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jwhop
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posted August 13, 2008 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
August 13, 2008
Nemesis stalks the Democrats
By James Lewis

The Three Christs of Ypsilanti were three paranoid hospital patients in the early Sixties, each of them completely convinced he was the true incarnation of Jesus Christ. The psychologist Milton Rokeach put them all together in group therapy, thinking that they would argue each other out of their messianic beliefs. The good news is that they didn't try to kill each other. The bad news is that they didn't change their messianic delusions one little bit.

It reminds me of the Democrats. I mean, what happens when they put Algore, Obama and Jimmy Carter together in the same padded room? Do they all come down with Prophet Envy? Do they have hysterical cat fights, and need emergency resuscitation if they faint from the vapors? Does Michelle call in big muscle from Louis Farrakhan to keep the peace?

Just look at the liberal list of Planetary Saviors:

Jimmy Carter, now living as an international nag, to loud cheers from the sneering snobs of Europe and the UN, Iran and the Arabian deserts;

Al Gore, driven mad by his Florida loss to George W. Bush, who got so snippified that he sued and sued until the US Supremes slapped him down, then carried his rage around the world until he became the superfatted incarnation of international eco-fury;

John Kerry, who accused his Vietnam buddies of rape and murder, and then went around for forty years with his Swiftboat Navy hat folded in his briefcase;

The Clintons with their folie a deux, determined to get four presidential terms, two for him and two for her;

and finally we have today's popular extravaganza, Senator Barack Obama and his Flying Circus. There was Senator O, taking his self-congratulatory victory lap three months before the US election, in front of 200,000 Citizens of the World in Berlin -- while disdaining the chance to face his Republican opponent in town hall meetings in front of American voters.

What do all those Democrats have in common? They're infected with Savioritis Pestis, a generally harmless disorder which explodes into a global pandemic when it is caught by ambitious pols. For some reasons Republicans never catch this disease, possibly because they would be laughed out of town before the sun goes down. But when Nancy Pelosi was asked the other week why she shut down any House debate on oil drilling, her Frisco airhead answer just came out, "I'm just trying to Save the Planet." Don't bother me with grubby facts, I'm busy being Jesus. And nobody in the mainstream media even snickered.

Al Gore is now hailed around the world for the global warming fraud, working hard to forge a really big ball and chain to drag down the American economy. Jimmy Carter is currying favor with terrorists and their thug sponsors, and telling us just to get over 9/11, for goodness' sake; it's not like it was Pearl Harbor or anything. John Kerry has never gotten over his personal JFK Complex, though Kennedy was a real war hero, while Kerry is a proven fraud.

And then there is Senator O and his Lady Michelle, who have so little control over their blown-up egos that they have already lost the polling bump that comes with a solid media slobber from the Left.

Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad, said the sly old Greeks. The madness they were thinking of was hubris, of course, "overweening pride," which was destined to bring forth the divine revenge of Nemesis. The Greeks believed in hubris and Nemesis because they saw a lot of egomania in their world.

American politicians are trying to catch up with the ancients. The Democrats are infested with hubris like lice on a mangy dog. It's not just one swelled-head politician; it's a whole parade of them.

American voters have quietly noticed all that. That's why John Kerry and Al Gore lost. It's why Hillary and Bill were thrown over by the Left as soon as a fresh new savior showed up. It's also why Dukakis, Mondale and McGovern crashed and burned, one after the other. Most Americans would rather keep their Savior for religious worship, thank you.

Egomania has always triggered a backlash from Americans. It makes us different from Europe. George Washington was honored for retiring to his farm after two terms, not for grabbing more and more tyrannical power like Napoleon. Thomas Jefferson made a point of humbly walking on foot to his inauguration; he knew his fellow countrymen. Abe Lincoln told corny jokes and started the whole born-in-a-log-cabin tradition. Harry Truman started as a small-town haberdasher, and was happy to leave Washington, D.C. and go back to Independence when he was done.

Reagan was a big Hollywood celebrity, but blessed with humility -- not something we get a chance to see much of these days. Our movie actors have caught the messiah bug just like the leftie pols. It's a cheap ego trip, and it takes zero talent.

For two centuries American politicians were expected to eat humble pie to get their votes. An overblown ego was the road to political death. While Europe had its Napoleon invading every country from Spain to Russia, Otto Bismarck starting the Franco-Prussian war of revenge, Queen Victoria conquering the oceans as the Empress of India, the Habsburg Kaisers and the Czars of Muscovy, tens of thousands of preening, goose-stepping soldiers, the King of Belgium and the Grand Duke of Luxembourg, and the whole shebang coming to a disastrous climax with Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin.

Meanwhile, American presidents desperately tried for the common touch. Yes, we had big egos in Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and FDR. But Teddy got his boots dirty hunting bear in the West. FDR had his fireside chats, and the voters revolted against his effort to pack the Supreme Court. FDR's four terms scandalized even Democrats, and led to the 22nd Amendment. Woodrow Wilson just burned out trying to Save the Planet.

Not any more.

The rising tide of leftist egomania has burst its banks at last and is now rising all around us. Senator O and his lady are now the biggest snooties in American politics. It's possible that the American people have changed, and that we have just learned to bow down to our political class like the Europeans. Certainly liberals love to smooch the clay feet of their idols -- Al Gore, Jimmy, and now Senator O. Democrat politicians keep morphing into pop idols, flaunting their gauche caviar snobbery like Hollywood stars visiting Paris.

American conservatives still hang on to rugged individualism. George W. Bush takes pride in cutting dry brush on his dusty Texas ranch, dragging along the complaining Washington press corps to Crawford. Bob Dole never said a word about his lifelong injuries from the Italian campaign in World War II. John McCain comes from a family of Navy admirals, but he's had the shine rubbed off by years of flying carrier aircraft, followed by the Hanoi Hilton, chronic injuries and a quarter century in Washington politics.

Individualism puts conservatives at a huge disadvantage, as the Left swarms through the big institutions they love so dearly: The education bureaucracy, the colleges, all the layers of government, institutionalized science, the liberal media. The only thing that saves conservative politicians is the American people. If they happen to feel like it.

Talk radio, computers and the web have empowered independent-minded individuals -- for now. Rush Limbaugh is the quintessential rugged individual; he runs a small-business radio show, not a messianic circus. It was independent bloggers who nailed Dan Rather and CBS News, and who just unmasked Senator O's dubious Hawaii birth certificate. John Edwards is out of politics because he was exposed by a tabloid, a story that was sneered at by our corrupt and incompetent professional media, but amplified beyond supermarket checkout stands by the blogosphere. John Kerry was "Swiftboated" in liberal martyrology, though a proven military fraud, and Al Gore couldn't steal Florida because the alternative media were watching.

Even Bill Clinton was taken down by the alternative media, known to liberals as the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy. But it's all just the inevitable rise of Nemesis, as American voters rediscover their power to bring our would-be-royalty down to earth.
Still -- the Obamas are ridin' high today. If they falter, the Hillary coronation will start again. It doesn't matter who it is; on the Left, the lust for frail human idols to worship just keeps going.

It is the perhaps the most fundamental difference between leftists and adults. Long may it live.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/nemesis_stalks_the_democrats.html

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venusdeindia
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posted August 14, 2008 02:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
much too relevant to some of our indian ones too

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posted August 14, 2008 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and here's me thinking that this thread was jwhop's 'Know Two Are Alike' introductory thread that had somehow been posted in Global Unity by mistake.

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posted August 14, 2008 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That does not compute wheels, it composts.

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venusdeindia
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posted August 15, 2008 04:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have i been missing the fun in here or what ?

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posted August 15, 2008 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That article's hilarious. Reagan was a celebrity. Bush's superior name got him the nomination in 2000 (and his "rugged individualism" allowed others [Cheney and Rove] to orchestrate all the details of his campaigns [I can't think of a single politician that comes off less individualistic]). Schwartzenegger's celebrity got him into office.

I'll be damned if John McCain doesn't consider himself the savior of the GOP (as he has since 2000). Of course he goes about it the wrong way, being a "maverick" moderate out for change, rather than the ultra-religious, ultra-Conservative that Republicans like. Mr. Straight Talk Express has long been a media darling.

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posted August 15, 2008 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That article's hilarious. Reagan was a celebrity. Bush's superior name got him the nomination in 2000 (and his "rugged individualism" allowed others [Cheney and Rove] to orchestrate all the details of his campaigns [I can't think of a single politician that comes off less individualistic]). Schwartzenegger's celebrity got him into office.
I'll be damned if John McCain doesn't consider himself the savior of the GOP (as he has since 2000). Of course he goes about it the wrong way, being a "maverick" moderate out for change, rather than the ultra-religious, ultra-Conservative that Republicans like. Mr. Straight Talk Express has long been a media darling.acoustic

Let's recap acoustic. Ronald Reagan had 12 years successful experience as Governor of a state that if it were a country would have the 5th largest economy in the world...before he ran for President.

O'Bomber's only experience is as a paid street protester protesting government followed by a slot in the IL state Senate where he managed to vote present about 150 times and get himself involved with the most corrupt city and state governments in America. Not to mention that he ran interference for Rezko on sham public works projects and defended Rezko and other sleaze bags against citizen complaints when the slum lords failed to turn on the heat in their buildings in the winter...in Chicago no less.

As for Bush, he despises the elitists in the Washington party circuit and avoids them whenever possible. Bush also had 12 solid and successful years as Governor of Texas before he ran for President. Further, Cheney orchestrated nothing. Rove was the Bush campaign adviser and the best in the land. As for who's in charge in the White House, perhaps you should read Bob Woodward's book before you suggest Bush isn't. O'Bomber can't tie his own shoes without assistance. Every time he opens his mouth with an unscripted comment, he sticks his foot in it.

Schwartzenegger is a RINO..Republican In Name Only married to a Kennedy but a definite upgrade over democrat Gray Davis.

I don't know that McCain considers himself the savior of the GOP but conservatives have cold chills over some of the bills McCain has worked on and over some of the things he continues to say.

That article is right on target so I'm not surprised by your reaction.

Where have you been VDI? BTW, I agree with what you said on Lindaland Central and would have gone much further than you did...but I didn't think Randall would appreciate a war there.

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posted August 16, 2008 05:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Where have you been VDI? BTW, I agree with what you said on Lindaland Central and would have gone much further than you did...but I didn't think Randall would appreciate a war there

i missed you . really...someone told me there were more conservatives on thesite ...

as for war...on LLC
really...its that touchy ???
after so many years of back and forth i though both sides could have had enough time for cross perspectives..whatever . no offence but the same arguments that were probably screeched in the 60 's was all i got.and i really thought there was a good discussion at hands given this case invovlved so many human interest points.
sucker, i am.

but that whole politicin celeb thing.... we see a HELL LOT of it, given our penchant for Gods and goddesses if u know what i mean. i mean we have like 42 milion gods in hunduism alone. basically any politician worth his salt starts mass branding himself as One. get used to it i say...priceless entertainment.

one such case was the founder of pakistan..Jinnah. he spoke no arabic, wore Saks fifth suits , drank whisky every day in violation of Koran .yet somehow convinced the muslims in the west of India that he mohammeds next avatar ..commiting his life to getting them their own land..whatever biggest bloodbath in history, 5 million slaughtered, and pakistan remains one of the poorest countries.

as for Jinnah,he died a Demi-Messiah,his political ambition of being a country's president wouldnt ever have been possible in a secular country like India.thats why he had to brand himself as a muslimmanna when he didnt know how to read a prayer from the koran.got himself his own country to rule for 5 years...and then its time to burn...


better yet, the pakis still think he was their saviour.

dangerous stuff...this messiah complex.

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posted August 17, 2008 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ronald Reagan had 12 years successful experience as Governor

After an acting career.

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Further, Cheney orchestrated nothing.

Cheney was coordinating the Veep search when he was offered the job, and has had a much more pronounced role in the administration than is normally given to a Vice-President.

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Bush also had 12 solid and successful years as Governor of Texas

It was easier for Republicans to imagine a George Bush in office than a John McCain as there had already been a George Bush as President. Going against a Vice Presidential incumbent, Republicans thought the Bush brand was better than the lesser known McCain. His name got him the nomination. He had more verbal gaffes than anyone can shake a stick at, and still got the nod versus a Virgo who could speak clearly and intelligibly.

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As for Bush, he despises the elitists in the Washington party circuit and avoids them whenever possible.

Does he avoid the parties because he's a recovering alcoholic, or does he avoid the elitists because he can't speak like a learned man?

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jwhop
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posted August 19, 2008 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, too bad Cheney isn't running for President. He made Edwards look like a little boy out of his element in a room of adults..in the VP debate.

Of course Bush considers what Cheney has to say. Cheney is vastly experienced...in business, in domestic policy, in foreign policy and in government.

Compared to Cheney O'Bomber looks like a no talent beginner too.

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It was easier for Republicans to imagine a George Bush in office than a John McCain as there had already been a George Bush as President. Going against a Vice Presidential incumbent, Republicans thought the Bush brand was better than the lesser known McCain. His name got him the nomination. He had more verbal gaffes than anyone can shake a stick at, and still got the nod versus a Virgo who could speak clearly and intelligibly....acoustic

You forget acoustic that Bush the Elder got dumped by Republicans for breaking his promise...."Read my lips, no new taxes". Having George HW Bush for father didn't do much if anything for George W. Neither does W consult with his father on domestic and foreign policy. In fact, advisers from the George HW Bush era attempted to insert themselves into the foreign policy of the US and W rebuffed them...soundly.

As for speaking clearly and intelligibly, Bush has it all over O'Bomber who has to read everything off a teleprompter or show just how intellectually vacant he really is.

Here's O'Bomber stuttering, stammering and uhhhh, uhhhh, uhhhing through a 40 minute press conference in Jordan. Call O'Bomber the King of Uhhhh...and Duh.

"Believe it or not - this is real - a full 7 1/2 minutes of gibberish (he didn't have a teleprompter)."
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/07/obamas_porky_pi.php


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