posted April 17, 2013 09:37 AM              

"I am content," you say, "to stay," and kiss me on the way...

Why art thou two-faced,
Confessing to me one thing
And another to the simple crowd;
Not proclaiming thy truth at loud?

'Tis not as it was in former times,
When truth was bound to the stake,
Or broken on the rack and wheel,
If it was not concealed.

What dost thou fear
But thy friend's distemper,
Whose peace should well be lost;
Being purchased thus at such a cost?

How callest thyself "friend",
When complicity would thou guard;
And not his virtue, not his soul;
Only what he leaves below?

False comforter, though he praise thee
For praising his wicked ways,
And call thee wise, when, like a fool,
Thou leadest him from school --

posted May 02, 2013 02:50 AM            

Thank you HSC... You have grounding wisdom.

For the ear trieth words, as the mouth tasteth meat. (Job)

It's vitally important to remain aware that not everyone has good intentions...

Some people can call you 'friend,' to manipulate and hook your trust... Can even be your fiancé and screwing with your best friend behind your back. Some can work secretly and very deeply in the base structures of your world to sabotage, and to intervene and ruin every good thing that could chance come your way... Dark jealousy.

I like these lines from this hymn...

"Riches I heed not,
nor man's empty praise,
Thou mine inheritance,
now and always"...

It is good to pray for discernment, for protection... to be surrounded by a few good and faithful friends you can TRUST, for friends who will be 'true' and watch your back... especially when you're in the most vulnerable of circumstances.

The wounds of a friend are faithful

(song) Be Thou My Vision [4:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vROU_N-FYdY

posted May 17, 2013 08:03 AM              

I think you got it.

taureau,

At the risk of repeating myself,
my response to you will be much as it was in the past.

posted May 23, 2013 04:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Heart--Shaped Cross:
mirage,

I think you got it.

taureau,

At the risk of repeating myself,
my response to you will be much as it was in the past.

While I essentially agree with all that you say, I do not entirely agree with the saying of all of it, and I take issue with what you do not say. In other words, I perceive the same flaws, -- they are, after all, fairly obvious ones, -- but I perceive other facets, as well, and I have to take a more generous view. I think the "strangeness" of the old forms, even when poorly executed, does carry with it a certain charm; a sense of -- how shall I put it? -- courtliness. While I've written numerous aphorisms and fragments which I believe may be worthy of posterity, verses are not my strong suit, and this is hardly something I would attempt to publish; I don't for a minute pretend to be composing fine literature here. I leave that to poets, like yourself, for whom this is more than the most casual of hobbies. Without troubling myself, I wrote this in the form in which it was "suggested" to me, and my sense is that the meaning, the gift itself, is infinitely more deserving of notice than the packaging (which is admittedly faded). While the wrapping may be in poor taste, I would suggest that it is in still poorer taste to focus one's attention solely on criticizing the wrapping, while missing the gift-horse within.

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{{{ }}} Your writings are like gifts! Full of passion and Truths... I 'hear' you, HSC. Thank you for sharing yourself with us/me.

Kindly & Gently, HSC... I don't "perceive" taureau20 as trying to attack your 'person', as much as he (in his own clumsy way-- which I do too--) is trying to 'make friends' with another male-artist? We are the Sultans of Words!

From other posts, I learned that taureau studies poetry as a student, and is very seriously talented...? He denies that he's as talented as I've perceive his work to be, but then I'm not The Poetry Scholar! But I can "appreciate" the craft... It takes talent! And many people with deep talent in the arts never "feel" like they've done it 'well' enough! When I used to write in my 20s, my friends used to tell me that I "pick scabs"--- I was CONSTANTLY revising and editing everything. Never satisfied. And with every new edit a 'new story' was told with the SAME words.

I studied Musical Composition in the 70s.... "Harmony Class" taught the 'rules' of writing/composing. They were foundational, and had very strict complex rules. As a beginner it was easy to violate one of the rules without realizing it. For me, I just wanted to 'most-excellently' convey a message THROUGH the textures and coded-meanings in my "sounds"... For my teacher, he merely wanted me to complete the assignment, and learn the traditional rules of chorale-writing.

I was enthralled writing and delivering my first real piece. He gave it back with grade of B-minus, and lots of notes about "strange chromaticisms".... yeah, Rudhyar, move over!! The "music of the spheres"....

Oh, It was the 'highest' grade he gave out to anyone on that assignment. He told me he didn't think ANYONE's "first" composition should be an "A"... He wanted to give the message that all can improve. (hrmmmph! *arms folded, face pouting*)

So bottom line is that I think taureau is trying to make conversation with someone who stirred him up inside and 'connected' from an energy & passion standpoint? You are both deeply analytical people... Iron sharpenETH iron.... (*winking*) AND Deep calleth unto deep. We meet some really UNIQUE people here at Lindaland.... Oh what beautiful-chance we have in the possibilities in our exchanges!

taureau and I have had some wonderful deep exchanges.... And HSC, I 'hear' your Voice. Man, I want to tell you how DEEPLY I feel the "frustrations" dealing with values and rules right now in our global atmosphere... If people could only stop the fighting and "Look Up" to a higher realms of Beauty, then we (as the World) could gain Rest for our weary troubled Souls... Will we have that in this Lifetime? I don't know. We can only keep Present, and abide in Hopefulness for our Times.

taureau I had read your url to the article of the discovery of another PRIME number... so effing incredible, isn't it? Math is INCREDIBLE wonder and beauty.... a beauty that can never be completed or contained. Math may look so absolute, but can drive to absolute madness the more intensely narrow you observe it. Wormhole. Approaching a Singularity... Never reaching the end. Heaven, for the Mathematicians. Eternity in a period's dot "." ----- And I noticed that the woman in India who was considered the "Human Computer" just recently died.

HSC, the Search for Truth is Wide as well as an eternally narrowing one. When you are able to 'nail' it down, it can only open itself, and show spaces and viscosities unimagined.... The Ecstasy---!! The Ether is alive, living, life-giving... without it the universe does not exist... and we by eyes in the invisible realms know that it's forever and ever. And think of it, we Belong....

posted May 23, 2013 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by taureau20:
I don't entirely agree with myself too or even if I do, I don't see why you must necessarily agree with it. In any case, I think you write well.

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