ass.

Frank Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA. Frank Davis was the political guru of Barak Obama. The entire fabric of Obama's life revolves around socialist radicals, domestic terrorists and a raving lunatic pastor preaching a Liberation Theology.

Obama is just as much a leftist radical as his friends and associates. He's proved that with his socialist policies he wants to implement....just to make America better.

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posted April 14, 2008 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's right acoustic, the burden of proof falls to the person making the claim. YOU'RE making the claim it was impossible for Davis to have been a member of the Communist Party USA. Where's your proof?

Don't be absurd. I wasn't the one to bring up Frank Davis. You were. The so-called "fact" you wished to state was that he was a known member of the Communist Party. As such, it is on YOU to prove it.

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The HUAC was definitely aware of Davis...or they wouldn't have identified Davis as a member of Communist groups. They didn't and don't have to satisfy your absurd requirements for proof. This was a US Congressional House Committee.

Do you have a link to the transcripts from HUAC? No, you don't. Most governmental documents are pretty easy to find. I can't find this evidence however. Can you?

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Again, the Territorial Government of Hawaii doesn't have to meet your impossible level of proof. Who the hell do you think you are that these representatives of the Territory of Hawaii need to satisfy you about anything. God, such arrogance is only found in lame brained morons of the left

Said the man who hasn't found a single website, or shred of scanned documents corroborating what he is saying. We all know that I can provide links for the things I put forth. Why is it such a herculean feat for you to do the same. There's no arrogance in having the desire for someone to suss out what they're trying to assert as fact.

Arrogance would be posting the words of someone without proof, but with an agenda, and expecting everyone to just believe it at face value.

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If this is what you call mere speculation, then all of history is speculation. Don't ever and I mean never use a historical quote or relate what you believe to be a historical fact on this forum or I will rip your ass.

You presume a position of power which you don't have. I'm not the one putting forward outrageous allegations without any backup. You are.

As I said before, if I were to make a similar allegation with the same amount of so-called "proof" that you're providing, you wouldn't let me get away with it either, right?

So what's my motivation to let you get away with it?

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Quite a lot of mismanaged facts:

a) Hamas isn't only comprised of a militant faction. There is a political front to it as well which does not follow upon the extremist side of it all. To open a dialouge with these people might curb Hamas militants from carrying out attacks.

b) The Palestinian Liberation Front WAS labled a dangerous group; Emphisis on "was." Along the time, the tensions in the region were quite high. However, its now a more moderate political front.

c) Not all speakers of AAAN have taken Anti-Israeli views. There always will be a select few members who have a more radical stand on the issue concerning with Israel but not all. For the most part, the AAAN has been an integral part in helping people make a meaningful contribution to the American Society.

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posted April 14, 2008 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's not true, Jwhop. You've posted about this before, and I went to fact-check it and found it to be impossible....acoustic

Well acoustic, you said you have proof Frank davis couldn't possibly have been a member of the Communist Party USA..."impossible you say".

You can present that "proof" and win this argument right now. How about you put up or shut up?

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posted April 14, 2008 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Xodian, are you actually attempting to convince anyone Hamas is not really Hamas?

Are you actually attempting to say Hamas political and Hamas terrorists are unrelated to each other.

Pleeeease

They're the very same bunch of terrorist thug murderers.

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Sure they are. Not all representitives from Hamas' political front agree with the militant actions taken by Hamas. There is a difference Jwhop and I am not talking about the ones in power right now. Actually these representitives have been quite vocal on their concerns with militants and how they are only tearing the prospects of Palestenian youth apart.

Yes, there is a moderate Hamas faction.

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Well acoustic, you said you have proof Frank davis couldn't possibly have been a member of the Communist Party USA..."impossible you say".

You've posted about this before, and I went to fact-check it and found it to be impossible. I then sent it to two fact-checking entities to get to the bottom of it.

You misread what I wrote (or I miswrote what you read if you prefer ). I was stating that fact-checking your assertion was impossible, not that it was impossible that Frank Davis was a member of the Community Party USA. That's why I sent the article to two fact-checking entities: because I couldn't fact check it myself.

That's why I don't believe you'll be able to fact-check it either.

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You can present that "proof" and win this argument right now. How about you put up or shut up?

How about YOU put up or shut up? You don't have anything more than I have.

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posted April 14, 2008 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>>>Who is the Real

Obama is Thomas Jefferson returned. Ready to abolish first and second amendment - LOL

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posted April 14, 2008 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NosiS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Easy there, Mannu...

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Of course you couldn't fact check that Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA. They don't advertise their membership lists you know. After all this communist group were considered subversive, taking money and orders from the Soviet Union.

OK, you believe what you want to believe and everyone else can believe what they want to believe too.

I believe Barak Obama is the most far left radical ever to run for President of the United States, that his policies would be pure poison and that Obama is a stealth candidate of the far radical left.

I also believe Obama will never be president. That the truth of his inexperience, his radical statements and his elitist attitudes are coming out now. If he's the demoscat nominee, I think McCain will eat him for lunch.

Jefferson would spit in Obama's eye Mannu. You must be either drunk or high or have never read a word Jefferson had to say.

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O'Bomer's main support in this campaign comes from very far left radicals, including those associated with domestic terrorism, those who gave money to enemies we were fighting against in Iraq and other loony tunes leftist socialists.

Obama's Greenbacks from Code Pink
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, April 15, 2008

IF THE MEDIA WERE COMPETENT, THE NAME JODIE EVANS would be as well-known as Jeremiah Wright.

According to Ralph Nader’s Public Citizen, Evans has bundled “at least $50,000” in donations for Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign. “Bundling” is a process in which people turn over a large number of “individual” political contributions as a group, in the hope of exerting greater influence if their candidate is elected.

According to Human Events reporter Catherine Moy, “Evans and her son, a student who lives at her Southern California address, each also gave the maximum individual allowable donation of $2,300 to Obama’s campaign.”

And who is Jodie Evans? A former political appointee of Jerry Brown during his tenure as governor of California and his presidential campaigns, Evans briefly made headlines in 2003 by arranging for women to claim Arnold Schwarzenegger groped them. However, she has kept lower company for the last few years. Her official biography states “her life has been consumed with Codepink: Women for Peace since September of 2002.”

In fact, Evans is a co-founder of the antiwar radical group Code Pink with Medea Benjamin. As I reported at the time, Evans and Code Pink delivered $600,000 in cash and supplies to “the other side” in Fallujah in December 2004. Rep. Henry Waxman, D-CA, signed the letter to get them to that city, a recent battlefield and stronghold for terrorists killing American soldiers.

In August 2006, she joined 11 other far-leftists in a Code Pink-sponsored trip to meet Iraqi “political leaders” with Benjamin, Cindy Sheehan, and Tom Hayden. Team member Geoffrey Millard referred to this trip as “diplomatic communication,” making such a trip potentially illegal, violating the prohibition for private citizens to conduct their own foreign policy. Among Iraqi parliamentarians, they met:

Sheikh Ahmad al-Kubaysi, who once declared foreign-born jihadists killing U.S. soldiers “very brave.” He added, “These Mujahideen are guaranteed Paradise.” He is said to have given militia leader Moqtada al-Sadr $50 million.
Saleh al-Mutlaq, the trip’s prime sponsor, who chided Americans for trying “to brand as terrorists the honorable national resistance movements,” adding, “We cannot give peace.”
Code Pink announced after this trip, “We left this historic meeting with a commitment to make sure that the voices of these Iraqi parliamentarians are heard here in the U.S.” Indeed, one delegation member, a DailyKos blogger who ran for Congress in 2006, blogged, “if justice is to ever come to the people of Iraq, the people we call insurgents will have to be recognized as the ones who are actually defending their homeland.”

Evans took the opportunity to praise Iraq…under Saddam Hussein:


Let’s go back to the Iraq before we invaded, there was a good education and health care system, food for everyone. That system didn’t belong to Saddam it belonged to the Iraqi, it belonged to years of creating what a civilization needed. If your parents didn’t send you to school they could be put in jail.

That Evans could write such words about a regime that often forced parents to watch their children being raped and tortured – even if they were favorable to Saddam’s government – strains credulity, but not more than anonymous allegations that American soldiers were plundering murderers.

Evans related that one nameless source told her, “We witnessed with our own experience how American tanks used to break Universities and asked people to loot them.”

Such operations were part of her long-term plan to sap American soldiers in Iraq of their will to fight. I also reported in July 2003, Jodie Evans sits on the Advisory Board of Iraq Occupation Watch (IOW), a group formed by Castroites Medea Benjamin and Leslie Cagan to convince American soldiers in Iraq to declare themselves “conscientious objectors” and get sent home. IOW similarly spread propaganda stories about American “atrocities” and emphasize stories of antiwar demonstrations at home to demoralize U.S. troops in battle.

Not limited to fawning over Middle Eastern dictators, Evans joined with Cindy Sheehan and Medea Benjamin to meet Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez in January 2006. Chavez, Sheehan claimed, was “a democratically elected leader who is very popular in his country.” (He is popular. Or else.) She and her fellow Code Pink radicals met with Chavez during the visit and even praised his singing voice.

As Jean Pearce has noted on FrontPage, Evans is also institutionally tied to Mike Roselle through as a Director of the Rainforest Action Network. Roselle is the founder of the domestic terrorist organization Earth Liberation Front (ELF), “which along with the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) is ranked the No. 1 domestic terrorism threat by the FBI. The FBI attributes over 600 criminal acts and $43 million in damages to the two groups since 1996.”

Now she has found a new champion: Barack Obama. If he has any sense of decency, Obama should repudiate Evans. At a minimum, he should return her bundled contributions.

It is significant that Obama, his lapel stripped of any American flag pin, is a magnet for anti-American radicals like Evans, Wright, and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. Obama’s platform for near-instantaneous withdrawal from Iraq has increased his stock with Code Pink volunteers and, undoubtedly, their Iraqi counterparts. When those who hate this country need a domestic political front, they know who to call on: the Party of Defeat. Following Obama’s instructions, Jodie Evans has placed her “hope” in him. She longs for Americans to buy into his vapid elocutions and meaningless platitudes. And she is willing to put their money where her mouth is.

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posted April 15, 2008 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Theres a theory circulating in USA to go back to only the declaration of independence.

You guys haven't heard?

Its a brilliant idea.

Time to clean the Eagle's nest before it returns from Iraq.

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I haven't heard, you haven't heard, no one has heard because that idea sprang straight from your little fantasyland bubble world.

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Long-lost article by Obama's dad surfaces .


Barack Obama’s dad was such an important but absent figure in his life that he devoted his first book, “Dreams From My Father,” to the search for details about his father’s life and how the quest helped forge a son’s identity.

Now, a long-forgotten essay written 43 years ago by Obama’s father has surfaced, and its contents reveal much — not only about the senior Obama’s grasp of economic theory but also about the iconoclastic politics that, his son would later write, sent him into the spiral of career disappointment that concluded with his death in 1982 in his native Kenya.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080415/pl_politico/9610

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Obama’s Red Mentor Praised Red Army
AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | April 7, 2008

This pro-Communist view appears to have been the mindset of Frank Marshall Davis, who spent many hours advising and reading poetry to a young Barack Obama.

Barack Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA, wrote a poem dedicated to the Soviet Red Army. “Smash on, victory-eating Red Army,” he declared. He also wrote poems attacking traditional Christianity and the work of Christian missionaries.

The “Red Army” poem goes beyond hoping for the communists to beat the Nazis in World War II and hails the Soviet revolution. It says:

“Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!”

One Davis poem, “Christ is a Dixie Nigger,” dismisses Christ as “another New White Hope” and declares:

“Remember this, you wise guys
Your tales about Jesus of Nazareth are no-go with me
I’ve got a dozen Christs in Dixie all bloody and black…”

The revelations about Davis’ poetry will add to the controversy over what kind of role Davis played in shaping Obama’s political views. Davis (1905-1987) seems to have had the same kind of anti-American outlook that animated Obama’s longtime pastor, Jeremiah Wright. In fact, Davis was pro-Soviet, not just anti-American.

The controversial poems are included in the book, Black Moods, a collection edited by John Edgar Tidwell, a professor at the University of Kansas and expert on Davis’s writings and career. He confirms that Davis joined the Communist Party but that he publicly tried to deny his communist affiliations.

Davis’ poem, “To the Red Army,” says that “rich industrialists” in Washington and London wanted Hitler to win and “wipe Communism from the globe.”

One Davis poem, “Onward Christian Soldiers,” mocks the Christian hymn by the same name. It talks of Africans being killed with a “Christian gun” instead of a spear by the missionaries following “the religion of Sweet Jesus.” Another Davis poem refers to Christians “who buy righteousness like groceries.”

Davis’ writings have become an issue because he became a father-figure to Obama, who is the leading Democratic candidate for president of the U.S., during their time in Hawaii. Obama acknowledges in his book, Dreams From My Father, that he knew and accepted advice from a black poet named “Frank” but doesn’t identify “Frank” by his full name. However, several sources, including Professor Gerald Horne and Dr. Kathryn Takara, have confirmed that “Frank” was in fact Frank Marshall Davis. Trevor Loudon, a New Zealand-based libertarian activist, researcher and blogger, first noted evidence that “Frank” was Frank Marshall Davis in a posting in March of 2007.

In remarks at a reception of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) archives at the Tamiment Library at New York University, Horne, a contributing editor of the Communist Party journal Political Affairs, asserted that Davis had come into contact with Obama and his family in Hawaii and became the young man’s mentor, influencing his sense of identity and career path.

Obama writes in Dreams From My Father that he saw “Frank” only a few days before he left Hawaii for college. He said that Davis called college an “advanced degree in compromise,” warned Obama not to forget his “people,” and not to “start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that ####.”

As we noted in a previous article, the record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where he developed his close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, and listened to his “poetry” and views.

But in the same way that he fails to identify “Frank” as Frank Marshall Davis, Obama says nothing about the nature of this “poetry.” However, Tidwell says that several Davis’ poems were viewed as “subversive” by the FBI and that they help explain why it monitored his activities. Tidwell says that the FBI maintained a file on Davis.

One Davis poem, “Peace Quiz for America,” includes the lines:

“Uncle Sam, Uncle Sam
Why did you send me against Axis foes
In the death-kissed foxholes
Of New Guinea and Europe
Without shielding my back
From the sniping Dixie lynchers
In the jungles of Texas and Florida?”

Tidwell asserts that Davis was a “closet” member of the CPUSA and that it’s not clear how long he stayed in the party.

The Senate Internal Security Subcommittee (SISS) reprinted the 1953 and 1954 Reports of the Commission on Subversive Activities of the Territory of Hawaii, which refer to Davis as “an identified member of the Communist Party” who was affiliated with a number of Communist fronts and circulated “inflammatory racial propaganda.” Davis also wrote columns for the Honolulu Record, a Communist paper. These were described as “unrelenting and unmitigated complaints of racial discrimination in the United States.” Davis was labeled “a bitter opponent of capitalism” and “staunch defender” of communists and communist sympathizers.

Max Friedman, a longtime writer and researcher on internal security affairs, discovered that Davis testified in 1956 before the SISS and took the Fifth Amendment on his Communist Party membership.

The House Committee on Un-American Activities (HCUA) took testimony in 1950 from a member of the Honolulu branch of the NAACP, Edward Berman, who said that Davis had showed up to “propagandize” its membership about alleged “racial problems.” Berman referred to “Comrade Davis” as someone who “sneaked” into the NAACP meetings “with the avowed intent and purpose of converting it into a front for the Stalinist line.”

Tidwell says that Davis “felt betrayed” when Soviet dictator Stalin signed the 1939 nonaggression pact with Nazi Germany, which triggered World War II, but that Stalin’s eventual decision to join the U.S. and its allies in a war on the Axis powers “restored a measure of Davis’ confidence in the USSR.”

Another book, The New Red Negro, by James Edward Smethurst, says that while Davis had said he was disturbed by the Hitler-Stalin pact, he did not leave the CPUSA in protest over it.

Tidwell maintains that Davis moved to Hawaii from Chicago, Illinois, in 1948 under “the governmental pressure of McCarthyism,” a reference to anti-communist Senator Joe McCarthy. However, the SISS and the HCUA had nothing to do with McCarthy’s committee, which was the Permanent Investigations Subcommittee of the Senate’s Government Operations Committee.

In fact, McCarthy didn’t emerge as a figure in the anti-communist movement until 1950.

The SISS hearings were held for the purpose of determining the “Scope of Soviet Activity in the United States.”

William Rusher, who served as associate counsel to the SISS in 1956-1957, has written that “It is hard for most people to imagine the influence that even a relatively small number of dedicated people can have, but the CPUSA exerted significant power in its heyday—a heyday, be it remembered, in which the Soviet Union impressed many people as the wave of the future, destined to overwhelm a weak and fading West, including the United States.”

This pro-Communist view appears to have been the mindset of Frank Marshall Davis, who spent many hours advising and reading poetry to a young Barack Obama.
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-red-mentor-praised-red-army/

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That's interesting Juni. I haven't seen that old paper written by Obama's father before.

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April 15, 2008 12:00 AM
A Living Lie
Obama's controversial statements in San Francisco are perfectly in line with his Senate record.


By Thomas Sowell

An e-mail from a reader said that, while Hillary Clinton tells lies, Barack Obama is himself a lie. That is becoming painfully apparent with each new revelation of how drastically his carefully crafted image this election year contrasts with what he has actually been saying and doing for many years.

Senator Obama’s election-year image is that of a man who can bring the country together, overcoming differences of party or race, as well as solving our international problems by talking with Iran and other countries with which we are at odds, and performing other miscellaneous miracles as needed.

There is, of course, not a speck of evidence that Obama has ever transcended party differences in the U.S. Senate. Voting records analyzed by the National Journal show him to be the farthest left of anyone in the Senate. Nor has he sponsored any significant bipartisan legislation — nor any other significant legislation, for that matter.

Senator Obama is all talk — glib talk, exciting talk, confident talk — but still just talk.

Some of his recent talk in San Francisco has stirred up controversy because it revealed yet another blatant contradiction between Barack Obama’s public image and his reality.

Speaking privately to supporters in heavily left-liberal San Francisco, Obama let down his hair and described working class people in Pennsylvania as so “bitter” that they “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them.”

Like so much that Obama has said and done over the years, this is standard stuff on the far Left, where guns and religion are regarded as signs of psychological dysfunction — and where opinions different from those of the Left are ascribed to emotions (“bitter” in this case), rather than to arguments that need to be answered.

Like so many others on the Left, Obama rejects “stereotypes” when they are stereotypes he doesn’t like but blithely throws around his own stereotypes about “a typical white person” or “bitter” gun-toting, religious, and racist working-class people.

In politics, the clearer a statement is, the more certain it is to be followed by a “clarification,” when people react adversely to what was plainly said.

Obama and his supporters were still busy “clarifying” Jeremiah Wright’s very plain statements when it suddenly became necessary to “clarify” Senator Obama’s own statements in San Francisco.

People who have been cheering whistle-blowers for years have suddenly denounced the person who blew the whistle on what Obama said in private that is so contradictory to what he has been saying in public.

However inconsistent Obama’s words, his behavior has been remarkably consistent over the years. He has sought out and joined with the radical, anti-Western Left —whether Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers of the terrorist Weatherman underground, or pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli Rashid Khalidi.

Obama is also part of a long tradition on the Left of being for the working class in the abstract, or as people potentially useful for the purposes of the Left, but having disdain or contempt for them as human beings.

Karl Marx said, “The working class is revolutionary or it is nothing.” In other words, they mattered only in so far as they were willing to carry out the Marxist agenda.

Fabian socialist George Bernard Shaw included the working class among the “detestable” people who “have no right to live.” He added: “I should despair if I did not know that they will all die presently, and that there is no need on earth why they should be replaced by people like themselves.”

Similar statements on the Left go back as far as Rousseau in the 18th century and come forward into our own times.

It is understandable that young people are so strongly attracted to Obama. Youth is another name for inexperience — and experience is what is most needed when dealing with skillful and charismatic demagogues.

Those of us old enough to have seen the type again and again over the years can no longer find them exciting. Instead, they are as tedious as they are dangerous.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NWZlODViYjQ0ZDBjNTZlMjM4ZjM2MmU4MjA4ZWUyOGU=

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