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Topic: Draconic ascendant.
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FistOfLegend unregistered
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posted January 02, 2009 02:54 PM
Does this pertain to me more than my natal rising? Is this how people really view me? I feel a lot more attached to my draconic than my natal. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 02, 2009 03:08 PM
As the Draconic chart relates to the nodal axis, it has a very spiritual connotation. I`m not sure it is how other people REALLY see you, but it`s probably something that is embedded deeply into your psyche.In my case I definitely identify with my DRaconic ASC, too. IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1772 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 03:10 PM
what is your natal and draconic asc, FOL?IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4868 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 03:13 PM
Is it not the same as your natal AC? Mine is lolIP: Logged |
FistOfLegend unregistered
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posted January 02, 2009 03:16 PM
Would that mean you carry along the physical characteristics of your draconic ascendant as well?IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 02, 2009 03:21 PM
Fist of Legend,I don`t know. I`d say, since the Draco relate to the spiritual side, probably not. But then again, who knows? Maybe. Lara,
is your NN close to 00° Aries? Those people will have identical Draconic and Tropical charts. IP: Logged |
FistOfLegend unregistered
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posted January 02, 2009 03:24 PM
What if my natal Mars conjuncts someone's draconic Pluto? Would that still quell up the incredible passion found in regular synastry?IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 02, 2009 03:28 PM
I think there would be passion involved, but it probably is not the same as in tropical. Maybe something will stir from underneath. Your Mars, your energy, would trigger deeply seated feelings of intensity,w hich might actually confuse the other person a bit. Maybe they would wonder: Why do I feel the way I feel? There`s something about that Mars-person, but I just don`t understand why he has such effect on me.For past life believers, it could be triggering a faint feeling or memory in the Draco person. IP: Logged |
FistOfLegend unregistered
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posted January 02, 2009 03:32 PM
I've found this in many of my competitive rivals. Jealous boogers. Anyway, thanks for the info. Draconic astrology seems real. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4868 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 03:34 PM
Hi DDNope. It's at 18' Aries my natal AC is 21' Aries and my Draco AC is 2' Aries. I guess l am a similar person to what l was in the last life although it's weird because l have SO many harsh lessons in this life that would have killed off lesser souls, you know what l mean? IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 02, 2009 04:58 PM
Lara,"lesser souls" What are lesser souls? As I have always thought, every soul has the same value. There are just souls on different parts of their paths. To me there are no lesser souls or superior souls. But maybe you didn`t mean it that way? I also believe that every soul only gets the cards dealt, they can handle. If you get a harsh deck of cards dealt, it must mean that you`re pretty able to handle it. And probably you chose that path before your birth, because you knew that you can`t only handle that experience, but NEED to experience it for your own spiritual development. Does that make any sense to you? IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3035 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 05:02 PM
My Draconic rising is Leo, which is interesting because I do somewhat relate to it (and explains my odd connection to Leos). Man, the whole chart is changed. I don't really know what to think.I don't really get how your Draconic is considered more spiritual than the regular natal chart though...I mean, I feel I can glean a lot from my chart in the spiritual sense to begin with. Is draconic more about past lives or something like that?
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4868 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 05:12 PM
sorry DD, l meant lesser as in younger. As the soul becomes older and has lived thousands of lives, the lessons get more profound and it is my belief (only personal belief) that the more intense and soul-challenging the lessons/karma in this life brought forth from past lives, the more you learn in "fast forward" in this life. In personal terms l simply meant that not many people have endured a highly abusive/addictive parent, a multiple-married parent, a violent marriage themselves, near-death, ego-death, having to bring themselves up, having no one to support them, dumped with 3 kids with zero family/in laws help, abandoned by a parent before birth, severely traumatic spiritual/psychic experiences, by the time they hit 35 years of age. Most people l think experience a few of these but not all of them in such an intense plutonian fashion... without it having some sort of psychological or emotional consequence. The other side of it all is that, the Universe only gives you what you can handle and i think the strength of my genetic code has definitely helped me to stay balanced and walk out of every tunnel. The older the soul the more lonely the journey l think. Would you agree? IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1772 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 05:26 PM
Keeping in mind that draconic planets and points tend to feel intrinsic or natural, we can blend the energies of the natal Sun with the draconic Sun, the reigning need of the natal Moon with the draconic Moon, and the identity projection of the natal Ascendant with the draconic Ascendant. The natal and draconic work together.For example, our client has draconic Sun in Virgo with natal Sun in Aquarius. We can say to our client, “The horoscope suggests that energies are working intrinsically to refine and discriminate, and intellectualizing with others in an insightful way that probably feels quite natural to you.” Draconic Moon in Capricorn with natal Moon in Gemini: “There is a major need to be bright, clever and witty, and at the same time, getting things done probably feels second nature to you.” Draconic Sagittarius Ascendant with natal Taurus Ascendant: “The horoscope suggests that your identity feels comfortable approaching the world in a self-assertive way and simultaneously seeking to build something of value. http://www.noeltyl.com/insights/081031.html IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 02, 2009 05:28 PM
"The older the soul the more lonely the journey l think. Would you agree?"No, I don`t. I actually think the more experiences you make, the more you understand that you`re never alone, but that you are connected to everything. But maybe that is just my personal perception. Others might feel it is a lonely journey. I also think that loneliness might be something the soul has to experience just as togetherness. But I agree, if you mean, that not many people will understand. Especially in a very materialistic civilization. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3035 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 05:30 PM
Thanks, Peri That makes more sense. I always wondered how to integrate the Draconic stuff. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4868 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 05:33 PM
quote: "The older the soul the more lonely the journey l think. Would you agree?"
By lonely, Peri l don't mean literally lonely, l meant that the summit of the mountain is lonelier than the bottom yet the view is way better! you dig? IP: Logged |
amowls Knowflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 05:36 PM
My NN is close to 0 Aries natally (23 Pisces), so my ASC only moves 7 degrees, but it changes to Cancer from Gemini. I can relate to my Cancer ASC but I'm not sure if it's because I "remember" my past life or if it's because my Progressed ASC is in Cancer.IP: Logged |
Happy Dragon Knowflake Posts: 957 From: u.k. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 06:25 PM
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leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2009 09:34 PM
how do i find out my Draconic horoscope?IP: Logged |
FistOfLegend unregistered
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posted January 02, 2009 09:39 PM
If you have an astro.com account, click on chart selections and scroll all the way to the bottom. It should be there.IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2009 10:10 PM
whats the difference b/w the draconic and "regular" chart? and why would we use the draconic?from the changes that i see, i can only relate to the aries asc versus my pisces. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 4147 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 04, 2009 12:00 AM
Lara quote: The older the soul the more lonely the journey l think. Would you agree?
The older the soul the more it understands that it is part of a larger whole. The more a part of the Universe it recognises it is, it feels less lonely because it understands that it is never truly alone. There are always like-minded people around. Sometimes you have to seek them. Other times, and if you ask, the Universe takes you to them. The only time someone feels isolated is when in their ego they are sepearated by mentality of being more or less than others. Once that person can accept that we are all equal, they can overcome that restriction. IP: Logged |