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ListensToTrees
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posted May 13, 2008 06:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Codex Alimentarius is a threat to the freedom of people to choose natural healing and alternative medicine and nutrition. Ratified by the World Health Organization, and going into Law in the United States in 2009, the threat to health freedom has never been greater. This is the first part of a series of talks by Dr. Rima Laibow MD, available on DVD from the Natural Solutions Foundation, an non-profit organization dedicated to educating people about how to stop Codex Alimentarius from taking away our right to freely choose nutritional health.

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ListensToTrees
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posted May 13, 2008 06:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Add your name to the Citizen's Petition to Protect America's Health Freedom from CODEX.

Become a petitioner of the Natural Solutions Citizen's Petition to Protect America's Health Freedom from CODEX and add your voice to the growing chorus of Americans telling the U.S. Governement that it must follow its own laws and keep America CODEX-free!

It's easy, simple and puts you back in the driver's seat by exercising your constitutional rights.
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action/step3/petition-letter.shtml

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ghanima81
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posted May 13, 2008 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SIGN IT!!!!!

If you are a true American, and believe in your freedoms, please watch this video and look into this...

Thank you, LTT...

Ghani

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted May 14, 2008 04:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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K guys, no disrespect but...
(Please research this subject a bit further and you'll discover you've been bamboozled a bit this has been going round on the internet since at least 2006)

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Codex and Health Freedom –
Be Wary of the ‘Instant Experts’

July 2006 – There is currently a significant amount of inaccurate and misleading information circulating on the internet about Codex and other related health freedom issues, much of which would appear to have originated on the website of the so-called Natural Solutions Foundation. Whilst the Natural Solutions Foundation's Medical Director, Rima Laibow, claims to have carefully studied more than 16,000 pages of Codex documentation, the content of her articles and the nature of her proposed strategies strongly suggests otherwise. The following article may therefore help you to sort the facts from the fiction.
Click Here

Example:

FICTION: Codex will go into global effect on December 31, 2009.

FACT: The Natural Solutions Foundation do not seem to be aware that ‘Codex’ already exists it currently consists of around 300 official food standards, of which have been in ‘global effect’ since as long ago as 1966!

If however the Natural Solutions Foundation is referring specifically to the Codex Guidelines for Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements then it is in fact confusing these with the European Union's Food Supplements Directive.

There are 1000's of other websites out there showing the information presented in the original post to be a "internet scam" of sorts, some even attribute this to "Pharma" -anyways, if another resonates better... simply do a google search.

If you wish to verify that the "Codex Alimentarius" already exists simply go directly to their official site at http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp
(They were "created" in 1963)

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted May 14, 2008 05:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The video being shared here is from a conference done in 2005...

The reason perhaps they would share this mis-information is to help sell these very products at their website as shown in these screen shots:


Note: I am directly effected by things such as this due to my profession, so it is why I am inclined to keep educated on topics such as these.

Much Love

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ListensToTrees
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posted May 14, 2008 06:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, yfis.

The link to the Codex Alimentarus website was on the site I originally found the video on. (Redice Creations). So it would appear that no-one was trying to "pull one over" on anyone in this case.

She does mention that Codex has been around for that long, it was the specific points of the legislation taking global effect that she wanted to highlight.

I will need to look into this in detail, when I get the time, writing down all the claims made on both sides, to see which one seems true and which one seems to be lying.

The only doubt I have at the moment, that the article you found might not be true, yfis, is that if this lady is telling the truth, it would make sense that "dark forces" would do their best to nullify or ridicule her claims by spreading information against it.

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ListensToTrees
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posted May 14, 2008 06:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How Did Codex Get Started?

Modern-day Codex Alimentarius was born when the United Nations established the Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC) as a Trade Commission in 1963. Its stated mission was to ensure clean and abundant food for the planet, and remove international trade barriers for that food.

Some people believe Codex was started with good intentions.

Good Intentions Pave the Road to…

Even though good intentions might have been the initial motivation behind the Codex Alimentarius of 1963, the Codex Alimentarius of 2005 has nothing to do with good intentions.

The Codex Alimentarius of 2005 has been taken over by massive multi-national corporations in the pharmaceutical, pesticide, chemical, bio-technology, and industrial agriculture industries. These are the largest industries on Earth and their products are the most toxic. They are also the most heavily-subsidized on Earth, and have the biggest lobbyists in the political world.

Why has Codex Alimentarius been taken over by these corporations? The answer is simple: short-sighted and utterly selfish economic ambitions.

Codex Eliminates Competition to Pharmaceutical Drugs

Natural health products such as vitamins, minerals, and amino acids are a direct threat to the profits of pharmaceutical companies.

The reason is simple:

In general, the more natural health products people use for solving their health problems, the less pharmaceutical drugs they use. This is because natural health products are aimed to treat disease at the root, and don’t really have the negative side-effects of drugs. So they are more pleasant to use. Drugs, on the other hand, are designed to suppress symptoms, not cure disease. There is a difference between disease and the symptoms of disease. Drugs also always come with side-effects. These side-effects can often be horrible, often worse than the symptoms they are intended to suppress.

Thus, the more natural health products people buy, the less drugs they buy.



http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=162

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ghanima81
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posted May 14, 2008 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah... if you actually watch the video, she says all of that.

Believe what you want to... there is evil anywhere there is money to be made.

It just comes down to what is fundamentally important to you.

I personally think our track record as a country speaks for itself. There is nothing sacred when it comes to capitalism... even our health.

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted May 14, 2008 10:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The article you sited above is again by the very same website that produced and promotes the original video and petition information you came here with.... *sigh

You see these three companies (perhaps more) are one in the same as the screen shots shown above.

The way I understand it, Codex Alimentarius is a set of international food standards devised by the Codex Commission, a body within the United Nations jointly sponsored by the FAO and WHO. The purpose of the standards is to harmonize global trade in food products and agricultural commodities, protect the health of consumers, and promote fair trade practices in foods. A subset of the commission's work involved establishing international food labeling standards.

It is because of these guys efforts that we even have food labels today that disclose to us what's "actually" in our food...

Before these guys came along, people were continuously fighting BIG corporations over cancer causing substances and allergens as simple as "peanuts"...

Now we have ample warning and can avoid such products should we choose to do so.

Granted they do not have the manpower or authority to catch every single flippin' new product on the market "before" people have complaints. But all in all, without these guys we'd be screwed.

People would be putting poisons in foods and distributing them to countries they wished to eliminate. Heck even neighborhoods.

I am a true American, and I do absolutely believe in personal freedom. I too dislike any sort of "control" when it comes to my personal freedoms and health. I do not however see these guys as "control" rather I see them as "protecting" my right to safe and healthy products worth putting into my system in order to live, breath, and enjoy my freedoms.

Simplistic Example:
Say I am severely allergic to peanuts / MSG (monosodium glutamate) or the like... I can now go to any grocery store worldwide and shop in confidence knowing that the products I purchase will be clearly labeled. I won't have the surprise of my life during dinner hour being rushed to the hospital hooked up to a respirator in the back of an ambulance in hopes I will live through the ordeal "this time".

My thoughts...

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ListensToTrees
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posted May 14, 2008 11:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know, yfis, I just wanted to point out that they stated themselves that the organization had been in place since 1963......

In Health Food shops in the UK people have been signing petitions, as the governments want to bring in legislations that will severely limit our access to vitamin supplements.
We don't need "Big Brother" telling us what to do, especially one which puts economics over spiritual morality. One only has to look into (properly- not just the surface of) the way animals are abused in the name of purely economic gain, by the Pharmaceutical industry. Nothing seems to be sacred to these people.
Where does it stop?
There are lots of things going on behind the scenes they try to hide, but its there for those who wish to find out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS3mhjt7TrY

Of course, all said and done, clever ways to cover up the truth are used.......


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yourfriendinspirit
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posted May 14, 2008 12:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I hear you Emily as you say "the governments" the program here in the U.S. is independent of the government and what this websites information shares is simply not reality, at least for the U.S....

My heart genuinely goes out to you, me, really ALL of us, that may become subjected to control in this manner.

It is sickening to say the least.
These herbs and their uses are a very real part of our heritage and culture and to regulate "natural" things seems insane.

I do care, I care alot. I just prefer to be educated on the facts prior to jumping on the band wagon.

There's no doubt in my mind that the pharmaceutical companies have their nasty little hands in everywhere they can...
This includes ALL companies and organizations that can somehow help their aim of profits. This place is NOT exclusive nor is it the path. It is in itself fairly regulated. It will be our responsibility to keep a watchful eye.

I appreciate your original post actually. This helps bring these atrocities to light. This also brings awareness to others whom may have no clue these systems, organizations, and programs even exist.

Again, with respect and much Love

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AQUADean
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posted May 14, 2008 01:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx for sharing Emily.
Some of the things done in the name of profit truly are shocking!!!
It makes sense that limiting peoples access to essential nutrients will further increase profits in medicines/pharmaceuticals due to the decrease in peoples health.
I truly believe it's possible to make profit whilst at the same time being morally responsible,it's greed that wants to increase these margins through unscrupulous means.As the divide between rich and poor continues to escalate,things will only get worse.This really angers me,as every being on this Earth should be entitled to the most important thing....good health.
Also,why are supplements so expensive?

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Azalaksh
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posted May 14, 2008 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can anything take "global effect" when there is no "global" enforcement??
Maybe I didn't read this carefully enough.....

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AQUADean
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posted May 14, 2008 02:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the global enforcement comes in an indirect way eg: pressure to be 'codex certified'
As was mentioned in that vid when a 'trade dispute' happens if only one side is codex certified then that side wins by default irrespective of the cases merit.

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted May 14, 2008 02:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Being that you added another video to the post I will now respond to this as well...
I have been aware of that video for several years, sick huh? ewww...

But, you actually just further validated my point. Why was Bayer not allowed to distribute "tainted" or poisoned medication here in America?

Because we have programs designed to catch these things for our "PROTECTION", these very same programs now touted as being out to get us "control" us, if you will..
Do you see?

I am by no means saying that these programs are perfect, but again how many lives here were saved because of such a program, rules, guidelines, and regulations...

It's really too bad that other countries don't enforce and follow stricter guidelines while purchasing or producing over the counter products such as this.

Remember the whole tainted toothpaste thing from China? Another prime example.

Somebody, somewhere must take responsibility for regulating what's shipped worldwide and placed on the grocery store shelves...

I don't have the skills, do you?

This Bayer Aspirin thing is so not cool.
How many more "events" will need to transpire before we realize that rules and guidelines (while sometimes constraining) are necessary for our general well being, health, and life.

Again, because I want safe and healthy products worth putting into my system in order to live, breath, and enjoy my freedoms.

~Just me

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