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D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 78 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 11, 2006 06:00 AM
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posted June 11, 2006 06:24 AM
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D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 78 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 11, 2006 07:57 AM
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posted June 11, 2006 02:01 PM
Hi,I'm relieved to find you are okay. I wish I had a chance to check this thread sooner. I'm glad to hear you say these more hopeful things, too. I dont pretend to relate to what you are going through, but i will just mention that i have been through periods of major depression and suicidal ideology (no attempts, though). I read your poem. Is that your story? It is tragic. But, if you don't mind my saying so, it is also a story of incredible triumph, isn't it? I mean, the battles a man wins in a courtroom, arent really anything compared to the battles he wins in his own soul, right? Because they are less public, because they are private battles, they are that much harder and lonelier. I know. I will admire you, regardless of what choice you make today, or tomorrow, or next year. You have already survived an intense, transformative experience; you are a survivor, and there is nothing left to prove to anyone, except for maybe yourself. I understand your insecurites about your mind, but, I can assure you, from where I am standing, you appear to have a pretty good head on your shoulders. I would just be careful of training that critical ability of yours on yourself too much. If you are a sensitive person, that is nothing to beat yourself up about. We all have certain strengths, and weaknesses that accompany those strengths. If you did not have this capacity for "wallowing in self-pity", you would not have the capacity to be as considerate of others as you are. People may not always appreciate your sensitivity, and they may not always know how to handle the intensity, but, I promise you, it is very healing for them, whether they know it or not. Also, I am sure you know that making furniture is a noble profession. In this modern world, so few of the things people work so hard to produce are even useful. I want you to know that "the sun also rises". As badly as you have felt lately, you will feel THAT GOOD, if you stick around. It is a natural law of compensation. If I were you, I might even sigh a huge sigh of relief, to think that it will probably be a long long time before its my (your) turn again to get the short end of the stick. This too shall pass. And you will be SO strong. "What doesnt kill me, makes me stronger." - nietzsche Do not worry about regrets now. Do not think about what the "right" thing to do is. You can only cultivate love for yourself. That is where all your power and discipline and will to live comes from. You must forgive yourself, have understanding and compassion for yourself, and learn what it means to be your own best friend. When this happens for you, as i know it will, you will see what I mean about things changing. please take care, ~ S
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posted June 11, 2006 02:39 PM
My friends, how desperately do we need to be loved and to love. When Christ said that man does not live by bread alone, he spoke of a hunger. This hunger was not the hunger of the body. It was not the hunger for bread. He spoke of a hunger that begins deep down in the very depths of our being. He spoke of a need as vital as breath. He spoke of our hunger for love. Love is something you and i must have. We must have it because our spirit feeds upon it. We must have it because without it we become weak and faint. Without love our self-esteem weakens. Without it our courage fails. Without love we can no longer look out confidently at the world. We turn inward and begin to feed upon our own personalities, and little by little we destroy ourselves. With it we are creative. With it we march tirelessly. With it, and with it alone, we are able to sacrifice for others.- Chief Dan George --------------------------------- [Despair] is, one is told, the unforgivable sin, but it is a sin the corrupt or evil man never practices. He always has hope. He never reaches the freezing-point of knowing absolute failure. Only the man of goodwill carries always in his heart this capacity for damnation. - Graham Greene Suffering is the ancient law of love; there is no quest without pain; there is no lover who is not also a martyr. - Heinrich Suso There is no coming to consciousness without pain. - Carl Jung One cannot reach the dawn except by the path of night. - Kahlil Gibran Where there is suffering there is holy ground. - Oscar Wilde Strength is born in the deep silence of long-suffering hearts; not amid joy. - Felicia D. Hemens Affliction is a treasure, and scarce any man hath enough of it. - John Donne Every angel is terrifying. - Rainer Maria Rilke IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 2 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 11, 2006 03:50 PM
D for Defiant~ ( Great name) Were you someone els ebefore here, another incarnation? Familiar energy.... quote: I just hope that I will not try to take my own life again, because if I did so, and God forbid, if I succeeded, I would regret ending this lifetime, this incarnation way too prematurely terribly, and also miss my beloved, here on earth, being torn apart by physical death, beyond words.
Okay then.... D O N ' T . Very simply. Listen to your own self. Find another outlet for the pain when it feels overwhelming. Cope. Try. Be. Don't. IP: Logged |
D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 78 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2006 12:03 AM
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posted June 13, 2006 07:19 AM
What a powerful poem-thank you.Actually, your poem is helping me to COPE with what I am going through ( please read Please guys-need help for friend in FFA). It's strange to think a poem like this is helping me, rather than making me MORE depressed and distressed! Once again thank you. IP: Logged |
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posted June 13, 2006 02:29 PM
D for Defiant & Heart--Shaped Cross HSC...You know I totally understand. I have not said much about my own attempts here at LL. But as you know HSC, I have been in that abysmal well of the darkest deepest soul despair too. It is an awful place and one feels so very alone there. I do not intend to fall into that place again. But there are still times when the pain, both mental and physical, is so bad I find myself peeking over the edge of that place, and then I pull back from that terrible brink just in time. I now have a cover on it. I cannot accidently fall in now. I may scream and thrash above it from time to time but I will not let it suck me down into it again. Will I go there again? Not as before. No. But is it concievable I could consider suicide again? Yes. Before I would lay with tubes keeping me alive in some hospital, yes, I would. But as long as I can function in this body with a future still in sight, I will not try to terminate my physical existence again. I have escaped several attempts and have survived a few real accidents and a few potentially deadly illnesses. I am not supposed to just go end it all. I know now I survived for many reasons. And I am stronger for it all. I understand guys. ------------------ ~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte" ~I am still learning~ Michangelo The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords. The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes. Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages. In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem. -NEXUS-
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posted June 14, 2006 08:24 PM
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posted June 16, 2006 06:00 AM
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posted June 16, 2006 10:32 AM
Ahh thank you D-can't wait for more poems from you. Actually I have written two poems about this incident, this week. I am not going to post them, as they are TOO personal! IP: Logged |
D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 78 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 07, 2006 02:22 AM
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posted March 28, 2009 10:23 PM
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D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 78 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 28, 2009 11:21 PM
That was a long time ago when I was having temper tantrums with people on this site, and in a frantic state, I deleted many of my posts, including a large amount of my poems. It's really a shame. Now I don't even remember what I wrote under this title. All I can recall is it was a short poem, a very short one. I wish I hadn't deleted all those messages, but it's all done.D IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 201 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 28, 2009 11:39 PM
Keep moving forward dear lady. Do not regret what was, because that was then and now is now. You have grown! Hugs! LEXX xoxoxo
------------------ Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain. IP: Logged |
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posted March 29, 2009 02:00 PM
I just stumbled upon it while searching for something else.I didn't even remember this thread, to be honest, but when I saw my understanding and compassionate response to D's heartfelt expression of her angst and distress, I thought it was particularly revealing, and worthy of a bump. Love to you both. I'm glad to see you enjoying brighter days, D.
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LEXX Moderator Posts: 201 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 29, 2009 04:41 PM
It pains me to hear of folks contemplating suicide. Having been there myself, I know exactly how it feels, as I said above. I have also been quite touchy about the issue of late, as two person's in my life have been considering ending it all. Their issues are much heavier than most I have seen "playing" with the idea. Much much heavier One almost did a very short time ago.
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posted March 29, 2009 08:50 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that, LEXX. My love and prayers to them.
You can give them a call and a hug from me.
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posted March 30, 2009 08:51 AM
Some great words here
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posted March 30, 2009 03:37 PM
Thank you, LTT. And thank you, LEXX, for editing your reply. It shows your heart.
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D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 78 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 01, 2009 11:14 PM
LEXX, you said: quote: You have grown! Hugs! LEXX xoxoxo
I really do appreciate your encouragement and positive feedback, LEXX and I still remember how sad I was when I wrote this poem whose contents I don't even recall any more. I know you've been there, LEXX and I'm sorry to hear about the two people in your life who've been contemplating ending their own lives. I believe your wisdom can come in handy for them. And indeed, as you said, LEXX- what was then was then. What is now is now. Regret is something we need the least. The point is having the lessons learned. D xoxoxoxoxo
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D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 78 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 11, 2009 02:05 AM
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posted April 11, 2009 11:09 PM
Thank you, D.I deeply appreciate these words of yours. I have been seeing brighter days, and putting my attention on brighter things. There's faith, hope, and to you, hsc
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D for Defiant Knowflake Posts: 78 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 17, 2009 10:31 PM
D ------------------ The opposite of love is indeed hate, not indifference, for indifference is a form of detachment, and both love and hate are two forms of attachment, and detachment is naturally the opposite of both the two forms of attachment. There are many theories of the relationships between love and hate, but ultimately, hate is death force, which creates untimely or chronic destruction; whereas love is life force, which brings life. IP: Logged |