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katatonic
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posted March 05, 2009 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know full well what you will think of this source, the following was sent to me by an internet connection thought you'd like to tear it to shreds....

We Came an Inch from Martial Law,
Bush Justice Department Memos Reveal

By Matthew Rothschild, March 3, 2009 http://www. progressive. org/mag/wx030309. html

It turns out that some of our most paranoid fears about the Bush Administration had a basis in reality.


The Bush Justice Department, if you can call it that, issued legal opinions in late 2001 asserting that the President had the authority to use the military within the US against suspected terrorists, and that he could use the military to barge into your home without a warrant.


“The warrant and probable cause requirements . . . are unsuited to the demands of wartime and the military necessity to successfully prosecute a war against an enemy,” said an October 23, 2001, memo.


The authors were John Yoo, who was then deputy assistant attorney general, and Robert Delahunty, who was special counsel at the Justice Department. And they sent the memo to Alberto Gonzales, then the counsel to the President.


Domestic eavesdropping without a warrant was also OK, according to Bush lawyers at Justice.


They also said the President could unilaterally abrogate treaties, and that Congress had no say-so over the treatment of detainees.


Yoo and Delahunty clearly contemplated waging war here at home.


“Efforts to fight terrorism may require not only the usual wartime regulations of domestic affairs, but also military actions that have normally occurred abroad,” said the Yoo-Delahunty memo.


It contemplated using the U.S. military in the United States for “attacking civilian targets, such as apartment buildings, offices, or ships where suspected terrorists were thought to be; and employing electronic surveillance methods more powerful and sophisticated than those available to law enforcement agencies.” And it recognized that these actions could be “involving as they might American citizens.

It said the decision to use the military this way lies entirely in the President’s hands. “It also bears emphasizing again that it rests within the President’s discretion to determine when certain circumstances . . . justify using the military to intervene.

Yoo and Delahunty also proposed shelving the First Amendment.


“First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully,” they wrote.


This was an “Everything Must Go” fire sale from the Bill of Rights.


And we’re just lucky we somehow managed to escape without getting too singed.


Now Senator Leahy is proposing a Truth Commission.


We need that—and prosecutions—if we are to find out not only just how close we came to a fascist government over the last eight years but also how to prevent that slide in the future.

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katatonic
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posted March 06, 2009 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i see no one has anything to say. well i do. what upsets me most about the NEW administration is that none of this stuff has yet been repealed. to MY knowledge, which as we all know, is limited...does anyone else know anything bout that??

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posted March 06, 2009 02:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kat- I am not surprised. things are rapidly changing.

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jwhop
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posted March 06, 2009 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And yet, no one can state a case where American civil rights were abridged by Bush. This is the kind of blithering blather which is common at leftist websites and has been for the last 8 years.

BTW, the FISA Court ruled recently that Bush did have the constitutional authority to eavesdrop, wiretap, and watch suspected terrorists in the United States.

Bush also had the constitutional authority to declare martial law. Bush did have the authority to use military troops in the US in certain situations.

However, the only thing Bush did do is listen in on terrorist conversations to thwart them, find them, track them, capture them or kill them. All perfectly reasonable under the 4th Amendment. Bush kept terrorists from attacking the United States for more than 7 years when no one would have given any decent odds it was possible.

Now, we have a leftist in the White House who wants to cut the military budget, cut weapons programs, close Gitmo, bring terrorists to the US, give them US citizenship rights and try them in US criminal courts.

I'll know exactly whom to blame if and when another terrorist attack occurs in the US.

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katatonic
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posted March 06, 2009 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
on the contrary, it was the fact that we DID get hit at all that was so shocking, not that there were no MORE hits!! and that has never happened before either which is hardly bush's doing!!

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