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Topic: Forget about the Politicans, What kind of world do you want?
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Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2008 02:02 PM
From a distance the world looks blue and green, and the snow-capped mountains white. From a distance the ocean meets the stream, and the eagle takes to flight.From a distance, there is harmony, and it echoes through the land. It's the voice of hope, it's the voice of peace, it's the voice of every man. From a distance we all have enough, and no one is in need. And there are no guns, no bombs, and no disease, no hungry mouths to feed. From a distance we are instruments marching in a common band. Playing songs of hope, playing songs of peace. They're the songs of every man. God is watching us. God is watching us. God is watching us from a distance. From a distance you look like my friend, even though we are at war. From a distance I just cannot comprehend what all this fighting is for. From a distance there is harmony, and it echoes through the land. And it's the hope of hopes, it's the love of loves, it's the heart of every man. It's the hope of hopes, it's the love of loves. This is the song of every man. And God is watching us, God is watching us, God is watching us from a distance. Oh, God is watching us, God is watching. God is watching us from a distance. 25 years and my life is still Trying to get up that great big hill of hope For a destination I realized quickly when I knew I should That the world was made up of this brotherhood of man For whatever that means
And so I cry sometimes when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head And I, I am feeling a little peculiar And so I wake in the morning and I step outside And I take A deep breath and I get real high And I scream from the top of my lungs, What's goin' on And I say hey.... hey.... I said hey, what's goin' on And I say hey.... hey.... I said hey, what's goin' on Ooh, Ooh, Oooohh, Oooohh, what's up... Ooh, Ooh, Oooohh, Oooohh, what's up... And I try, oh my God, do I try I try all the time in this institution And I pray, oh my God, do I pray I pray every single day FOR A REVOLUTION! And so I cry sometimes when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head And I, I am feeling a little peculiar And so I wake in the morning and I step outside And I take deep breath and I get real high And I scream from the top of my lungs, WHAT'S GOIN' ON!! And I say hey.... hey.... I said hey, what's goin' on And I say hey.... hey.... I said hey, what's goin' on And I say hey.... hey.... I said hey, what's goin' on And I say hey.... hey.... I said hey, what's goin' on Ooh, Ooh, Oooohh, Oooohh, what's up... 25 years and my life is still Trying to get up that great big hill of hope For a destination Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace... You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the world... You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one
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posted October 06, 2008 02:12 PM
Nice sentiments, but there is an old belief in Hinduism that if life on Earth becomes too peaceful and harmonious that the creator (Brahma) will be so bored that he'll put an end to everything, and start all over again. I happen to believe them. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2008 02:31 PM
It would be nice though.IP: Logged |
praecipua unregistered
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posted October 06, 2008 03:04 PM
it's hard to be a dreamer, so if we are told that it signals the end of the world then where are we going? no offence StarLover33. i don't question this saying. i just mean that nothing should stop us from being dreamers and woken up idealists. look only in this section "global unity" and u'll see that only inflammatory thread get replies, and some around here know more than other how to be disdainful. if they're happy this way, so be it. myself, i'm a dreamer and happy this way, too. it's easier to be conventionally unconventional than unconventionnally conventional... IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2008 03:44 PM
The only thing certain in life is death and taxes - Mark Twain. So be informed about your government so that you can pay less taxes and with that saved money do things like : buy good books, go for high speed internet, see that great orchestra performance or a broadway show, etc etc. i.e. become more and more wise about this world which we have been born to experience. And most importantly try to find out how to be eternal, if you know you will die some day. Yeah go beyond Brahma and Voltaire's God LOL. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2008 03:57 PM
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2008 04:02 PM
Voltaire:God gave us the gift of life; it is up to us to give ourselves the gift of living well. God is a comedian, playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. God is not on the side of the big battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best. I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him. Illusion is the first of all pleasures. To believe in God is impossible not to believe in Him is absurd.
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Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2008 04:26 PM
God is dead according to Friedrich Nietzsche. So... We only have ourselves to believe in now.IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2008 04:35 PM
Perhaps you are referring to Voltaire's last quote. I think he is making a case against atheists like Nietzsche's.Forget about religion too and be religious as commented above viz sing , dance, work, etc etc. Who is singing, who is dancing, who is working? The God in Man or the Man in God?
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Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 07, 2008 02:49 PM
Mannu What I meant by quoting Nietzsche was to imply that we are all responsible for our actions whether God exists or not. What I think Nietzsche meant by 'God' was our concept of 'God' and how our diversity has divided us. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 07, 2008 02:53 PM
According to jwhop, Friedrich Nietzsche is dead.IP: Logged |
Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 07, 2008 03:30 PM
And according to his friends and family too Jwhop.IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 07, 2008 03:41 PM
>>What I think Nietzsche meant by 'God' was our concept of 'God'I agree. Nietzsche was a great mystic -- and he did kill our old concept of God. But he stopped there. He could have explored further and found the real God. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 07, 2008 04:30 PM
Yeah, Nietzsche and Marx. Marx claimed he killed God.Perhaps Nietzsche believed Marx. In any event, I'll bet Nietzsche was hoping Marx was telling the truth shortly before his death in 1900. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2008 04:00 PM
MANNU fROM ONE OF YOUR RECENT POSTS, "All reasons are man made. There is only cause-effect in the world. You reap what you sow. Every effect has to have a cause. Capitalism -> socialim -> communism -> anarchism. It is the eternal drama of life" TO A LARGE DEGREE This is what I meant by quoting -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God is dead according to Friedrich Nietzsche. So... We only have ourselves to believe in now. We do see things alike whether you care to admit it or not.
Can I ask you what your opinions is of atheism?
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2008 04:04 PM
Atheists: They believe they don't belong with us in this universe They are the homeless in my mind but really aren't IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2008 04:16 PM
>>We only have ourselves to believe in now. We do see things alike whether you care to admit it or not Oh I agree with you on that. God does not have eyes, hands, ears, nose, tongue and skin. We are his people experiencing the multidimensional universe.
However , it goes more than the nuances which I will get in to later on. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2008 04:32 PM
We are HIS? Sure God is not a woman?I would be an atheist if I was brave enough IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2008 04:45 PM
>>>We are HIS? Sure God is not a woman?Or her if you desire. She is like the Genie in the bottle. Can appear to you anyway that you want. BTW, they carried out the experiments in quantum mechanics and noticed that the pattern of electron collected on a screen is influenced by the presense or absense of the observer. Bohr and Einstein had great arguments on that. Einstein was even called out of touch by his peers.
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Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2008 04:51 PM
As in magnetic fields? Is this the lead up to the validation of auric fields?IP: Logged |
Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2008 04:52 PM
God is a frog?IP: Logged |
Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2008 05:03 PM
If only for World War Einstein could have worked on his ideas and theories and proved them. Imagine where we would be now if his creative mind had not been halted by war and nuclear bombsIP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2008 05:18 PM
But perhaps his genius as Einstein reached a pinnacle. He overlooked the works of his peers.Some one has to be more genius than him to carry on where he left behind. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2008 05:30 PM
Yes but I don't think that will happen whilst tv and the current school system saps creativity. It seems like there is no room for idealsim ideas any more.IP: Logged |