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AceNeerav
Newflake

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From: India
Registered: Oct 2009

posted January 24, 2009 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AceNeerav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At the very start let me tell you all i don't mean to start any new debate with this thread. Everyone's opinion is invited. Even jwhop's, with whom i have had a skirmish or two in the past.

Doesn't matter who it is...Bush or Obama, Gandhi or Luther, Churchill or Hitler, Alexander the Great or Julius Caesar, Akbar or Ashoka, Mao or Musharaf... go ahead an put ur opinion.

Please try putting the following...
Name, Country
A short note on him/her
And offcourse...his/her sunsign (please not the entire chart )

and yes knowflakes, lets us not argue or debate or cut each other off about our opinions. I promise i will keep my tendency well in check too.

Only 1 leader per person.

thanks
Neerav

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AceNeerav
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From: India
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posted January 24, 2009 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AceNeerav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (Mahatma Gandhi)
India

Gandhi was the first man who brought non violence in the political arena and was successful too. He inspired great souls from Luther to Mandela. He realized a key aspect to the British Raj in India, the fact that what the world saw as India's diversity the British saw as India's divided identity. While its true that India had (and has) hindus and muslims, christians and sikhs, and others living together and that there was a level of tolerance amongst them, there was (and is) also a great level of suppressed tension between them. It existed between religous groups and castes, states and maharajas. The britishers exploited this fact. What started as a business venture in coastal India soon spread across the sub continent as 'The Raj'. Going one kingdom a time, the British exploited the lax Maharajas and their lack of concern for their subjects and slowly took over them one after the other.

Gandhi knew violence was not the way, not only out of his spiritual inclinations, but also because of practical reasons. During his time there were only 1 lakh (100 thousand) British troops as opposed to 35 crore (30.5 million) indians! then how did the british maintain their rule? The answer is, they used Indian against indian. The british force consisted of indian recruits. the soldiers that crushed the 1857 revolt were not white english men but indians themselves. and it was a part of these troops under the leadership of Mangal Pandey (among the first martyrs of indian freedom struggle) who revolted against the Raj.

So mean was the entire raj in india that it was called a Company, concerned only with its business.

To realize all this complexity, to keep a sense of calm in the midst of this humiliation and to lead 35 crore highly divided people to fight the then mightiest empire in the world without firing a bullet or raising a sword is indeed the work of a mahatma (divine soul)... and he did all this in the name of an experiment... with truth.

Sun Sign: Libra

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juniperb
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posted January 24, 2009 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel

When the word "greatness" comes to mind, Golda Meir comes immediately to the forefront. Her commitment to her land and to her people was the paragon of human dedication. Her complete involvement, tempered with love, fired by fierce devotion, caused the world to know that she was a true mover of mountains.

Though born in Kiev, Russia, she moved to Milwaukee, Wisconsin with her family in 1906. In 1915, she joined the Labor Zionist Party. In 1917, she married Morris Meyerson and they moved to Tel Aviv (then Palestine) in 1921. Later they became the proud parents of Sarah and Menachem.

Eighteen years ago today (March 7, 1969), Golda Meir was nominated by the Labor Party to be Prime Minister of Israel. She held this esteemed position until 1974. Before Golda Meir became Prime Minister, she was the Foreign Minister for Israel from 1956 to 1965, During her time as Foreign Minister, she had the opportunity to work with the cooperative agricultural and urban planning programs between Israel and Africa. Golda Meir was very proud of her international, as well as domestic work. After this time she became the Secretary General of the Mapai Party. She was Minister of Labor from 1949 to 1956, a position which was her personal favorite, for she had the time to work with and for the people.

Always concerned with her people, Golda Meir, working with the Labor Movement, attended the Zionist Congress in Geneva in 1939, to help ensure protection of European Jews. She was greatly saddened to discover that many Europeans were not as caring as she thought they might be. In 1948, she was part of the People's Council signing the vital proclamation establishing the State of Israel.

One of the hardest days in the life of Golda Meir was October 6, 1973 - the beginning of the Yom Kippur War. It was a great tragedy for Golda Meir. In June, 1974, Golda Meir retired from political life.

Dates and positions do not begin to explain the lasting positive influence of Golda Meir. She is still deeply loved today by her people and by millions more throughout the world. Her dedication to her country and her personal concern for all people are legendary. Whatever Golda Meir did, she did for the people.

If Greatness is given a name, it surely is Golda Meir.

May 3, 1898 Taurus
http://www.wic.org/bio/gmeir.htm
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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

- George Eliot

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Mannu
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From: always here and no where
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posted January 24, 2009 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely no one comes to mind. They all chose one thing or the other and made others suffer. A great leader does not lead. He insists that you follow yoursElf. But if you insist will list some later on...

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Quinnie
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posted January 27, 2009 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hopefully Obama!

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MyVirgoMask
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From: Bay Area, CA
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posted January 28, 2009 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My grandma.
Seriously.

Name: Alia
Birth home: Suez, Egypt
Sign: Aquarius Sun/Capricorn ascendant/Cancer moon

She was blunt and yet compassionate, well-educated and highly intelligent, yet also nonjudgmental and open.
This, to me, is awareness.

Nurturing and kind, and slow to anger, but when roused there was hell to pay. She set boundaries patiently, but still had a steely resolve you just wouldn't mess with. No one did.
This, to me, is dignity.

Articulate, and knew how and when to push a matter, and when to drop it and just leave it be.
This, to me, is wisdom.

She battled ignorance and taught by example, brought families together, resolved differences by always finding common ground.
This, to me, is grace.

Too many things to list. She was a leader, for sure. And I don't care if she was my grandma and that's why I'm partial. She rocked

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