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Venus
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posted July 29, 2011 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Astronomer
In the shadow of the temple my friend and I saw a blind man sitting alone. And my friend said, “Behold the wisest man of our land.”

Then I left my friend and approached the blind man and greeted him. And we conversed.

After a while I said, “Forgive my question; but since when has thou been blind?”

“From my birth,” he answered.

Said I, “And what path of wisdom followest thou?”

Said he, “I am an astronomer.”

Then he placed his hand upon his breast saying, “I watch all these suns and moons and stars.”
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from the Madman by Jubran Khalil Jubran

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posted July 29, 2011 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WoW! He has said it all in just a couple of words. A genius indeed. I want to get hold of this book.

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posted August 03, 2011 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer/Scorpio729     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand this...

I am a noob

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posted August 03, 2011 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe, @CS you should keep in mind that this is a madman talking (the book is titled madman) so dont take the face value

in short, what is meant is that wisdom comes from the inside, thats why a blind man, who doesnt have the prejudice of a man who can see, is the wisest man around. he figured out that to be wise you have to forget the tangible and focus on the intangible

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posted August 03, 2011 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@abcd its your lucky day!! this book is available for full free download! here's a link.. actually no download necessary you should just print the pages or read it online http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jrcole/gibran/madman/madman.htm

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posted August 05, 2011 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ýI dwell in the midst of a perfect race, I the most imperfect..
from "the Madman"

the older i get the more i fall in love with this book!

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posted August 05, 2011 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VENUS THANKS TONS!!!


The first one itself overwhelmed me, welled up the eyes with tears. What magic!! What Power! TRUTH in all its glory and beauty! His parables are like groups of beautiful women. Sorry, i couldn't help it. Too strong a temptation. I am posting it here.

HOW I BECAME A MADMAN


You ask me how I became a madman. It happened thus: One day, long before many gods were born, I woke from a deep sleep and found all my masks were stolen -- the seven masks I have fashioned and worn in seven lives -- I ran maskless through the crowded streets shouting, "Thieves, thieves, the cursed thieves."
Men and women laughed at me and some ran to their houses in fear of me.
And when I reached the market place, a youth standing on a house-top cried, "He is a madman." I looked up to behold him; the sun kissed my own naked face for the first time. For the first time the sun kissed my own naked face and my soul was inflamed with love for the sun, and I wanted my masks no more. And as if in a trance I cried, "Blessed, blessed are the thieves who stole my masks."
Thus I became a madman.
And I have found both freedom and safety in my madness; the freedom of loneliness and the safety from being understood, for those who understand us enslave something in us.
But let me not be too proud of my safety. Even a Thief in a jail is safe from another thief.

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posted August 05, 2011 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your most welcome

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posted November 01, 2011 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey abcd efg where have you been havnt seen u around!

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posted December 15, 2011 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Venus how are you? I have changed my user id to Love&Light. Anyways, i couldn't enter LL for the last 1 1/2 months. Don't know what the problem was as i could do so today without having any solution to it.

Guess what, we are collecting some good books' names for our office library and i have recommended The Madman. The Prophet is already there. Btw have you read Rumi. I havn't. But liked him instantly the other day when i read only a few stanzas. I am recommending two of his books too. I am so excited. Lets see whether they are chosen/available here.

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posted December 20, 2011 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so great to hear from you

i've read some takes on Rumi mostly in a class i took on Sufi literature. but i haven’t actually read any of his books, what books of his are you recommending?

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posted January 25, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you are doing gr8 venus. Boy am i glad to get in and post. I was again out for more than a month. I think whenever there is problem in server i can get in and then i am out.

I am recommending 'Forbidden Rumi' and 'Me and Rumi: The Autobiography of Shams-1 Tabrizi'. Also, The Sufi Path of Love.

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posted February 01, 2012 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
L&L

missing you around here, hope u fixed that glitch and that u'll be around alot more!

sorry i didnt reply earlier i was on a personal hiatus..

i just added 'Forbidden Rumi' and 'Me and Rumi' to my Must Read list.. thanks for the advice

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posted February 09, 2012 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww sooo sweet! Love it!

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posted March 18, 2012 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venus:
The Astronomer
In the shadow of the temple my friend and I saw a blind man sitting alone. And my friend said, “Behold the wisest man of our land.”

Then I left my friend and approached the blind man and greeted him. And we conversed.

After a while I said, “Forgive my question; but since when has thou been blind?”

“From my birth,” he answered.

Said I, “And what path of wisdom followest thou?”

Said he, “I am an astronomer.”

Then he placed his hand upon his breast saying, “I watch all these suns and moons and stars.”
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from the Madman by Jubran Khalil Jubran



“My view is that if your philosophy is not unsettled daily then you are blind to all the universe has to offer.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson

“For me, I am driven by two main philosophies: know more today about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson

“In modern times, if the sole measure of what’s out there flows from your five senses then a precarious life awaits you.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson, Death by Black Hole: And Other Cosmic Quandaries

“The atoms of our bodies are traceable to stars that manufactured them in their cores and exploded these enriched ingredients across our galaxy, billions of years ago. For this reason, we are biologically connected to every other living thing in the world. We are chemically connected to all molecules on Earth. And we are atomically connected to all atoms in the universe. We are not figuratively, but literally stardust.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson

“I look up at the night sky, and I know that, yes, we are part of this Universe, we are in this Universe, but perhaps more important than both of those facts is that the Universe is in us. When I reflect on that fact, I look up—many people feel small, because they’re small and the Universe is big, but I feel big, because my atoms came from those stars .”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson

“I watch all these suns and moons and stars.”
-The Astronomer
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/a/below_above.html




http://www.thehumanist.org/humanist/09_sept_oct/TysonInterview.html

The Humanist: Dr. deGrasse Tyson, it’s great to be with you here at the 68th Annual American Humanist Association Conference in Phoenix, Arizona. Is this your first humanist conference?

Neil deGrasse Tyson: My very first. I didn’t even know they existed. I guess I’m a little out of it, being a scientist all my life.

The Humanist: Well, we’re really glad you’re here and that you’ve discovered us, in a sense. What are your impressions so far?

Tyson: Everybody is friendly, the topics are all very interesting, and it’s clear that there is quite a lot of work to be done to make sure we have the country that we all thought we were given 230 years ago when it was founded.

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posted March 26, 2012 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ambition

Three men met at a tavern table. One was a weaver, another a carpenter and the third a ploughman.
Said the weaver, "I sold a fine linen shroud today for two pieces of gold. Let us have all the wine we went."
"And I," said the carpenter, "I sold my best coffin. We will have a great roast with the wine."
"I only dug a grave," said the ploughman, "but my patron paid me double. Let us have honey cakes too."
And all that evening the tavern was busy, for they called often for wine and meat and cakes. And they were merry.
And the host rubbed his hands and smiled at his wife; for his guests were spending freely.
When they left the moon was high, and they walked along the road singing and shouting together.
The host and his wife stood in the tavern door and looked after them.
"Ah!" said the wife, "these gentlemen! So freehanded and so gay! If only they could bring us such luck every day! Then our son need not be a tavern-keeper and work hard. We could educate him, and he could become a priest."

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jrcole/gibran/madman/madman.htm


A priest is to still roll his sleeves and labor every morning or else miss a vital part of life.

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posted March 27, 2012 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its funny you would quote this one cause i kinda dont get it..

is he being sarcastic about how some men splurge their earnings while others are saving up for their families?

what do u think?

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posted March 27, 2012 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well its old world,

The thing I get from it was two groups of people got what they wanted and both were happy.

No harm was done.

I wasn't paying much attention to anything else so I may have missed something that you caught.

Hey I am human, I make mistakes.. I make good on them though.

* I mean Old World because its rings heavy with a Pisces/Virgo theme, makes my teeth grind a lil bit to be honest. The Tyson quotes are more my speed.*

Nice talking to you Venus.

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posted March 27, 2012 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mblake81:

The thing I get from it was two groups of people got what they wanted and both were happy.


if thats the case then this would make a better economics lecture than any one i have already attended (economics graduate here )

mblake i love everything you share, always interesting

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posted March 27, 2012 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ambition, Its funny how the people of the east say things like this are bad. They are when they are cannibalistic in their expression.

However when ambition is re-directed it can become a more powerful tool for honest goodness than anything I have heard preached.

Difference is one is active and is being lived/experienced (human being)

The other is being kicked into your ear...

Labor/Aid/Knowledge are great basics.(Aqua/Leo will be here in due time, Quality.)

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posted March 27, 2012 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edit: apologies I blew a fuse.

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posted April 03, 2012 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no prob. Mblake take it easy

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posted April 03, 2012 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKOoTRE1HUc&feature=related


New interview with Neil degrasse Tyson.

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posted April 03, 2012 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As Mulla Nasrudin the fool tells it:

There were four travelers who met up one evening. Each of them were
from different countries and were poor, each haveing only one coin
each. As they talked and shared stories of traveling, they became
hungry. Pooling their money, they decide to go to the town and buy
food. The Chinese man said that he really wanted Taizee. The Arab
wanted Anab. The Persian wanted Angur while the Turkish man wanted
uzum. They fell to arguing over what to buy and the situation
became quite ugly, with all of them screaming and yelling at each
other.

A Sufi traveling passed by and approached the group. After all had
settled down a bit, the Sufi said, "Give me all your money and I
will decide what to bring you for dinner". The group agreed and
gave him the money and the Sufi went to the local village. Shortly
he returned with only one item, grapes.

As the Sufi approached with the large bunch of grapes, the faces of
all the men were lit with joy. It was indeed what they had all
wanted. Taizii, Anab, Angur, and Uzum are all different words in
different languages for the same thing...grapes.

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~

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Red/Black seedless are my favorite. Sour grapes are not my thing. Slightly frozen sweet grapes on a hot summer day is a welcome treat.

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