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Topic: “We Are All Socialists Now”
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2009 11:39 AM
There are no successful Socialist nations in the history of planet Earth. There are no present successful Socialist nations and there won't be any in the future.The idea of Socialism is a fraud, a con, a canard and Socialism destroys every nation which goes down that path. Socialism is nothing more than a thirst for unbridled power by society elitists and serfdom for everyone else in that society. The idea of Socialism cannot stand even the most cursory examination...nor can the elitists who claim to be intellectually, morally and spiritually superior stand any examination. For those reasons, Socialists must shut everyone up who disagrees with them lest their intellectual, moral and spiritual inferiority be exposed for all to see. I always have a good laugh when someone says.."What's wrong with Socialism"? Obviously, the questioner has never lived in a Socialist nation. But the answer to "What's wrong with Socialism" along with the reasons, examples and footnotes would fill every shelf in a public library; the reasons Socialism doesn't work and destroys nations and it's people are legion. February 09, 2009 Cooking American Frogs Otis A. Glazebrook IV “We Are All Socialists Now” is a Newsweek article co-authored by Evan Thomas and Jon Meacham. Evan Thomas is the grandson of six-time Socialist Party of America presidential candidate Norman Thomas. http://www.newsweek.com/id/183663/output/print Could it be that socialism is taking a premature victory lap? One of Norman Thomas’s more memorable quotes is: The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. This, in a nutshell has been the progressive left’s blueprint for the “socialization” of America. Many have compared this strategy to: boiling frogs. The strategy is to start the cooking process by placing the frogs (us) in cold water and slowly turning up the heat up. The complacent frogs enjoy the warmer water at first. By the time the frogs realize what has happened, it is too late. They are cooked. Elections have consequences. The 2006 election gave the Democrats control of Congress. Both bailouts have occurred with Democrats in control of the legislative branch. Under our Constitution, the congress, not the president, passes laws and writes budgets. Predictably the Thomas/Meacham article states: The architect of this new era of big government? History has a sense of humor, for the man who laid the foundations for the world Obama now rules is George W. Bush, who moved to bail out the financial sector last autumn with $700 billion. Bush brought the Age of Reagan to a close; now Obama has gone further, reversing Bill Clinton's end of big government. The story, as always, is complicated. Polls show that Americans don't trust government and still don't want big government. They do, however, want what government delivers, like health care and national defense and, now, protections from banking and housing failure. During the roughly three decades since Reagan made big government the enemy and "liberal" an epithet, government did not shrink. It grew. But the economy grew just as fast, so government as a percentage of GDP remained about the same. Try this for a thought experiment: Could it be that G.W. Bush allowed the Democrats to throw us frogs into the already boiling pot of water? Did Bush knowingly expose the socialist strategy to an overwhelming number of Americans who will realize, in the very near future, that we are the ones being cooked? If so, this may be a far greater service to his country than having kept us safe from a terrorist attack for the last 7-½ years. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/02/cooking_american_frogs.html
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2009 12:00 PM
Wow! Big happy smiley for us all being Socialists now? quote: Did Bush knowingly expose the socialist strategy to an overwhelming number of Americans who will realize, in the very near future, that we are the ones being cooked?
I think this writer is crazy for even suggesting such a thing. Bush seemed rather unconcerned about the incoming administration. IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2009 12:09 PM
lovely article, jwhop. IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2009 12:12 PM
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2009 12:12 PM
Sorry. IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2009 12:14 PM
I'll take it down IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2009 12:14 PM
You don't have to.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2009 12:55 PM
"Bush seemed rather unconcerned about the incoming administration...acoustic"Perhaps Bush knew, that like Carter, O'Bomber was going to destroy his administration in short order with his Socialist policies, his hectoring, lecturing and posturing...and set American's teeth on edge against Socialism. O'Bomber has made a good start already with only 37% of Americans approving of his Porkulus wasteful spending so called stimulus bill to benefit Socialist demoscats and Socialist demoscat interest groups. O'Bomber's personal approval with Americans stood at 80% immediately after he was elected. That's now fallen into the 60s approval range Hi TINK, where have you been?...and, what did you take down? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2009 02:40 PM
It was just me pointing out that the Newsweek article pointed out Bush's Socialistic moves.IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 856 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2009 03:49 PM
Now that I`m a socialist, do I still have to properly use a knife and fork when choking on my frog legs? ------------------ ~ What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2009 04:04 PM
Yeah!!! "God is dead!" --Nietzsche "Nietzsche is dead!" -- God If GOD is dead when Nietzsche was alive and vice versa...
Is God Nietzsche? IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2009 04:13 PM
Yep juni and you have to wash those "frog legs" down with a good bottle of French Bordeaux. Oh, and be sure to point your little finger when you lift your glass. Proper etiquette is so important. Hmmm acoustic, I thought you were suggesting that Bush wasn't concerned about turning the nation over to the Socialist O'Bomber...and therefore, we shouldn't be either.
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Quinnie Moderator Posts: 780 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 09, 2009 04:14 PM
Is God a socialist then?IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6024 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 10, 2009 12:02 PM
whether or not there are any "successful" socialist countries is a matter of opinion/ definition. england, sweden, norway, france and most of europe are "socialist" countries to one extent or another. while we americans might look at them and consider their lifestyles less "successful" than ours, a few years living in one of these countries tends to reveal a pace much more liveable, a focus on more important things than the latest ipod, and basically a quality of life that is not hellbent on consumption to the point of illness...what is YOUR definition of "success"? IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2009 03:05 PM
When it takes the GDP of 27 Socialist nations with about 500,000,000 population to produce the GDP produced by one capitalist nation with 300,000,000 population....that can't be seen as the "success" of Socialism.When this same Socialist system must depend on one capitalist nation to defend them...that can't be considered the "success" of Socialism. When this same Socialist system must support their industries with infusions of cash from their treasuries and joint ventures between government and industry...to compete with industries in the capitalist nation...that can't be considered the "success" of Socialism. When citizens of Socialism are pulling their own teeth because they can't get an appointment with a dentist in their Socialist system...that can't be considered the "success" of Socialism. When citizens with "emergency medical" needs are held in ambulances cued up outside hospitals in the Socialist system for up to 2 hours and another hour or 2 wait time once inside the Socialist hospital...that can't be considered the "success" of Socialism.
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2009 05:01 PM
There's always the longevity factor of say Norway.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 2787 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2009 05:18 PM
I would say that longevity in Norway has everything to do with their diet and nothing whatsoever to do with Socialism.Eat more fish. Although, paying the equivalent of $11.50 per gallon for gasoline...which is what Norway's Socialist government is charging them..would send my blood pressure through the roof. Got to pay for all those Socialist programs. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2009 07:22 PM
Well, their Socialist healthcare system would probably send you on a holiday if your blood pressure went through the roof. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6024 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2009 09:08 PM
i say its your blood pressure that needs doctoring. people still get around in those countries, you know. the roads are also a lot easier to drive on! they actually cherish the right and ability to ride their bikes landsakes alive chillen!!! those backward coots!americans like to look at statistics and figures and tell themselves how much better off we are than anyone else. well apart from having more natural resources than most of those (much smaller) places we are not necessarily better off. even using just statistics, norway is among the top economies in the world. they have private insurance companies in those countries, too, so pulling your own teeth is not necessary. and longevity comes from a saner lifestyle, not just eating fish. had any alligator lately? gee willikers jw, it would probably do your blood pressure a world o' good to go live in one of those backward places for apiece! IP: Logged |