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Topic: Palin: So, What Does A Vice President Do, Anyway?
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Heart--Shaped Cross Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 14, 2008 07:53 AM
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 14, 2008 08:21 AM
So what? Obama does not know what a governor does or what a CEO and CFO in a company does.She asks will her great qualities qualify her? Yeah certainly Sarah. A VP is leader of Senators. Obama did not have any lead experience. Nada. This is getting so boring at GU of late. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted September 14, 2008 09:59 PM
Obama has at least some idea of what the job he is applying for consists.And even if he didnt, he would have the presence of mind not to undermine voter confidence in his ability by admitting ignorance.
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BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 14, 2008 10:11 PM
The reason it's getting boring Mannu is because you and the rest of your redneck brethren don't get it.... She talks about accomplishing things for the rest of the US?
She was a friggin secessionist! She doesnt' give a crap about the US, she's an idiot being used as a pawn to pull in the redneck votes She dones't even know what the VP does...you'd think they'd coach her on it so she would know what she's talking about.
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 14, 2008 11:10 PM
You're a liar Blue...and you're flat out lying about Palin being a secessionist.The video clip was from a period when Palin was not considering that she would be a national candidate for office. Palin contrasted her job as Governor...as a hands on Chief Executive of a state to the job of VP..whose only Constitutional duties are President of the Senate who casts tie breaking votes and is second in the line of succession for the Presidency. IP: Logged |
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posted September 14, 2008 11:33 PM
hmmm, democrats, turning to personal insults, what a surprise!All my love, with all my heart To ALL. ... IP: Logged |
ghanima81 Moderator Posts: 518 From: Maine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 15, 2008 01:56 PM
Just playing fair, lotus... don't try to pull that card... IP: Logged |
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posted September 15, 2008 02:13 PM
I haven't pulled a card, but what a great idea, let's ask for advice for each party...Democrat, I got the 3 of Wands, a life altering decision, after much contemplation on the past, one must make very important decisions, on major life issues. Republican, I got The Fool, hold your nose and jump, go for it, a time to follow one's heart, to take a chance, and have faith. interesting! All my love, with all my heart To ALL. ... IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 15, 2008 02:57 PM
I think the fool is a pretty accurate pull for republicans right nowIP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 15, 2008 05:35 PM
A fool is the best tarot card you can have.3 of wands - yeah the demoSCATs are shifting the attention from Obama's race (color) (because now sex , Palin is in the equation) to anti Bush policies and insisiting McCain is a repeat of Bush. McCain follow thine heart, Bush is not to blame alone. The real war is socialism against capitalism. The entire survival of the demoscats clan is based on socialism. FDR created the SSN program and we all know what a disaster that program is. But it ensured the democrats survival forever in this country. God knows what Obama is planning to make this country spiral downwards even further. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 15, 2008 07:44 PM
Yes Mannu it's just like 1984....capitalists versus socialists...Because the right wing has virtually no opinions on anything...they're all about minimizing big govt right? Clearly we've seen govt minimized in the past 8 years, right? Mannu why do you support the party of the rich and greedy ruling class? Are you rich? IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 15, 2008 07:54 PM
>>>Mannu why do you support the party of the rich and greedy ruling class? Are you rich? rich and greedy is your opinion.
I don't believe in punishing rich people for creating wealth. Whereas you and other socialists do. I ain't no marxist who is jealous of rich people. >>Are you rich? No. And I don't make more than 250k a year. I am in the upper middle class you can say. I have come from india so know that the props in America is well created to handle the economy. I inherited a beautiful country and I wish to keep it that way. I also cannot see it ruined by people who love other nations more than America. While here , they talk about outthere. They bring their crap, their past, in to this country rather than melting into the pot. The more diverse a nation is the more Rich it is. Its ok to keep some part of your tradition alive, but to say "that" was better "there" is to live in the past and not be in the present.
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Eleanore Moderator Posts: 112 From: Okinawa, Japan Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 15, 2008 10:12 PM
I would think that dems wouldn't be so harsh towards the "rich and greedy" folks. After all, what would the Dem party have to stand for if not stealing, I mean taxing, all that money, tieing most of it up in buearacratic processes, and then handing out miserly amounts to "help" the poor? Really, this is not the day when the idea that the rich were "all born into their money" is even viable. There is a large amount of highly successful entreprenuers, business persons and innovators who have made their wealth in their 20s/30s/40s through their own work and sacrifice. Alot of the money nowadays is "new" money. I really think this is one of those arguments that is precisely what the Rep party needs, ironically. As a party, the Dems have forgetten that their target audience is no longer the same as it was even 10 years ago. Their standby arguments are starting to bleed across the lines and that's part of the reason we're seeing a larger number of independents and "centrists", either torn between or disgusted by both sides. Socially liberal, sure, at least moreso than before, but economically conservative. And that's where the big Dems need to do their homework. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 15, 2008 11:07 PM
Mannu you're rambling.We're not talking about punishing rich people, we're talking about a fiscal budget the works, not one that lands us trillions in the whole. Who cares if people are self made? Do I really need to hear your re-iteration of the materialization of the American Dream for the umpteenth time? YAWN I don't understand why that is even a point of contention...democrats are certainly in full support of the American dream.
New material please! Well Eleanore, the republican party is socially conservative and fiscally liberal, so where does that leave us?
With poor science and technology, falling behind in education, lack of stem cell research, and with a failing economy and a government massively in debt. You think McCain and Failin Palin are gonna fix this with the same failed policies? Good luck with your vote. Why aren't we putting more govt dollars towards space and tech? Oh, I know! It's because that money is instead going to line the pockets of the warmongers and oil tycoons. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 15, 2008 11:15 PM
After watching this "woman's" interview I was apalled to hear her stance on abortion and I believe all women in this country should ally AGAINST this monster.how can a person who was never raped know what it must be like to be reminded of that horrible trauma by being FORCED to keep the pregnancy because abortion has become illegal? Or even raise the child of that rape? A woman who was raped by her own FATHER?? Is supposed to keep the child and raise it? What kind of ridiculous logic is that? Republicans talk about the leftists being all about big govt, but what about them imposing their agenda? At least leftists will admit to promoting their agendas, republicans hide behind their lies...pretend to be true conservatives..but when you look at the govt that's been created over the past 8 years it's huge and its FAILING What sort of society does this woman want us to live in? One where the religious beliefs of one group are imposed on the people? So basically she wants to turn the US into IRAN?? IP: Logged |
Eleanore Moderator Posts: 112 From: Okinawa, Japan Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 15, 2008 11:39 PM
I've stated before I'm not 100% against abortions and rape is one of the reasons why. Likewise, nobody but a raped female can understand what another raped female may be feeling. However, for argument's sake, I can understand the other side's argument that it is not the child's fault how s/he came to be and that they're not the ones who should be punished for their biological father's criminal acts. Likewise, no woman would be forced to keep the child. People put their children up for adoption for much less. I've had the opportunity to meet women who have chosen abortion in this situation and those who have not. And I, personally, can't judge either the women or the children who survived on that decision alone. Abortion is one of those topics on which I don't think either side has the right plan. However, I don't think anyone wants to step into the quagmire that is morality/ethics/religious beliefs and how they've ended up as our laws over the course of history.
As for the failure of the government ... I do believe it's failed in many ways. What I can't understand is why the Dems want to pump more money into so many initiatives and theories that have failed ... or come up with new ones that are equally doomed. That doesn't mean that I think Reps have done everything right either ... that's a baseless assumption. Don't forget I'm one of those evil "in the middles" who think, in different ways and on different issues, that both parties are full of it. However, I don't think anyone with even a basic understanding of history and politics can deny that dems/liberals are far less economically conservative than reps/conservatives are. And though I know the denial and the evasion and the passing of the buck is ready to make it's appearance, we only need to look at our Democratically controlled Congress at this nasty turning point in our economy to see the pitfalls ahead of us. And anyone who understands the different functions and responsibilities between the executive branch and the legislative branch can see the same.
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 16, 2008 12:59 AM
quote: And though I know the denial and the evasion and the passing of the buck is ready to make it's appearance, we only need to look at our Democratically controlled Congress at this nasty turning point in our economy to see the pitfalls ahead of us.
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 16, 2008 11:39 AM
Blue, You never mentioned the word "fiscal budget". I may be rambling but you are just ranting. Because it does not make sense to blame Bush alone. We all are equally to blame. Anyhow this is a vast topic to go into. But will say this in short: He inherited a debt from Clinton, who inturn inherited it from Sr Bush...so on and so forth.
quote: You can think of the total debt as accumulated deficits plus accumulated off-budget surpluses.
See that word accumulated over there? And I am saying greed is ok, if it does not break rules and regulations. Enron and Worldcom execs were greedy and they deceived the public. The recent collapse of Freddie Mae , etc is not due deception but mismanagement. I will reply to you over time. Regarding abortion: There is little bit of marxism in everyone. So its easy to start thinking in central planning mode. Example, let there be a central rule protecting abortion rights for woman etc. When the fact of the matter is that some state contitutions does override federal laws. I think there are 12 states that does. Therefore instead of ranting about issues that affect others, bring this up with your state. That is if you are not part of these 12 states. The democrats talk of diversity, where are they when some bible belt states wants to protect those who are not born yet? On the flip side, if there is no abortion permitted in a state which is conservative, shouldn't the state adopt the baby and take care of her if the mother is not able to support? Will that not make them socialist? Where I am going with this is that "Abortion", "Homosexuality" etc,,, are wedge issues and can be ignored while voting a federal candidate. We have spent 100s of years on abortion and sodomy laws And the constitution does keep state and religion separate. I don't hear stories of rape victims screaming they were forced to keep the baby. By whom?
Cheers!!! quote: Morality of a society changes in time. It cannot be written on some dead stones.
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BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 16, 2008 01:46 PM
I'd prefer you called it "raving"IP: Logged |