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good girl
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posted January 05, 2009 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
Pisces is on my 8th and yes, yes, yes I will avoid any crisis that I can!!
Just point me to the sand so I can bury my head in it.....

What is your response/sign?

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posted January 05, 2009 08:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Why would the 8th house show that?

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posted January 05, 2009 08:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message
i think it does. liz green said 8th house saturn performs best (and learns from) crisis. i will grant i've had more than my fair share of crises in my life. and i'm dang cool in them. levelheaded beyond belief. dunno if that's a good thing or not!

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posted January 05, 2009 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
26taurus:

It has to do with its natural rulers pluto/scorpio.

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posted January 05, 2009 09:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Interesting. I deal extremely well with crisis. Maybe because I am used to them. Virgo 8th house. Pluto, Moon and NN contained in it.

What would make ones life full of crisis? Strong Uranus aspects I'm guessing. Mine sits right atop my chart on the MC.

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posted January 05, 2009 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruce     Edit/Delete Message
I always stay very calm,I just can. Pluto, merc, and sun on cusp of eighth, all conjunct.

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posted January 05, 2009 09:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message
well liz green said it's just the way us saturn 8th housers learn, un/fortunately. it seems to just happen to us!

i do have a strong uranus opposition though. it's in scorpio exactly opposed my moon. definitely that's at play as well! (my mom's psycho and used to kick me out of the house all of the time. and it kind of became a habit that i could not stay in one place very long. also had a bad habit of getting into relationships with abusive men. oh well, live and learn!)

hey my 8th house is virgo as well, and my NN is there too. i think virgo lends a certain strength to that house, being so rational and organized. definitely good for crisis as it wouldn't get sucked in emotionally like pisces.

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posted January 05, 2009 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruce     Edit/Delete Message
I think a strong saturn can indicate that aswell

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posted January 05, 2009 09:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Interesting info heartcakes. In Koch house system, my Saturn is in the 8th. I dont use that system, but still it is close to my 8th cusp.

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posted January 05, 2009 09:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message
oh and I had the same mother as you!!!

sucked.

but I bet it made you stronger too.

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posted January 05, 2009 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
I would think an afflicted pluto could indicate crisis.

I would think uranus is more upsets, sudden changes. But that true crisis, where there is danger and life and death issues, I think that would be pluto.

Pluto itself, rules depth of emotions and fear, etc. Where as uranus is more 'cool' emotionally

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posted January 05, 2009 09:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Trust me, sh*t'll hit the fan when Uranus is involved. I think Pluto is more destructive on inner psychological levels, whereas Uranus brings chaos and destruction, crisis to outer events. Especially when it's positioned on an angle.

Pluto is more subtle and transformative.

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posted January 05, 2009 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I can't tell from personal experience, since uranus and pluto are joined at the hip in my chart... in the 1st.

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posted January 05, 2009 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I have no idea. I have Sagittarius in the 8th and guys with accents turn me on, and they seem to lead me to a crisis point

Actually, I think crisis really doesn't faze me really, maybe it's the Jupiter there in the 8th? I've got Neptune conjunct my 8th also.
I don't really run from crisis, kinda face it head-on. Clumsily. And then just go from my gut.


EDIT...you know, come to think of it, I think this makes a lot of sense. I do tend to try and philosophize whenever crises comes up, and talk myself into this oddly optimistic state of mind that it's all part of a 'greater' plan. Maybe that's Jupiter. It feels Jupiterian. And, I dareay, a bit Neptunian too.

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posted January 06, 2009 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowmoon     Edit/Delete Message
8th house in Gemini with Mars -Jupiter conjunction in it ( Lilith and Vertex also ). I handle crisis very well- I stay calm and focused and get so many useful, constructive ideas ( like brain storming lol ) that I'm able to find a solution or a way out in a very short time.I also feel energized in some way. One could say that i feel even better in times like that :-D But the thing is that I lack persistance

My natal chart is very Uranus influenced, chart ruler is Pluto / Mars ( Scorpio ASC ).

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posted January 06, 2009 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Ceres and the Sun straddle the cusp of my 8th in Gemini. Ruler Mercury is in Taurus, in the 7th.

I like to think I am quick-thinking in an emergency, but like everyone I have my dopey moments when I stand around in shock before action kicks in.

Mercury in Taurus fits me right, I like a practical solution to a crisis. What can we do about it? Let's be sensible, let's do some damage control, etc, etc.

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posted January 06, 2009 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
yellowmoon:

So I'm wondering if mars in 8th starts the crisis???

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posted January 06, 2009 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
I have my moon and neptune in the 8th, sag ruling the cusp and I tend to go into emotional overload and fall apart in a crises. I've had an extremly crisis ridden, tumultuous life and I too have a prominent uranus in scorpio in the 7th(my crises almost always center around relationships).

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posted January 07, 2009 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
My Sun and Jupiter are in Capricorn in the 8th. Ruler of the 8th, Jupiter (Sag is on the cusp), in the 8th.

I think about all the possible crises that are possible, and I haven't experienced most of them by a long shot. There's a serious lack of need-to-act-quick, immediate crises in my life...at least as far as I remember. I can't think of any serious injury or medical moment in my surroundings.

In personal crises, I just get annoyingly nervous, which is easy being a Gemini Rising with a Virgo Moon.

I'm trying to envision myself in an emergency crisis, and what I'd do:

If I was part of a team, like in the military, I'd probably stick to my job, and join the others in attacking the issue.

If I was the only person dealing with a medical emergency, I'd probably ensure that I was the only one around capable of dealing with the issue, and then I'd probably be fairly logical about it. I'd think about what resources were available for me to use, and call them. I'm very certain I'd present a calm persona to the person I was helping, and they would know every step I was taking. I'd listen to them regarding anything they were thinking or needing.

Natural disaster: Once again I'd assess my role to start. If there were people taking charge, I probably wouldn't. I'd let the high strung people do their thing (lead), and I'd decide the best course of action for myself whether it be following someone's lead, or initiating some other plan.

So...who knows? I guess I avoid crises. Part of me thinks that that leaves me unprepared, another part of me thinks that I'm not meant to deal with those kinds of issues in this life, and another part of me thinks I'd be ok in those situations.

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posted January 07, 2009 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowmoon     Edit/Delete Message
@ good girl

Could be! :-D Sometimes I think I'm looking for some crticial moments or causing them -otherwise I'd feel bored! lol I'm a master in complicating things :-))) I have a degree in it .

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posted January 08, 2009 02:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message
26 taurus, i always wanted a sister!!! yes it sucked! but it did make me incredibly strong. took a while though! how does your psycho mom show up in your chart, if you don't mind sharing? i also have a badly afflicted taurus moon in the fourth; hooray! she was like the exact opposite of taurus and cancer, hahaha. has a capricorn moon and is like all the very worst descriptions of it! but overall, i really AM glad for it because i learned so very much. and i have fantasy moms, which isn't so bad! my dad is also a psycho, but pretty much the opposite of her. she was ruthless, spiteful, hateful, cunning, and showed no emotion other than disdain and rage, and him, well he was EXTREMELY emotional, guilty feeling all the time, and would only be (just as) mean when drunk.. he's a cancer moon! so maybe that is where my 4th house comes in.

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posted June 13, 2009 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message
That is scary to consider because I have Jupiter there and I do respond well to crisis in a way... I fear I actually enjoy it on some level, but that's mostly because I'm very Plutonian.

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posted June 13, 2009 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message
My 8th house is ruled by saturn and contains my moon and jupiter. I can definitely keep my cool in a crisis. This was confirmed to me when I was held up at gunpoint in an attempted rape 8 years ago. After the initial shock of "wow is this really happening" I was able to think clearly and manage to escape the situation with only bruises.

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posted June 13, 2009 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I think your rising sign and Mars sign show how you respond to a crisis.

The ascendent shows our public face before people really get to know us, but also how we deal with beginnings--for example, how we might handle a strange situation like starting a new school or meeting new people. A crisis is ALWAYS a new situation--that's why it's so shocking--it's an intense example of something that has changed suddenly. Dealing with a crisis means dealing with something new, very suddenly.

The Mars sign, because that's how we handle anger/tension and how we take action.

And of course, the Sun sign should never be underestimated as showing how we deal with EVERYTHING and just generally are...the Moon how we handle emotions.

But house-wise, I think it makes the most sense to look at the rising sign.

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