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pippastrelle
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posted November 27, 2012 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pippastrelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
War

A politic,a religion.

a trigger, a boot

mindless intentions,

fuelled by hate,

flawed ideologies,

no vision, no change

interminable cycle

vilify and berate.

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powerful rhetoric,

vitriolic , acerbic,

indoctrinated masses

soul essences plundered

lost in the quagmire

bloodshed and tears

grief of all nations

year upon year.


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Randall
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posted November 28, 2012 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Appropriate for today's world.

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Faith
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posted November 28, 2012 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yes.

"One word of truth shall outweigh the whole world."

-Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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pippastrelle
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posted November 29, 2012 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pippastrelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the comment, guys!

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Faith
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posted November 30, 2012 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I hope I wasn't too ambiguous...what I was thinking is, part of the reason war goes on and on is because people allow it (as you said, "indoctrinated masses.") And the reason they allow it is because they don't understand it. There is this big fog about the reasons, fog about the casualties, fog about the ethics.

So I think poetry, which can cut through all of that, is important. It can wake people up. Like I'm thinking of the lyrics, "All we are saying is give peace a chance." That was a powerful mantra for the Vietnam era.

In a lecture in Oslo, Julian Assange quoted those words of Solzhenitsyn's that I posted above, and he added: "He was talking about the world of lies." One word of truth overturns the world of lies. If you think about it, it's true: one utterance in a courtroom could determine the outcome of a whole trial; one key phrase from one witness could upset a whole conspiracy of liars.

So.....

What I'm getting at is, I really value your poem, because it exposes reality in a form that is digestible. It is beautiful to read so it keeps your attention on the problem.

I think that the anti-war effort, when taken on by the poets, artists, musicians, can do wonders to wake people up, in a way that regular news reports just can't do (especially when the news is very censored and sanitized.)

On the contrary, when the entertainment industry is "militarized," and vixens are appearing in camo in many videos...that shows we are pretty much screwed.

"Let me make the songs of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."

-English proverb

Didn't want to get too heavy here but...well, we are all Caps so far on this thread. We can handle it.

Thanks for posting.

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Faith
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posted November 30, 2012 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and this is my favorite anti-war song, very catchy:

Ping Pong

Lyrics:

it's alright 'cos the historical pattern has shown
how the economical cycle tends to revolve
in a round of decades three stages stand out in a loop
a slump and war then peel back to square one and back for more

bigger slump and bigger wars and a smaller recovery
huger slump and greater wars and a shallower recovery

you see the recovery always comes 'round again
there's nothing to worry for things will look after themselves
it's alright recovery always comes 'round again
there's nothing to worry if things can only get better

there's only millions that lose their jobs and homes and sometimes accents
there's only millions that die in their bloody wars, it's alright

it's only their lives and the lives of their next of kin that they are losing
it's only their lives and the lives of their next of kin that they are losing

it's alright 'cos the historical pattern has shown
how the economical cycle tends to revolve
in a round of decades three stages stand out in a loop
a slump and war then peel back to square one and back for more

bigger slump and bigger wars and a smaller recovery
huger slump and greater wars and a shallower recovery

don't worry be happy things will get better naturally
don't worry shut up sit down go with it and be happy

dum, dum, dum, de dum dum, de duh de duh de dum dum dum... ah ah
dum, dum, dum, de dum dum, de duh de duh de dum dum dum... ah ah

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Swift Freeze
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posted November 30, 2012 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Older men declare war. But it is the youth that must fight and die.
Herbert Hoover


Great use of brevity and arrangement.

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pippastrelle
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posted November 30, 2012 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pippastrelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with your comment completely , Faith. I think poetry, lyrics, etc, can cut to the heart of an issue in one phrase/verse which the public can identify and resonate with. "Give Peace A chance" is one of my favourite songs, and will remain an iconic lyric for years to come, I feel. John Lennon had the gift of tapping in to the collective feelings of the masses thus producing material which could speak for the vast majority of the public , as it were. As you say poets , musicians etc can be an excellent medium for promoting the anti war effort; sanitised, heavily edited News only tells a fraction of the true reality. I tend usually to stay clear of political issues in my writings, for no particular reason, other than personal choice and preference, although some of my writng has been described as dark and morose; I tend to veer towards the darker side of the" psyche" for some reason . I think by understanding and accepting the existence of the darker side we can appreciate and embrace the light more fully and completely.

Thanks again for your reply , agree with your sentiments totally.

Ping Pong is one of my favs too

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Faith
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posted December 01, 2012 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pippastrelle:
I think by understanding and accepting the existence of the darker side we can appreciate and embrace the light more fully and completely.

Well said!!

And who knew you were a Stereolab fan?

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pippastrelle
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posted December 01, 2012 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pippastrelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sis says I have weird taste in music, I prefer to call it "eclectic" lol

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