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ListensToTrees
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posted May 02, 2008 08:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDUMEEl_ajM&feature=related

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posted May 02, 2008 08:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Secret_Rulers_Of_The_World_The_Bilderberg_Group
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3725493129921826227&q=bilderberg&ei=uKwbSMWKLZT6iwLZ0c2xAQ

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posted May 22, 2008 09:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Turning Of The Tide (includes information about the Bilderberg Group).
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6334005121196324215&q =The+Turning+Of+The+Tide&ei=i3M1SLSdD5WiiALl65jjCQ

Exposing the real story behind global events, which shape the future of human existence and the world we leave our children. The veil lifts on an astonishing web of interconnected manipulation to reveal that the same few people, secret societies and organizations control the daily direction of our lives, & how the same people on apparently different sides of politics are actually connected to the same elite organizations. These organizations have the same proven agenda of a world government, a world central bank, a world army, a world currency, and some say a micro-chipped population. "OPPO-SAMES" These apparent opposites in politics are there to persuade us that we are not living in a prison, that we have a choice. Yet these persons are not opposites at all but are part of a one-party state. The last two US Presidents were apparently opposites and on different sides - Bill Clinton and George Bush - yet they were both heavily involved within the same elite organizations. David Icke explains: "What happens in practice is that if you look at all the dogmas in all cultures, all societies have what I call a 'hassle-free zone.' It is that area within any culture, within each dogma (religious, economic, political etc) wherein if you conform to it, you are in the comfort zone. No one's going to laugh at you, condemn you for being different, or for expressing your uniqueness, because you are locked into the herd mentality, and you are conforming to what you are told you should be and do. When you step out of this mind-set and express your unique aspect of all that exists and refuse to be frightened, or controlled, you immediately face ridicule or condemnation as I have in England." "THE SHEEPLE" "Whatever happened to living? The vast majority of people, rich and poor, on this planet are enslaved. Enslaved by the system's robotic programming, its economic imprisonment, and by their own refusal to think, question and find the liberation that comes with an open mind. We don't live in a free society, we live as robots in a society in which you are free to do what the society wants you to do - produce and consume - that's the reality." A "MUST READ" book for understanding how the fraud really affects you and what you can do about it:
http://mhkeehn.tripod.com/MBRestructured.pdf

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posted May 22, 2008 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David Icke

Icke argues that he has developed a moral and political worldview that combines New Age spiritualism with a passionate denunciation of what he sees as totalitarian trends in the modern world, a position that has been described as "New Age conspiracism."[2]

At the heart of Icke's theories is the view that the world is ruled by a secret group called the "Global Elite" or "Illuminati," which he has linked to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, an antisemitic hoax.[3][4] In 1999, he published The Biggest Secret, in which he wrote that the Illuminati are a race of reptilian humanoids known as the Babylonian Brotherhood, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.[3][5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

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posted May 22, 2008 10:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"In 1954, the most powerful men in the world met for the first time under the auspices of the Dutch royal crown and the Rockefeller family at the luxurious Hotel Bilderberg in the small Dutch town of Oosterbeck. For an entire weekend, the debated the future of the world. When it was over, they decided to meet once every year to exchange ideas and analyze international affairs. They named themselves the Bilderberg Group. Since then, they have gathered yearly in a luxurious hotel somewhere in the world to try to decide the future of humanity. Among the select members of this club are Bill Clinton, Paul Wolfowitz, Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Tony Blair and many other heads of government, businessmen, politicians, bankers and journalists from all over the world," writes journalist Daniel Estulin in the opening paragraph of the introduction to his must-read book, The True Story of the Bilderberg Group.

"Nevertheless, in the more than fifty years of their meetings, the press has never been allowed to attend, no statements have ever been released on the attendees' conclusions, nor has any agenda for a Bilderberg meeting been made public," Estulin notes.

For some 15 years, Estulin has been a thorn in the sides of the Bilderbergers, relentlessly hunting down their secret meeting places, gaining inside sources who divulge what goes on behind closed doors, even photographing attendees and publicly disclosing it all. Now he has put it all in a book that every person who values freedom and democracy should read.

The Bilderbergers are so secretive that they even try to hide, until the last minute, the location of their gathering places. Attendance is by invitation only and if an invitee's name is publicly disclosed beforehand, he or she is disinvited.
Perhaps these three quotes will explain what the secrecy is all about. The Times of London in 1977 called the Bilderbergers "a clique of the richest, economically and politically most powerful and influential men in the Western world, who meet secretly to plan events that later appear just to happen."

Said Bilderberg Group founder Prince Bernhard of The Netherlands, "It is difficult to re-educate people who have been brought up on nationalism to the idea of relinquishing part of their sovereignty to a supranational body." (The late prince has been replaced by his daughter, Queen Beatrix, who regularly attends the Bilderberg meetings.)

Former British Defense Minister Denis Healey, put it this way, "World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings."

Every US president since Eisenhower has either belonged to the Bilderberg Group or its older parallel group, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), or been approved by them. As Estulin wrote, the race is no contest when you own both horses. That is why no matter which political party is in power nothing really changes other than the packaging. The puppets who drink at the champagne fountains of the powerful do the bidding of their masters. The people are superfluous to the process.

And it's not just in the US. The Bilderberg Group and its parallel groups, among which are the CFR, the Trilateral Commission (founded by David Rockefeller and Brzezinski), the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) based at Chatham House in London, and their interlocking memberships are at work throughout the Western world and are endeavoring to get their hooks into the rest. The European Union is their baby.

When Bilderberger Margaret Thatcher, the high priestess of privatization, balked on adopting the euro as the UK's currency, the Bilderbergers had her dumped as prime minister and replaced by John Major.

Like the CFR, which in the course of its history has embraced and financed the Bolsheviks, Communists, Socialists, Nazis and fascists, the Bilderbergers also play all sides. Thus, in 1980, the Bilderbergers decided François Mitterand was to be resurrected and restored to power as France's next president. After attending the 1999 Bilderberg meeting, Romano Prodi was sworn in as president of Europe in the fall of that year; when his termed ended in 2005, he was elected prime minister of Italy.

Estulin makes it clear that these people will use any means – legal or illegal – in pursuit of their goal of total subjugation to their New World Order or One World Company, as they prefer to call it: wars, coups, assassinations; control of banking, finance, business, the media, education (dumbing down all but an elite needed to run things) and even religion to keep people in check.

He notes that David Rockefeller said in his Memoirs, "Some even believe we are a part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it."

Incorporated in this group are the neoconservatives -- "those who have determined that Israel's security should come at the expense of the safety to the United States and be central to all US foreign policy decisions." Richard Perle is a regular attendee at Bilderberg meetings. Michael Ledeen attended the 2005 meeting.

Media moguls such as Rupert Murdock, the now disgraced Conrad Black, Viacom (parent company of CBS) CEO Sumner Redstone, the Washington Post's Katherine Graham (now deceased), Washington Post columnists Jim Hoagland and Charles Krauthammer, New York Times Editor Arthur Sulzberger and columnist Thomas L. Friedman, William F. Buckley, Jr., and Bill Moyers have all been Bilderberg meeting invitees.

"The ideas and policies that come out of the Bilderberg annual meetings are used to generate the news in the leading periodicals and news groups of the world. The point is to make the prevalent opinions of the Bilderbergers so appealing that they become public policy and to pressure world leaders unto submitting to the 'needs of the Masters of the Universe.' The 'free world press' is completely at the mercy of the Bilderbergers disseminating the agreed upon propaganda," Estulin points out.

This is just a smattering of the information Estulin has managed to pack into his well-written 340-page book, complete with photographs, documents and an index.

If all this seems far-fetched, look around. America has been stripped of its industrial base. The good jobs have been or are being offshored, while Americans are working harder and longer at service sector jobs for less pay and fewer to no benefits. Americans have been dumbed down in public and private schools, universities and colleges. Their only worth now is as consumers of mainly foreign made goods. They are kept in check by religion, sports, idiotic "reality" TV, video games and anything else that turns off thinking.

Democracy, freedom and national sovereignty are anathema to the wannabe masters of the universe. But the Bilderbergers and their parallel groups and allied think tanks have been working to do away with all three. Elections have been rigged. The US, Canada and Great Britain are on the verge of becoming police states, The US, Canada and Great Britain are on the verge of becoming police states, thanks to the bogus "war on terror" used to pump up people's fears. All that remains in their grand plan is to replace the last vestiges of sovereign nations with a series of regional unions that they will control via the United Nations, outlawing all nationalism.

But they may have overplayed their hand, as the grand scheme is fraying around the edges. Not all Europeans are ready to surrender their countries' sovereignty to the EU. Canadians who know more about the plan for a North American Union than Americans are diametrically opposed to it. A revitalized Russia, which has a historical wariness of outsiders, has its own ideas. And despite all the Western investment in China, Beijing is proving to be a problem in its refusal to float the yuan to bail out the financial mess the greedy Bilderberger bankers and financiers have made, which may explain the Carlyle Group's sale of 9.9 percent of itself to the Chinese as a hoped for hook to bring China to their table.

As the old adage says, knowledge is power, and Daniel Estulin is providing every reader of The True Story of the Bilderberg Group with the knowledge they need to aid in destroying the Bilderbergers' grand plan by bringing it to the attention of family, friends and colleagues. It is up to us to get this book into as many hands as possible, because Estulin will get no help promoting it from the corporate media.

Collectively, the people hold the power save themselves and that frightens the Bilderbergers and their cohorts the most. But that power is useless if the people refuse to exercise it or surrender it to those who would enslave us.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7781

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posted May 22, 2008 04:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David Icke - Predictions He Made, That Have Come True:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sbs4vRXycE&feature=related

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posted May 22, 2008 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hurricanes have been predicted for the Gulf of Mexico for more than 100 years. Some prediction for Icke.

Sons generally do not follow fathers into the presidency of the United States. Just utter and total bullshiiit. 2 instances in about 240 years. First Adams and Adams and now Bush and Bush separated by about 200 years. Big F-ing deal.

More bullshiit. Islamic terrorists attacked the United States all through the 1990's, and finally on 9/11. The American response was the right response...but a response delayed by the impotent, ball-less Clinton as he sat on his ass for 8 years and did nothing.
Lots of people were predicting an attack on America so Icke gets no points.

Now LTT, when are you going to be willing to talk about this nuts theory that there are shape shifting space alien reptiles among us? You ever see one?

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posted May 22, 2008 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pray tell, does Icke rhyme with icky?
I have always pronounced his name as icky from the moment I heard of him

Must be a reason behind it.


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posted May 23, 2008 07:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop, I believe that the theory of the existence of "shape-shifting" reptilians is neither provable nor disprovable, unless you are a person who has really seen it with your own eyes along with others who saw it with you.

Of course it sounds totally ludicrous, but this in itself is not reason enough to say that such a thing can't have any truth in it and that's that.

I do think it is very possible that David Icke could have been fed bits of misinformation along the way, in an attempt to make him seem less credible and steer the general population away from his work. I just don't know for sure about that- but either way I am not going to let it prevent me from listening to the abundance of knowledge and wisdom he surely does have to offer.

We should all use our own minds and hearts after anything we have read or listened to. David Icke has emphasized in his interviews that he does NOT want anybody to "follow" him. Because if anyone does, then they haven't been listening to what he's been saying.

So, in case you are wondering, the answer is that much of what David Icke says resonates with me, by listening with my own heart. However, some of what he says feels more uncertain- and these are the things I will allow myself to be guided into finding my own answers to, at the "allotted time", as one would say.

One of these things I wanted to know about was in regards to the existence of Jesus and what the Zeitgeist film says about him. Since my heart desired to find out more about this, I have stumbled across some very interesting sources, including a documentary made recently regarding new groundbreaking findings on the Turin Shroud.

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posted May 23, 2008 07:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"What happens in practice is that if you look at all the dogmas in all cultures, all societies have what I call a 'hassle-free zone.' It is that area within any culture, within each dogma (religious, economic, political etc) wherein if you conform to it, you are in the comfort zone. No one's going to laugh at you, condemn you for being different, or for expressing your uniqueness, because you are locked into the herd mentality, and you are conforming to what you are told you should be and do. When you step out of this mind-set and express your unique aspect of all that exists and refuse to be frightened, or controlled, you immediately face ridicule or condemnation"

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