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jwhop
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posted September 08, 2008 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, well, well; THE ONE O'Bomber and the lapdog O'Bomber cheering section...otherwise known as the American press are attempting to depict O'Bomber's comment..."My Muslim Faith" as a slip of the tongue.

Gee, I can't remember ever personally having such a slip; nor can I recall any so called Christian having such a "slip of the tongue.

Say, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't O'Bomber billed as the most articulate, most intelligent candidate in the history of the Republic?

Obama's verbal slip fuels his critics
Christina Bellantoni
Sunday, September 7, 2008

ST. LOUIS, Mo. - Sen. Barack Obama's foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue, when the Democratic presidential nominee was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, "my Muslim faith."

The three words -- immediately corrected -- were during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim.

But illustrating the difficulty of preventing false rumors about his faith from spreading, anti-Obama groups within one hour of the interview had sliced it out of context and were sending it around via email. They also were blogging about it.

Mr. Obama, who is a Christian and often proudly speaks about how his faith has influenced his public service, said he finds it "deeply offensive" that there are efforts "coming out of the Republican camp to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith."

The exchange came after Mr. Obama said that Republicans are attempting to scare voters by suggesting he is not Christian, which McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said was "cynical."

Asked about it on ABC, Mr. Obama said, "These guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand."

"The McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections," said Mr. Stephanopoulos, who repeatedly interrupted Mr. Obama during the interview.

"I don't think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let's say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks," Mr Obama responded, and Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted: "But John McCain said that's wrong."

Mr. Obama noted that when Republican vice presidential nominee Gov. Sarah Palin "was forced" to talk about her pregnant 17-year-old daughter, he issued a forceful statement to reporters that the line of inquiry was "off limits." But he said the McCain campaign tried to tie him to "liberal blogs that support Obama" and are "attacking Governor Palin."

"Let's not play games," he said. "What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you're absolutely right that that has not come."

Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted with, "Christian faith."

"My Christian faith," Mr. Obama said quickly. "Well, what I'm saying is that he hasn't suggested that I'm a Muslim. And I think that his campaign's upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith -- something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time."

Asked to comment on the accidental misstatement illustrating the difficulty of the issue, Obama spokesman Bill Burton offered this comment: "I'm not surprised that the only outlet doing this story is The Washington Times."
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/

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AcousticGod
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posted September 08, 2008 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone thinking he was admitting to being Muslim is out of their mind. He was speaking of his supposed Muslim faith that's been assigned to him by Republicans.

It wasn't a slip. In the context of what he was saying it made sense. He simply didn't qualify it as "supposed," which he really didn't need to though Stephanopoulos seemed to think he should.

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But illustrating the difficulty of preventing false rumors about his faith from spreading, anti-Obama groups within one hour of the interview had sliced it out of context and were sending it around via email. They also were blogging about it.

Out of context indeed.

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"Let's not play games," he said. "What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you're absolutely right that that has not come."

Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted with, "Christian faith."

"My Christian faith," Mr. Obama said quickly. "Well, what I'm saying is that he hasn't suggested that I'm a Muslim. And I think that his campaign's upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith -- something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time."


It's right there in the article. It was on Yahoo video yesterday. It may still be available today.

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jwhop
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posted September 08, 2008 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Words, Just Words?

Well, we expect better than that from the most articulate, most intelligent Messiah candidate who ever came to earth wrapped in moonbeams, wearing a snow white toga and sandals. How about that; we actually expect them to know what they're saying.

"Cuba, Venezuela and Iran are tiny nations, no danger to the United States...says THE ONE, O'Bomber.

Shortly thereafter....Iran is "a grave threat". Words, Just Words?

"Jerusalem must remain an undivided city..says THE ONE, O'Bomber.

Next day, "the status of Jerusalem must be worked out by negotiations between Israel and Palestinians. Words, Just Words?

"I will renegotiate the NAFTA treaty with Mexico and Canada"...says THE ONE, O'Bomber.

A few days later, an O'Bomber aide is on a plane to Canada to tell them O'Bomber doesn't really mean it, it's just a line to lure in the suckers. Words, Just Words?

So, in the latest slip of the tongue..."My Muslim Faith" moment, here's O'Bomber attempting to smear John McCain by suggesting the reaction to his "slip of the tongue" is coming from the McCain campaign.

When Stephanopoulos reminded O'Bomber that McCain has denounced questioning anyone's faith...then and only then did THE ONE, O'Bomber back off.

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posted September 08, 2008 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So, in the latest slip of the tongue..."My Muslim Faith" moment, here's O'Bomber attempting to smear John McCain by suggesting the reaction to his "slip of the tongue" is coming from the McCain campaign.

When Stephanopoulos reminded O'Bomber that McCain has denounced questioning anyone's faith...then and only then did THE ONE, O'Bomber back off.


I think you've recounted that wrong. Obama did suggest that the Muslim suggestion was rooted in the McCain campaign (through the media that is pro-McCain/pro-Republican), and then backed off of that when Stephanopoulos challenged him. The so-called slip happened at the end of that conversation. I don't believe he's tributed to his supposed slip to anyone.

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jwhop
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posted September 08, 2008 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never said O'Bomber attributed his "My Muslim faith" moment to the McCain campaign.

Perhaps you didn't read what I said.

I said O'Bomber attributed what he called a smear TO the McCain campaign.

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posted September 08, 2008 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If that was all you were saying, then I agree.

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here's O'Bomber attempting to smear John McCain by suggesting the reaction to his "slip of the tongue" is coming from the McCain campaign.

This was the confusing part, because it seems to suggest that during Obama's supposed slip he was tributing it to McCain's camp. It would have read better like this: here's O'bomber attempting to smear John McCain by suggesting that the McCain camp is putting forth the idea that Obama's Muslim.

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posted September 08, 2008 04:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He spent several years growing up in Indonesia and his stepfather was a practicing Muslim. Almost certainly he has an instinctive tolerance for Islam. At worst, he's a Muslim who, given the general mistrust verging on paranoia most Americans feel about Islam, would prefer to keep it to himself. Sad that he would feel the need to lie about it. 50 years ago a good many of us were fidgety with a Catholic in the White House. So let's face it, he'd lose the Presidency on the Muslim issue alone.

So what worries you, Jwhop? That he's a Muslim or that he's afraid to tell anyone?

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jwhop
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posted September 08, 2008 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"here's O'Bomber attempting to smear John McCain by suggesting the "reaction" to his "slip of the tongue" is coming from the McCain campaign."

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jwhop
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posted September 08, 2008 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So what worries you, Jwhop? That he's a Muslim or that he's afraid to tell anyone?"

O'Bomber sat in a so called "christian church" for 20 years and claims to be a christian. If O'Bomber is in fact a Muslim, being a liar is the least of the problem. Islam permits the lying to non Muslims to further the cause of Islam.

But O'Bomber isn't going to be President now or in the future. His associations are most troubling. Most of his life, O'Bomber has gravitated towards and associated with the most radical socialist/Marxist haters in the United States and he still does. That's not mentioning his association and work on behalf of Tony Rezko. The press has studiously ignored any issue which would tend to disqualify O'Bomber from the office he seeks and there's plenty of issues with O'Bomber which would do just that; disqualify him in the eyes of voters. Fortunately, the so called main stream media are no longer the gatekeepers of the news and news is filtering out in spite of their spiking the news about O'Bomber.

Of course America would not elect a Muslim when we're in the midst of a war against terrorists and terrorist states who are or say they are Muslims.


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AcousticGod
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posted September 08, 2008 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "slip of the tongue" just happened, and I don't think Obama has commented on it, so for me, the sentence still doesn't make sense.

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jwhop
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posted September 08, 2008 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK acoutic, it makes enough sense to me for both of us.

The O'Bomber campaign has attempted to say the reaction to O'Bombers "My Muslim Faith" moment came from the McCain campaign.

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AcousticGod
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posted September 08, 2008 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where? When? Because you made this statement, I checked it out, and I don't find any report of Obama reacting to people talking/writing about the "...my Muslim faith..." moment.

I think what's likely is that you haven't seen the interview clip, and are therefore misunderstanding the story you posted.

During the interview Obama did assert that the suggestion that he's secretly a Muslim was coming out of the McCain camp. Stephanopoulos challenged him on that, and Obama said, "What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you're absolutely right that that has not come..."

I don't see anyone reporting Obama's reaction to anything that's happened after that interview [in relation to that interview]. Since Obama hasn't reacted to the [Conservative] reaction, he can't be saying that the reaction is based in McCain's camp. The only reaction from Obama's camp to this non-story has been, "I'm not surprised that the only outlet doing this story is The Washington Times."

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jwhop
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posted September 09, 2008 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that in this case you're right acoustic.

The "reaction" to O'Bomber's slip of the tongue.."My Muslim Faith" couldn't have come prior to..before he made the comment.

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