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Topic: Saint Francis - Dream
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26taurus unregistered
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posted December 31, 2007 04:14 PM
This morning I awoke from a dream in which I was outside somewhere, on a long staircase that was set into the side of a large grassy hill. The stairs were old and worn, made of big wooden beams. Carved into each one was a quote by Saint Francis of Assisi. It was the same quote on each step and I was explaining it to someone who was with me - explaining who had said it and what it meant. The person seemed very interested in what i was saying and was trying to keep up with me as i skipped up and down the stairway over and over again. I remember thinking that i could fall down at any moment because i was going rather quickly up and down the stairs; hopping to them one foot at a time and skipping two or three stairs every so often. But i felt comfortable in what i was doing and having fun and knew i wouldnt fall down.Now of course (and unfortunately) when i woke up the words quickly faded and i couldnt remember what they were. I layed in bed for a bit and tried hard to bring them back into mind. It didnt work. I've been sitting here reading his words and nothing has really rung a bell yet but i'm feeling uplifted and like this was a message/gift for me. So here is a thread dedicated to him and his immortal words. Please feel free to share. IP: Logged |
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posted December 31, 2007 04:17 PM
i love this one:"Preach the Gospel at all times and when necessary use words." St. Francis of Assisi IP: Logged |
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posted December 31, 2007 04:38 PM
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MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 765 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 31, 2007 04:46 PM
Well, no tribute would be complete without:"Lord, make me an instrument of your peace, Where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon; where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope; where there is darkness, light; where there is sadness, joy; O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood as to understand; to be loved as to love. For it is in giving that we receive; it is in pardoning that we are pardoned; and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life."
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NosiS Moderator Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 31, 2007 07:02 PM
Neat dream.I climb the stairs in that fashion all the time. "Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."
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posted December 31, 2007 08:28 PM
Thanks. MM, I was wondering who would be the first to post that prayer. hehe. "I have been all things unholy. If God can work through me, he can work through anyone." St. Francis of Assisi
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posted December 31, 2007 08:38 PM
Besides his well known prayers, i dont know much about Saint Francis.*memory* Someone had let my mother borrow a book on him years ago and I picked it up once while visiting her. I opened right up to a page describing the "Tau Cross". Which i found very interesting at the time. I didnt remember that until i ran across a link on it tonight: http://secularfranciscans.org/i1_2.html Here are some links for further future reading:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/stfran-test.html http://secularfranciscans.org/i3.html IP: Logged |
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posted December 31, 2007 08:41 PM
No one is to be called an enemy, all are your benefactors, and no one does you harm. You have no enemy except yourselves. St. Francis of Assisi
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posted December 31, 2007 09:42 PM
I think god might be a little prejudiced. For once He asked me to join Him on a walk through this world,and we gazed into every heart on this earth, and I noticed He lingered a bit longer before any face that was weeping, and before any eyes that were laughing. And sometimes when we passed a soul in worship God too would kneel down. I have come to learn: God adores His creation. __________________________________ I once spoke to my friend, an old squirrel, about the Sacraments – he got so excited and ran into a hollow in his tree and came back holding some acorns, an owl feather, and a ribbon he had found. And I just smiled and said, "Yes, dear, you understand: everything imparts His grace. ________________________________ The result of prayer is life.
Prayer irrigates the earth and heart.
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posted January 01, 2008 07:16 PM
Thank you for sharing those, Meili. I had not read them before.I just turned this up. A good read: I have come to learn: God adores His creation. God adores his creation… hold on to that, even if you forget everything else in this sermon. You are adored by God… and so is your neighbour… and the gull, and the maple, and the salmon. Adored. Then add this second poem, “Each Soul Completes Me,” written by Hafiz, a Persian poet from the 14th century, that Sufi mystic from the Islamic tradition: My Beloved said, “My name is not complete without yours.” I thought: How could a human’s worth ever be such? And God knowing all our thoughts – and all our thoughts are innocent steps on the path – then addressed my heart, God revealed a sublime truth to the world, when He sang, “I am made whole by your life. Each soul, each soul completes me.” It sounds almost arrogant, doesn’t it… I guess that’s why Hafiz himself asked, “How could a human’s worth ever be such?” And yet just recall the passionate Holy One of Hosea… who keeps reaching out, nurturing… who desires a relationship not just of obedience, of worship…. but of love… freely offered and returned. And when that happens, then God is enriched. Each one of us is created unique in the universe; there has never been anyone like you before, and there never will be again. Who you are, what you are capable of being and doing, of offering to the world… it will never happen quite that way again. The love you receive from God and offer in return is a unique, unrepeatable relationship. And it is incorporated into the being that is God… not a God outside or beyond the world… but one who is right here, who is enriched… might we even say, completed? …by our love."
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posted January 01, 2008 07:48 PM
These are great.I've been reading Emerson's "Self-Reliance", and there are similar themes. About the beauty of the individual, and how each of us completes the creation, and each of us sings our part well, if only we express our honest truth, whatever it may be - as long as it is our own. God wants us to love Him, just as we want to love Him. But He also wants what we want. If a man is pleased to curse God, God is pleased, and curses, along with him, then wryly passes on. Is this true? Without question; it is my truth.
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posted January 01, 2008 09:07 PM
"To believe your own thought, to believe that what is true for you in your private heart is true for all men-that is genius." - -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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juniperb Knowflake Posts: 299 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2008 09:34 AM
26T, I am sure this Canticle is unrelated to your dream, but it is my favorite and wished to include it in this lovely thread!. Saint Francis’ Canticle of All Creatures Most High, all-powerful, all-good Lord, All praise is Yours, all glory, all honour and all blessings. To you alone, Most High, do they belong, and no mortal lips are worthy to pronounce Your Name. Praised be You my Lord with all Your creatures, especially Sir Brother Sun, Who is the day through whom You give us light. And he is beautiful and radiant with great splendour, Of You Most High, he bears the likeness. Praised be You, my Lord, through Sister Moon and the stars, In the heavens you have made them bright, precious and fair. Praised be You, my Lord, through Brothers Wind and Air, And fair and stormy, all weather’s moods, by which You cherish all that You have made. Praised be You my Lord through Sister Water, So useful, humble, precious and pure. Praised be You my Lord through Brother Fire, through whom You light the night and he is beautiful and playful and robust and strong. Praised be You my Lord through our Sister, Mother Earth who sustains and governs us, producing varied fruits with coloured flowers and herbs. Praise be You my Lord through those who grant pardon for love of You and bear sickness and trial. Blessed are those who endure in peace, By You Most High, they will be crowned. Praised be You, my Lord through Sister Death, from whom no-one living can escape. Woe to those who die in mortal sin! Blessed are they She finds doing Your Will. No second death can do them harm. Praise and bless my Lord and give Him thanks, And serve Him with great humility. Heavenly Father, You gave Your servant Francis great love for each of Your creatures. Teach us to see Your design in all of creation. We ask this in Jesus’ Name. Amen.
Saint Francis of Assisi
------------------ ~ What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
NosiS Moderator Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2008 09:48 AM
Beautiful, juniperb! The poem has an Essenic essence to it... IP: Logged |
juniperb Knowflake Posts: 299 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2008 10:01 AM
Your welcome NosiS Yes and it is lovely to feel the Unity of all Faiths woven thru the Canticle as well. I always saw St Francis as wearing the sandles of all Faiths and every heart/faith could read his work and be moved. I was always moved by the American Indian essence of it. ------------------ ~ What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
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posted January 02, 2008 10:05 AM
Lovely start to the day. Thank you all. IP: Logged |
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posted January 02, 2008 10:43 AM
lovely thread. lovely dream. quote: I always saw St Francis as wearing the sandles of all Faiths and every heart/faith could read his work and be moved.
very much so. for myself, i sense an underlying current of buddhism. the squirrel and his sacraments is a favorite. IP: Logged |
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posted January 02, 2008 08:44 PM
That is beautiful, juni!! Thank you.Especially this part: "Praised be You, my Lord through Sister Death, from whom no-one living can escape. Woe to those who die in mortal sin! Blessed are they She finds doing Your Will. No second death can do them harm." IP: Logged |
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posted January 04, 2008 07:54 PM
Great! thread...IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 2159 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 15, 2010 06:05 PM
Just stopping by because I was thinking about this dream today and trying to remember it. Glad I documented it and found the thread.My life as of late has taken some major turns with serious ups and downs, but i'm still alive somehow. Recently I was in an abusive situation and beat up pretty badly. At the end of it all, I was able to save two dogs from an abusive owner. One of them is now in my care, the other is in a safe home. The one in my care was a rescue that came a long way - from another abusive environment. He does not trust most people and I am working on finding us a place to live that will allow a pet because I will not send him back to a shelter where he will be traumatized even more or possibly worse - put to "sleep" because he is "aggressive". The last time he was at a shelter he was trying to bite everyone who came near him only because he was scared. Trust me, this dog is a sweetheart. If anyone approaches him, he hides behind me with his tail between his legs because he has become very distrustful of people. Besides being away from the abuser, things are looking pretty bleak atm, but i am working on fixing it. The first time i met this little dog, he ran up to me and sat in my lap, which suprised the owner because normally he growled at and tried to bite anyone that came near him. He is especially NOT fond of men and only some females. He follows me everywhere, sleeps with me at night, waits outside the bathroom door for me to come back out and gets distressed when i have to leave him alone. I feel like I was brought into this situation because things may have gotten worse for these creatures and they are not able to speak for themselves so i came along and things turned out the way they did. I have always had a huge love for animals, especially dogs. I was thinking that maybe my love for animals and reserve of strength was somehow called upon unconsiously to enter into this situation and put an end to it? I'm not sure. It's the only way i can make sense of it all. This person is in jail now and I hope to make it so he can never be around animals again and has to get the help he so desperately needs. My wounds are healing and I think the animal's are too. Most of the time I feel like I dont know why I'm here. Then, something like this happens and it gives me hope/confidence that maybe im here for a purpose and if that is the case, I will gladly stick around to help out the helpless in any way I can. What's keeping me going now, is my new pal and knowing that he will never be hurt again as long as I'm alive. And that he has a safe person to be with. I don't want to sound dramatic, but this is the truth and words cant describe the emotions surrounding this. It is beyond sad. It's absolutely sickening. It is the most disgusting thing a human being could do. This small dog has given me strength to go on....and i wonder what's around the next corner...pray that my time here is spent doing something worthwhile and helpful. To be made of use here. Part of me is just as lost, confused and sad as he is right now. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 2159 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 15, 2010 06:12 PM
Also, my laptop computer was destroyed in this incident so I have limited computer access atm. So dont worry too much if i dont post often. I will update when I can, because I think there are a handful of people here who truly care about me and would like to know what is going on in my crazy life. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 2159 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 15, 2010 06:19 PM
Also, the name he had or was given when he was rescued is the Japanese for word for "Teacher or Mentor". Of course it is very telling and fitting to me, and I think it fits him perfectly. If you could say a little prayer for him, i'd appreciate it. Thanks.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 1158 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 15, 2010 07:12 PM
I wish we had a hugging smiley - I can't log into Photobucket right now, otherwise you would at least get a virtual hug.I'm glad you posted, and I have some small idea of what you're talking about - there's no need to apologize for sounding dramatic. You both have my prayers. If I could help in any other way, I would. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 3311 From: acousticgod@sbcglobal.net Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 15, 2010 07:18 PM
I'm glad you're alright. You're loved and capable of such beauty.IP: Logged |
SunChild Moderator Posts: 837 From: Melbourne. Victoria. Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 15, 2010 09:01 PM
T! Glad you are ok. *hugs*I could feel the emotional intensity in your post- it's definitely hard to make sense of these things for sure, I've been put through the ringer a few times. Yes, animals really are something special and really mean something significant, especially how and in what manner they enter our lives, as they here to teach us so much. Sorry it was such a trying effort in where you were hurt. It's hard to imagine the abuse that goes on without falling a part- it makes me think how much more the average person could do for these creatures. I have witnessed cat cruelty and my heart is still broken from it 9 years later. You are an Angel for sure T. The bond you both have is beautiful and something that will stay a part of your spirit permanently. Sending you both my Love. IP: Logged | |