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Topic: Why America needs a liberal president?
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2008 07:02 PM
Ok..I have said so many bad things about Obama and other democrats. I will start with good things about why America needs them. Obama stands for abortion rights. This is against conservatism. I honestly have to congratulate Obama for standing for this right of woman and benefitting the society.Why must a mother ever give birth to a child she cannot support nor give happiness to? The government is not a mother nor the society a mother to look after the baby after he/she is born. Obama is half right when he says why punish the mother? The other truth is why punish the baby lets say from being born in to trash (in a world of overpopulation, unemployment, poverty , etc if thats the case) If its too late for abortion then these babies can be available for adoption to the gay couples who are allowed to marry in some states or allowed civil unions. Mother and Father are just biological. Why can't same sex couples raise a child the same way as heterosexuals can, when one of them decides to be the compassionate one , the nourisher? J whip sorry Jwhop must be asking me to stop this bullshiit... Hahaha....
Well, you terminate enemies in the battlefield and not bat an eye ? Then why bat an eye when the foetus is killed that is not even a baby yet? I say, No one must be born and left to die in the trash. As Americans how can we see that happening? Lets legalize Abortion in all states.
The way America capitalism is evolving must be a model for rest of nations here on earth. The same way, american moralism must be a model for rest of the world. European nations are already ahead of us. America can correct them and evolve it better. Just as Lenin had predicted that communism would go to London from Moscow via Calcutta. Similarly I wish, moralism goes to rest of the world via washington dc. I understand that countries like Netherlands etc are way ahead of US on those liberal values. America can really do a lot as a nation. I think I gave enough theory to the revolutionaries of this country No revolutionary theory , no movement - Lenin
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2008 11:37 PM
No Mannu, I like it when those without the power of reason mount their soapbox and expel the contents of their minds through their lower orifice.Do carry on. IP: Logged |
Dervish Knowflake Posts: 625 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 18, 2008 01:58 AM
Just my suspicion, but I think jwhop is being provoked here, that this thread is more about waving a red flag in front of a bull rather than just making a political statement. Quoting Lenin in support of liberalism AND abortion TWICE was definitely overkill that made me suspicious. I think it's kinda funny, but then I'm not 100% sober right now. For the record, I think jwhop gave the best answer possible, too, but again, I'm not fully sober. Anyway, off to hook the net up to a radio show now... IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 18, 2008 02:49 AM
LOL.Lenin had great ideas on how to create revolutionaries in societies. Thats the second quote. I was trying to get together pieces for Obama's campaign Too bad they won't read me. And the first quote on him - I was trying to phrase a sentence "road to moralism...." based on his dangerous statement "road to communism....." .
I am not sure what Lenins thoughts are on abortion issues.
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 18, 2008 03:02 AM
Appears that I may have to shed light on why I insist that abortion should be legalized. Just as theory of relativity conforms that all observations in the universe are relativistic. I am saying that all moral truths are relativistic too and therefore situational. So for now let me just justify support of abortion rights as follows: They say we are spirtual beings having human experience. If that is true then if one mother is aborting, there is always another waiting mom. Perhaps she may be better for the child.
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 18, 2008 01:48 PM
AESCHYLUS Drop, drop– in our sleep, upon the heart sorrow falls, memory’s pain, and to us, though against our very will, even in our own despite, comes wisdom, by the awful grace of God. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 18, 2008 09:49 PM
Haha Dervish. You don't have to be drunk to read some of what's posted on this forum...but it helps. BTW, nice screen name. Everytime I see the word dervish I get the impression of unlimited energy and action. IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 18, 2008 11:05 PM
A tree grows as branches grows towards the sky and roots deeper in to the earth. Thus I say today the conservatives are the branches of this country and the liberals the roots. The conservatives are not cut off from the liberals. It is a delusion. This is my key in understanding American politics.
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