posted June 01, 2008 05:52 PM
I already mentioned about his opposition to railways and telegraphs in India. And how he would have ensured India remains poor.
As I mentioned before our body is also required to be sound and healthy for meditation. If your bodily needs are not met how can you focus on God? In the west because they are rich materially most are now talking of spiritual problems.
And in south africa he would even make his poor wife clean the latrine of guests whenever they would visit their home. Once he saw her weeping and he would remark "Service to God must be rendered with smile on your face"... (paraphrasing him). He must have been reading too much of the Ramayana and the Bible. Jeez, What a sadist? And he would often throw her out of the home. Wow what a non-violent person he is?
Also read and remember well how his son was against all his stupid ideals in the article below.
Whenever people would talk of violently throwing out the british government, he would go on a fast until death. Isn't that violence against his own body? Because Instead of aiming his guns on others he is aiming it on himself 
Don't get me wrong he did a lot for india like teaching them western civil manners and all that.... don't fall in to the trap of "idealism". Something I wish to share with liberals and librans at GU. I really wish he read Freud and Jung. It would have really helped him see his perspectivism.
I also hate him for dividing India in to India and Pakistan based on religion. Look at the leadership of Lincoln? Did he not raise an army and declare war against the southerners? That is true leadership.
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1. By nonviolence he managed everyone - the Jainas; the upper-class, Christian missionaries, etc .....
India has never fought. A small group could manage to keep this vast continent in slavery. The ownership changed from one group to another, but India remained in slavery. Indians are not people who will fight, and on the other hand, they don't have any weapons to fight with. The British empire of that day was the greatest power in the world. It was impossible to fight violently with the British empire: you don't have weapons, you don't have trained people to fight, you don't know anything about fighting. Nonviolence was a political policy. It served many purposes, and served well….
2. He had promised before independence that the moment India became free, all armies would be dissolved, all arms would be thrown into the ocean. After independence everything was forgotten. Neither, the armies were dissolved, nor the arms were thrown into the ocean; on the contrary, Gandhi himself blessed the first attack on Pakistan. All nonviolence and all that ******** talk that he was doing his whole life was forgotten.
3. Haridas, his eldest son, wanted to go to school and Gandhi will not allow because he thought that all education poisons people. So no education for children. He will teach them enough so they can read religious scriptures. But Haridas was insistent that he wants to learn everything the way other boys are learning. Gandhi threatened him that, "If you go to school, then never enter in my house again."
Do you think this is the attitude of a non-violent man? And that too against a small child, and whose demand is not in any way for any crime. He is not saying that he wants to go to a prostitute. He is simply asking to go to school to study just like everybody else. And his argument is perfect. He said, "You have been educated and you are not poisoned, so why you are so worried? I am your son. If you can be educated, if you can attain to the degree of bar at law, then why can't I? Why you are so suspicious?"
But Gandhi said, "I have given you the ultimatum. Either you live in this house with me, then no school, or you go to school, then this house is no more for you."
And I love that boy. He left the house—with grace. He touched his father's feet, asked for his blessings, which Mahatma Gandhi could not give. The boy left. He lived with one of his uncles, studied, many times wanted just to come and see his mother but was refused.
I cannot see non-violence and love. In these small acts you can find the real person, not in speeches, public performances.
4. Just to see how much Gandhi means that Hinduism and Mohammedanism are all one. He became Mohammedan. When Gandhi heard about it, he was so much shocked. He was so angry. His wife said, "But why you should be so angry? Every morning, every evening, you say both are the same. That's why he must be trying, that, "If both are same…. Hinduism I have lived for all these years, now let us see what is Mohammedanism."
And Gandhi was angry that, "This is not a matter to laugh. He is disinherited from my property. He is no more my son, and I don't want him to see again." Gandhi made it his will that "Haridas is not my son and I emphasize the fact that after my death he should not put the fire into my funeral."
What anger! What violence!
Haridas said, "I simply became a Mohammedan just to see how my father reacts. And he exactly reacted the way I thought, so all that unity of religions, Hindu and Mohammedan, Christian and Buddhism, is all nonsense. It is all politics. That's what I wanted to prove and I have proved it."
This is the so-called “Secularism” – doodh se dhula (bathed in milk!!!)
5. Haridas was coming from one train and Gandhi was passing by another train, so he came close to the compartment of Gandhi just to see his father, and the mother will be there. Gandhi, seeing him coming towards the compartment, closed all the windows and told his wife that, "If you open the window and talk with him, then my connections with you are finished. Then you can go with him."
Kasturba, Gandhi's wife, was crying, weeping, but could not open the window. Haridas was knocking on the window. Gandhi was standing there.
And this man is thought to be the greatest non-violent saint of the contemporary world. I don't agree.
6. Gandhi’s philosophy was absolutely violent but in a very subtle way. I threaten to kill you—this is violence. And I threaten to kill myself (fast unto death) if you don't accept me—is this logical? The standpoint that Gandhi was taking was absolutely illogical, but he supported it by threatening. It is blackmail to say, "I will kill myself." It makes no difference whether I threaten to kill you or to kill myself to make you accept my view. In either case, I am using pressure and violence.
7. In Mahatma Gandhi's ashram, you could not use a mosquito net!!!
Any intelligent person can understand that a mosquito net is not a luxury, it is not something unspiritual. The substitute was kerosene oil. So either you could not sleep because of the mosquitoes or because of the kerosene oil.
Why don't all the people proposing Gandhigiri do not even visit the ashram now? Does anyone from 10 Janpath even visit?
8. Gandhi started traveling in third class and because Gandhi was traveling in the third class, the whole compartment was booked for him. In a sixty-foot compartment—where at least eighty to ninety persons would have traveled—he alone is traveling. And his biographers will write, "He was so kind to the poor."
9. He used to drink goat's milk because that is the cheapest, and the poorest of people can afford it. Naturally, everybody who is conditioned with the idea immediately appreciates what a great man he is. I found that his goat was being bathed every day with Lux toilet soap. The food of the goat cost in those days, ten rupees—ten rupees was the salary of a school teacher for one month. But nobody will look into these matters.
10. Sarojini Naidu—joked once “To keep Mahatma Gandhi poor, we have to destroy treasures. His poverty is very costly.” But it worked. As a politician he became the greatest politician, because the poor people thought "This is the man who is our real representative, because he lives like a poor man in a cottage, he drinks goats' milk, he travels in third class." But they don't know the background—that to maintain his poverty was very costly….
11. The public believes in Mahatma Gandhi. so utter nonsense has to be supported because Gandhi was anti-technological. Now this country will remain poor if this country remains anti-technological; this country will never be in a state of wellbeing. And there is no need for technology always to be anti-ecology; there is no need. A technology can be developed which can be in tune with ecology A technology can be developed which can help people and will not destroy nature—but Gandhi was against technology.
He was against the railway, he was against the post office, he was against electricity, he was against machines of all kinds. They know this is stupid, But they go on saying so, and they go on paying homage to Mahatma Gandhi because they have to get the votes from the people. And the people worship the Mahatma because the Mahatma fits with their ideas of how a mahatma should be.
12. The Gandhians now stay in palaces. By following Gandhism sincerely can you earn crores, which is more than what is available thru your salary!!!!. All these people have been exploiting the poor country. They all have bank balances in foreign countries, in Switzerland, in America. They all have connections outside India, from where they get bribes and money and everything, for giving secrets. They are all connected to one country or other; they are agents. They have one face before the masses, the poor masses, and their reality is something totally different. But there also they apply novel techniques. What is the sense in spreading mats and wearing loin clothes in a palace which is tended by about a thousand servants? These are the symptoms of madness, result of our extremist philosophy. Stay in a hut if you like, or in a palace if you like, but what is the consolation behind faking the look of a hut in a palace? The two things do not harmonise. And that is because of the internal strife and it results in hypocrisy.
13. I think that Gandhism should die if India has to live. If Gandhism continues then India will have to die. And if I have to choose between the two I would choose that India live—Gandhi is already dead. It does not matter if Gandhism also dies. Who cares?"
This brand of MG has been a golden goose for 4 generations and keeping it alive is the only the first family is going to survive. and that is being done beautifully. besides this they have no other way.
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