posted January 04, 2008 07:43 AM         

I have always believed that Numerology has made a profound change in my life when I "discovered" it in Star Signs. I can't say though that it sparked a passion to learn more about "mysticism" as usually, I don't see the same blatant truths as I found in this book. I did discover an excitement to read all of Linda's words however (but I'm still stuck half way through Love Signs). Anyhow, personally, I've always believed that Numerology is the single largest piece of evidence of God's existance. It doesn't prove God's Plan - only that She exists. Now, when I've tried to show other people, I get mixed reactions. To me, I've never found errors in the data (except when I made mistakes before creating the program) but when trying to get agreement from people, they usually seem vague - like they either don't believe the system could work, it doesn't adequately explain them, they haven't taken heed of the initial advice (that astrology is considered 0 and it could oppose, etc), or that it's like any other system where it explains vaguely 50 percent of them, and 25 is totally incorrect, and the rest totally correct. I am biased though, for I feel these people aren't seeing the words - I point them to the program and say "that's you, what do you think" and they turn around and ask for interpretation, but I'm like "I wrote the program because there is no further interpretation - I dislike the middle person feeding off your feelings and past, and giving you more data that wasn't in the name or date - and just the fact that the name and date mean anything is so amazing, don't you think" and usually, they don't. I don't mind or matter this, but I just wish they could understand that this system could help in a myriad of ways, but as a "messenger" I can not make the message be absorbed. However, in my kids and any other way I can find where this may be used, I use it, but no one seems to want to use it for their kids, etc. I guess they think its esoteric mumbo jumbo, etc, maybe there's an ingrained religiousness that people have telling them not to trust "false idols" etc.

Well, let me know what experiences you've had.

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79

posted January 05, 2008 12:53 PM         

Numerology has changed my life, but it is coupled with lexigrams and astrology... for me, these things are like a team...

But speaking of numerology... It made me see a new perspective on why certain things occurred to me, and basically made me less judgmental of myself, and to almost feel that things happen for a reason and that i was incarnated on a certain day, so that i can attract certain things, in order to have the experience I desired to have experientially in this stint of my life.

Sometimes knowing does not change much in ones life. Sometimes the dynamics are not altered but... once you have a glimpse of something that caused confusion, and are now able to face it, life becomes bearable and easier to control.

It is not even about the numbers etc... it is about what each number represents and the lessons they give. Most numbers have pros and cons, and these things apply to everyone.

I can read a number that is unrelated to me, but the advice given is good enough for me to use in my life too. There are many lessons of discipline and spiritual vigilance and each number has that advice, even the so-called "good numbers"...

Therefore numerology has changed my life by making me more tolerant because where in the past I scorned at fithy rich people, now I know that they also have their challenges of possibly being complacent or indulgent etc, and where I was glad not to be inflicted with certain horrors, I now know that the difficulties usually spawn excellent wisdom and appreciation for life. Etc...

So, numerology has taught me that life is cycle (I knew that before numerology but it also cemented that belief) and that being at the top merely depends on where your standing. It is all perspective driven.

posted January 05, 2008 06:46 PM         

When I first learned about numerology in Star Signs it really spooked me out, as I have one of the "8" birthdays and find myself surrounded by other "8"s and "4"s. The descriptions were accurate for me and most people I knew. This threw me completely off balance because prior to this discovery I had done quite a bit of energy work to release negativity and keep a positive mental attitude. I was into the Abraham-Hicks processes to raise my vibration. I felt great and was seeing steady progress on my goals. When I learned about the meaning of the number "8", I got completly off track in my thinking and felt like the rug had been pulled out from under me.

I spent quite a bit of time researching Chaldean and Vedic numerology to find out how it could possibly be that one birthday number can dictate your whole life. How absurd! I could not, however, ignore the resonance of truth that I felt when I read this information. Or did I feel that way because there were still self-limiting beliefs deep in my subconscience mind. Maybe all that it told me was that I still had lots more work to do. In my research I tried to find things that would make me disregard numerology as rubbish but instead I was lead deeper into the esoteric arts which can always be traced back to the mysterious ancient Chaldeans and possibly Atlantis and Lemuria. (Even a lexigram of "numerology" brings up: Lemur ology; Mu no more; long gone Mu; Mu lore; Mu glory amoung others.) My astrology chart and some other forms of divination did not make me feel any better either.

I tried to find ways of changing the spelling of my name or adding a name so I could put more emphasis on the more positive number, 6, as Linda suggests in her book. I couldn't come up with anything unless I changed my first name entirely. I am reluctant to do so as my family/ friends would think I was very peculiar to change my name at this age and certifiable if I told them why. I am still considering changing my name but want to research this more thoroughly. I am trying to change my phone numbers but this is not easy to do and impossible to select the number. In the mean time, I am stregnthening my current name number by making adjustments where possible and try to think of myself as that number. I am also using some of the suggestions about color and gemstones per Cheiro's Book of Numbers. I never would have imagined that at this age I would suddenly become this superstitious.

It has been very difficult to have all this on my mind and not be able to talk to anyone about it. If I told even my husband, he would think I was insane. I have tested the waters in telling him and my family a little about numerology but was met with blank stares. I have a strategy to gradually convince him of the merits of the esoteric teachings but that will take time. I would really like to help him as he is a 4/8 combination and lots of 8s in his business. Some of my family members are also 8s and struggling but I fear this knowledge would do them more harm than good. So far, knowing about Chaldean numerology has been quite the burden. I'm glad to have you folks to confide in.

Trying to sort out my feelings, I gleaned alot of insight from reading a number of essays on karma, some excellent ones on this site. I now believe that Karma is a vibration. Even through we have agreed to have certain types of experiences in this lifetime based on our soul's vibrational level (i.e. closeness to Source Energy) we have the ability/power raise that level through choices we make and practices that will bring us closer to that Source thus attracting other experiences more atune to the higher vibration. I don't believe we are here to be punished. We are here to LEARN how to love, forgive and be forgiven. I now beleive that the numbers have a vibration with both positive and negative manifestation. So I am once again and more than ever working to raise my vibrational level. So I am back full circle but a changed person.

posted January 06, 2008 05:44 AM         

Jai, Welcome! I don't recall having the pleasure of conversing with you. Have you considered adding a name? I believe (as a "puritan") that numerology is your whole name first and foremost, and as such, you could add a name that no one else is aware of, but you could say is for "remembrance" of someone that was close to you if someone asked. All I'm saying is that there are other options. My son has four first names in order to get a cool vibration - Thomas (his second name) is from his Granddads middle name, and Dean (his third) is my name, so we covered both families, but only really to get a 27. As Unmoved said, some people have a successful life, but have to realize how to succeed spiritually (to paraphrase) and my son has an 18 (as birth) which was said to be the result of not heeding karma, etc. but my job as a dad and learner of numerology, is to teach him the difference of spiritual and material in order to succeed in both. So in this sense, *hopefully* he will turn out just fine But yeah, check out added names as an option. Relate any more if you want to - like is there anything in your numbers that doesn't ring true, and are there other factors to explain this, or your own theories, etc?

AG, I have heard people (like 26t) that seem to love there 4's and 8's. They definitely are powerful, and 8 is a Chinese lucky number. The start of the Chinese Olympics is 8/8/2008 (08).

posted January 06, 2008 04:51 PM         

Personally, I think a "cursed" number is a bit fanatical. A number is a number. 8 might be a nightmare for those who can not handle its vibrations, but I doubt that "life" would give you an 8 if you didn't know how to tame it and make it yours, and not let it own you.

If what they say about 8 is true... I like 8 then. Period.

4, the number of upheaval. Love it too. It's really how you look at things. In Star Signs, Linda forgets to emphasize the wisdom of 8, the quiet power of 8, the luck of 8, the patience of 8, the work ethic of 8, the resilience of 8. Instead concentrates on the horrible bits like being fated.

I think the numbers of fate are for tough cookies.

posted January 06, 2008 11:14 PM         

Sesame - Thank you for your warm welcome. You seem to be well versed in numerology and if you don't mind I'd like to ask your opinion on my name number dilemma.

As you know, the day of my birthday adds down to eight. My first name is a 16/7 + last name 23/5 = 12/3. Linda advises 8s to change their name number to a 6, but not a 15/6. I like my first name so I tried many ways of changing the spelling but it always comes out so that the first name breaks down to a 4, 8 or a 3 (not good as 3+ 5=8). I was trying for a spelling that would add down to a one, but it would be ridiculously convoluted.

The next strategy would be to add a middle name since I don't presently have one. It would have to break down to a 3 in order to ultimately give me the 6. The problem here is that since it would be three names, it would come out to 7+3+5=15. Linda really stressed staying away from the 15/6 for 8 birthdays. In Cheiro's book he says to change the name to another powerful number such as a 1,3,or 6. I already have the 12/3. Twelve is "the sacrifice" or "the victim" so I am not alltogether comfortable with that. Which one do you think would be better - my current 12/3 or the 15/6? I'd really appreciate your opinion.

Kind regards

posted January 07, 2008 07:42 PM         

The Crown of the Magi

21 is pictured as "The Universe," and is also called "The Crown of the
Magi." It promises general success, and guarantees advancement, honours,
awards, and general elevation in the life and career. It indicates
victory after a long struggle, for the "Crown of the Magi" is gained
only after long initiation, much soul testing and various other tests of
determination. However, the person or entity blessed with the number 21
may be certain of final victory over all odds and all opposition. It's a
most fortunate vibration - a number of karmic reward.

Now the problem is finding a name that equals 9 I'm thinking trial and error would be the way to go, but start with any names you already like. Let me know how you go.

posted January 07, 2008 07:51 PM         

Best of Luck,
Dean.

------------------
I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79

posted January 10, 2008 12:42 AM         

You're right about the 12/3 energy. I'm not crazy about it either, at least with the 8. The 21 would be better, but it means more struggle before before the reward. I've been struggling for too long and I don't want to start over. I'm ready for the pay-off now.

I had not thought of adding two names to get the 24. I like the 24 except it would be a long name and difficult to use in every day life. Even if the names were short, people would still refer to me by my present first and last names. Do you think that this would cancel out a name change?

What do you think of a "1" name number? I know Linda only suggersts the 6 with the 8, but it sounds like the 19/1 could be awesome. Chiero says that another strong energy such as 1,3,or 6 could would counter-act the 8, to maybe it would be OK. I could add one middle name that would be a 7 (7+7+5=19). Or two names that would be a 6 and a 1. Here again, I'm wondering if people would have to refer to me as all the names together in order for it to have its effect.

posted January 11, 2008 01:15 PM         

I know that learning about Chaldean numerology can bring out alot of worry in some cases. To temper that, keep in mind that there are other forms of numerology that are much more positively focused. This is not an exact science and most people would say that any kind of numerology is complete rubbish.

If you are interested in learning more about it, pick up a copy of Star Signs and read the chapters on numerology. There are some specific suggestions for people born on days that add down to 4s or 8s.

Even if you choose not to follow the suggestions, you will be totally fine with the right attitude as shown by some posters on this thread.