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Mannu
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posted February 07, 2009 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MID-MICHIGAN (WJRT) -- (02/05/09)--The saying goes, "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus." But here on Earth, we're all dealing with a recession.
Just who is affected more by an economy in crisis? Men or women?
The December unemployment rate for men was 7.9 percent versus only 6.4 percent for women.
Now one local economics professor says we are in the middle of a "man-cession."
During another great gender debate and during even greater economic meltdown, local residents at Flint's Farmers Market tried to sell us their opinions.
Some think comparing gender and recession is like comparing apples to oranges. Yet according to Dr. Mark Perry from the University of Michigan-Flint, new trends reveal the nation in a "man-cession."
"A male recession of 2008," he said. "It's had a disproportionate effect on men and many more men have lost there jobs."
And the numbers show the shakeup of the three million layoffs in 2008. Perry says 82 percent were men and 18 percent were women.
That translates to more than two million unemployed men compared to only about 460,000 jobless women.
"For every female who lost their job, about 10 men were given pink slips in December," Perry said.
Perry says it's because male-dominant professions like construction and manufacturing have been the hardest hit.
Traditional "female" professions like education and health care have been less effected. And 2009 is making way for a new "lipstick economy."
Higher education is playing a role in this phenomenon. Perry says those with college degrees suffer less unemployment.
But that's also being dominated by women. Perry says of every 135 women who get a degree, only 100 men get one.
There's even more girl power at the masters level. More than 60 percent of those degrees are held by women.

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Dervish
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posted February 07, 2009 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where are they getting this info?

You see, I believe the recession is a hoax. I'd change my mind if I got some hardcore data on it, though, something that has yet to be shown, only asserted. Yet "experts" keep talking with info like this, and I'd like to see where they're getting their data from.

For me to believe it's real rather than a clever hoax, it would be essential to me to see how 2008 compares to 2007 and 2006, too (the farther back, the better).

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katatonic
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posted February 08, 2009 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i agree dervish, and even if a recession could be proved, it is, like global warming AND cooling, part of a natural cycle that keeps inflation in check (somewhat) and therefore is actually GOOD for us! like the climate thing, some species will become extinct, meanwhile, new ones are being discovered at an amazing rate!

what we are seeing is a SHIFT in emphasis, in the way business is done, which some will see as loss and others as CHANGE. all the fearmongering is just that...

as for more men losing jobs than women, more men are in the work force to begin with, their paychecks are generally bigger even for the same job, so they will be seen to be laid off more frequently...

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Quinnie
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posted February 08, 2009 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Mannu I didn't read your post but the MANcession is this by any chance a similar idea to the MANflu?

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Mannu
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posted February 09, 2009 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee, I don't remember where I pulled that article from. But it is verbatim. Their website was under maintenance and I had to pull it from google cache pages.

Well Quinnie the thing is flu does not discern whether the object it attacks is a man or a woman so Flu is simply Flu. Not man-flu nor woman-flu. But recession is impacting man and woman differently.

It is mostly because most of the transportation and construction industry requires heavy lifting and therefore people with muscles and people who can lift upto a 1/4 of their weight is qualified. Therefore few women are qualified. Since the current economy has took the heaviest toll on manufacturing and construction industry -- mostly man are affected than women. And hence Man-cession instead of Re-cession. Umm I love english language at times. Always evolving.

Who ever believes in gender quality without regard to physical characteristics or mental make up when it is needed is a greater fool than the best feminist out there


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Quinnie
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posted February 09, 2009 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twas a joke Mannu! Since the very same 'Flu' seems to be worse for men than for women (or some men would have you believe).

I do accept that recession is effecting men and women differently but in families that doesn't apply as a family is a unit, what effects one effects all.

"Who ever believes in gender quality without regard to physical characteristics or mental make up when it is needed is a greater fool than the best feminist out there"

I'm sure some of the Olympic female champions would disagree with you.
And with regards to mental make-up I'd disagree with you!
hehe
(Have to play feminist here)

You do seem to love to provoke at times Mannu

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Quinnie
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posted February 09, 2009 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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sunshine_lion
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posted February 09, 2009 11:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
would the foreclosure statistics and unemployment figures be considered proof? I guess if you lived around here you would know.

"They're out there losing millions and it's up to me and you to come running to the rescue. Well pardon me if I don't shed a tear/they're selling make believe and we don't buy that here/cause in the real world they're shutting Detroit down, while the boss man takes his bonus pay and jets on out of town/DC's paying out the bankers as the farmers auction ground/while they're living it up on Wall Street in that New York City town, here in the real world they're shutting Detroit down."

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