posted June 27, 2009 07:10 PM         

And D you are just awesome with writings and this all was written by you...
good to see a poet in you...
It's very touching......

posted June 28, 2009 03:38 AM         

I appreciate it.

I used to be a far better poet than I am now.
I would rhyme every two lines, or every other line; however, I never quite paid attention to the meters.

Poetry means something very deep to me. I've always tended to express some of my most intense feelings through putting them down into poems.

I just viewed a post by a fellow LL member who condemned MJ's alleged crimes and stated how she was not sorry that MJ is dead.

It seems that on our level of existence here on this planet, truth is indeed relative.

Regardless of MJ's behavior when he was alive, his immense contribution and influences to the contemporary popular culture are undeniable. Many artists, most of whom musicians- were inspired by him.

Regardless of MJ's innocence or otherwise, I think he was a man who desparately needed healing of the psyche, but never took any opportunity to initiate such healing

D

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Every night and every morn,
Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.

posted June 29, 2009 01:26 PM         

YOU ROCK the HOUSE!

Massive respect to you. I think your song/poem/take on MJ is spot on and l think your tribute is beautiful.

posted June 30, 2009 10:19 AM         

Thank you. I have practically nothing else to say but thank you. And thank you for your loving kindness for Michael.

VinayM19,

Thank you. I am just like the rest of us- I have my strengths, as well as my shortcomings. I am simply like the rest of us, I am still learning. I have merely begun to finally learn.

Michael was the one who was, and shall remain, unique, among us earthlings. He was too good for this barbaric world. I hope he has gone to a better place now. There are MJ haters here at LL who criticize us for (paraphrasing) "perceiving Michael Jackson as a saint...he was no saint...far from it...", to these persons, I must clarify:

I have never said that Michael was a saint.

Michael was human, like the rest of us; a human being who was way above average, but nevertheless had his own advantages and flaws, just like the rest of us- and suffered his pain, his psychache as a human being, just like the rest of us. He spent his entire life being unhappy, unfulfilled, and very, very misunderstood. Even upon his untimely and mysterious death, MJ haters still do not let go of all the hatred they harbor for Michael, as though, as a human being, Michael did not even deserve basic respect and condolences from us as a human being, merely because MJ haters have Michael presumed guilty. All the hatred they harbor...all because his was Michael Jackson. Where is the love? Fortunately, I have seen some love for Michael, but far too little, and yet still so much resentment, the hatred far outweigh the love for Michael. Please read the information resources I have found and which are reliable. I am urging anyone of you to please take some of your precious time and your patience to read the following, which is coming up next.

D

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Every night and every morn,
Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.

posted June 30, 2009 11:31 AM         

http://floacist.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/where-is-jordan-chandler-now/#comment-5096

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2007 October 25 the floacist permalink

Jordan never accurately described the marks on Michael’s genitalia. In fact, he wasn’t even the one who drew it in the first place; Evan Chandler (his father) did. In January 1994, USA Today printed an article confirming that, “photos of Michael Jackson’s genitalia do not match descriptions given by the boy who accused the singer of sexual misconduct.” Some tabloid reports may indicate otherwise but keep in mind that the District Attorney brought his “evidence” in front of two grand juries and charges were not filed. If the photos matched the boy’s description, the case would have probably gone to trial.
http://floacist.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/settlement-not-enough/

If I a was an abused victim as a child, I wouldn’t want nor accept money. If a child and/or a parent settles for money they’re ******* heartless, lack of moral and have no decency. You do not accept money from a criminal who violated your son or daughter. A better question is why take money to forget you were molested? If I was a victim of rape or molestation, I and my family would want that perpetrator to be in prison – more likely for himself being abused, and see how he likes it. Let an offender free into the public?

What a lot of people simply do not understand is that there was never, ever a single iota of information which connected Jackson to the 1993 allegations, and yet there was an absolute wealth of information which suggested he was innocent. What people also don’t realize is that when Jackson paid his settlement, he was settling a civil case not a criminal case; he was not being prosecuted, he was being sued. There is a clause in the settlement which states that Jackson in no way acknowledges any wrongdoing by signing the settlement. There is another clause which specifically states that a settlement in the civil case in no way affects the recipients’ right to testify in a criminal case. The reason no criminal case was brought in 1993 was that the allegations were ludicrous and they couldn’t find any information to back them up. Thomas Sneddon presented the case to two grand juries and both of them laughed him out of court. He wasn’t even allowed to bring charges because his case was so pathetic.

The belief Jackson ‘bought his way out of jail’ has no weight yet everyone uses that as their blind justification of guilt. There was never a case against Jackson in 1993 and that was evident over a year prior to the settlement. With the criminal case in limbo because it was so moronic and the allegations hanging over his head until the media got some resolution, a settlement was the only way Jackson could make everything disappear. Diane Dimond known for her stupid antics to try to make anything ‘Michael Jackson’ even bigger than what it was, leaked the actual documents of the settlement. In the documents one find many ‘interesting’ things. For example, in the document Michael Jackson denies ever having any sexual contact with Jordan Chandler. And to make things even more interesting, the parents of Jordan Chandler, Evan and June Chandler agreed to that denial. Here is that part of the document:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0616041jacko5.gif

Also, in the document it actually says the Chandlers can only speak of the case in a court of law. For 10 years the media has been spreading the lie that the settlement somehow stopped the Chandlers from testifying against Jackson. Another myth destroyed by the factual document.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0616041jacko7.gif

Another myth that the settlement was for more than 30 million when in fact it was only 15,331,250, both Evan and June Chandler obtained 1.5 million while Larry Feldman obtained 3 million and 10% of the settlement which would bring his earnings to 5 million dollars.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0616041jacko21.gif

And how much Jordan Chandler got? The most he could’ve gotten was 8 million dollars. Who leaked this private document? The only party that had this particular document was Lisa Marie Presley’s attorney at the time. So who gave it to Diane Dimond? Hmmm.

Entire document here:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0616041jacko1.html

You also left out the part where Jordan and has told people [personal] that Michael Jackson is not a pedophile. You also left out the part where last year in July, Evan Chandler struck his son with a dumbbell and basically tried to murder him.
http://lawlibrary.rutgers.edu/decisions/appellate/a0422-05.opn.html

What a great father. Not only that, he wrote a book about his son’s rape. “Michael Jackson Was My Lover-The Secret Diary of Jordie Chandler”. Even his brother chipped in. Raymond Chandler, author of book “All That Glitters: The Crime and the Cover Up” which deals with the alleged sexual abuse of his nephew Jordie by Michael Jackson. Team effort! How considerate.[edit] That book was written by Victor Guiteriezz, he also said that there was a videotape of Michael molesting one of Jermaine’s sons. Michael sued him about the book AND Hard Copy(they ran the story about the fake videotape) and Michael won the suit, but Victor left the country. It was one of the few times Michael actually fought back the allegations.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6996/bookqf2.jpg

You also forgot the part where Evan Chandler was caught on tape speaking about his extortion plans on the telephone. You can read the whole transcript here
http://floacist.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/the-tapes-will-come-out-court-transcrip t-of-chandler/

Please don’t ever leave a comment like that again. I know first hand what it feels like to be raped. I’m not going to go into detail, because thats personal. Do you know how that feels like? Maybe you do, maybe you don’t. Point is. Let me tell you something. I am not some crazy fan who believes in his innocence because I like ‘Beat It’ and ‘Thriller’. If he was a child molester I’d burn all my CDs & memorabilia and wish him to burn in hell.

Do I approve of Michael having sleepovers with young children that are not his own? NO! That violates a social norm, and that is why it is looked down upon. However, entire families visit the Ranch. There is no way possible that this man could possible have the time and secrecy to abuse a child in his house, and not have the victim find their way out and tell their parents immediately. When Michael infamously said he shared his bed, he didn’t mean his literal bedroom. They’re not even IN his bedroom. His home is 3,000 acres. Guests stay over in the guest rooms, as in parents and their children. If said children would like to stay with Michael (and Lisa Marie Presley his ex-wife testified this herself that they follow them where ever they go) he specifically said that he tells them to ask their guardians if its okay. And if they do, Michael sleeps on the floor. It is rude to let a guest sleep on a coach, a floor or any other uncomfortable position while you stay in the comfort of your own bed.

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PLEASE TAKE TIME AND YOUR PATIENCE TO READ THIS: BELOW IS THE SECOND PART- WHICH IS A GROUNDBREAKING AND MONUMENTAL ARTICLE

Was Michael Jackson Framed? by Mary A. Fischer GQ magazine 1994

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread477059/pg1

D

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Every night and every morn,
Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.

posted June 30, 2009 07:28 PM         

Thank YOU for what you said on my thread about my grievance with Diana. It is nice to know that others see the aries honest warrior-spirit for what it is

posted July 02, 2009 01:45 AM         

God bless you, Lara.

I only have probably Eris in Aries in the 7th conj Ceres in Aries in the 8th; however, since I do have Mars conj ASC both in the same sign- in some way, I do share the characteristics with either Sun Aries natives or stellium Aries natives. I can totally relate to you, Lara. I understand where you are coming from.

The zodiac sign Aries represents the first zodiacal house among the twelve zodiacal houses- and Aries represents birth. Aries is co-ruled by both Mars and Pluto, with Mars being the bigger influence. The other name for the Greek/Roman warrior god Mars, is Ares- which is very, very similar to the sign Mars co-rules- Aries. Most predominantly Aries-influenced people and most Mars conj ASC people, most Mars in the 1st people, can understand and empathize with one another very well- something less easy for other individuals to grasp. To us, we are fighters- because in a world with such apallingly excessive injustice and lies, we Aries-influenced and Mars-influenced (only either conj ASC or in the 1st or both) people seek the truth, resent lies and liars, and with an in-born sense that we human beings (and as well as animals and other beings) are born to struggle for survival with all our might. Our approach may offend many, may be misunderstood by many- but once we Aries, stellium Aries, and Mars conj ASC, Mars in the 1st people learn to incorporate the virtues of some of the other zodiac signs, we surely can accomplish a great deal.

I suggest that we fellow Mars/Aries predominant people learn from:

The diplomacy of the symbolism of Libra;

The powerful will, mental stamina, amazing self-control, often indirect self-defense, or counterattack, or initiation, and discretion of the symbolism of Scorpio-

[EDITED TO ADD:]"Speak softly, but carry a big stick." ~ Theodore Roosevelt, solar Scorpio

The incredible patience, determination to succeed, the deceptive (but not necessarily remotely in a negative sense) calmness/nonchalance, the knowing of the useful being quiet (on the appropriate occasions, that is) which often procedes being loud...of the symbolism of Capricorn.

Then our likelihood of conquering the enemy (whoever they are) and win the many battles that are life itself, significantly increases.

THANK YOU AGAIN, Lara- for being your true self, for being honest with yourself and as well as with others, and for being there for Michael

Thank you.

Again, God bless.

D

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Every night and every morn,
Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.

posted July 02, 2009 05:11 AM         

http://www.buttonmonkey.com/misc/maryfischer.html

D

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Every night and every morn,
Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.