posted January 06, 2009 10:23 PM         

Everything is on the bottom! Even the Vertex, Ceres, Pallas, Juno and Vesta.

This person has delayed speech and can be considered a rather quirky character. If Glaucus was here he might even classify him as a neuro-divergent character.

Actually when I added in some asteroids such as Atlantis, Talent, Discovery, Reiki, Siva, Kaali, everything is at the bottom too. Even at the bottom, I notice one consistency, it is that the 3rd house has NOTHING inside.

I would like to create this topic for charts that also have similar extreme concentrations.
I feel that for a person to be born with such charts, s/he has a very specific purpose in this life.

So for this example I live, the Home seems to be very significant and it shows a highly creative individual. With Sun in his 5th house perhaps his creations will to do with the Aquaurian endeavours and Home life will influence him greatly. Yet it also seems to be the place where he experience restrictions.

Actually, from what I can deduce of his chart and what I know of this person, they coincide.

posted January 06, 2009 10:36 PM         

5-6 deg Libra

A Man Watches His Ideals Taking A Concrete Form Before His Inner Vision

Extremely uncanny.

This is his Sun

3-4 deg Aquarius

A Hindu Yogi Demonstrates His Healing Powers

and this is his Moon

29-30 deg Pisces

A Majestic Rock Formation Resembling A Face Is Idealized By A Boy Who Takes It As His Ideal Of Greatness, And As He Grows Up, Begins To Look Like It.

His Venus

11-12 deg Pisces

In The Sanctuary Of An Occult Brotherhood, Newly Initiated Members Are Being Examined And Their Character Tested

This is his Saturn

21-22 deg Pisces

A Prophet Carrying Tablets Of The New Law Is Walking Down The Slopes Of Mount Sinai

His Uranus is in Aquarius and furthermore it is in 0 Degrees. What I found out that two of his planet's sabian symbols have to do with Indians. I'm thinking he might be a very spiritual soul with an Indian Shamanic background.

Even more 'fatedness' his Vertex conjuncts his Moon exactly at 29 deg Pisces.

The 'Talent' asteroid is at 29 deg Aquarius and here is the Sabian

29-30 deg Aquarius

Deeply Rooted In The Past Of A Very Ancient Culture, A Spiritual Brotherhood In Which Many Individual Minds Are Merged Into The Glowing Light Of A Unanimous Consciousness Is Revealed To One Who Has Emerged Successfully From His Metamorphosis

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posted January 06, 2009 11:51 PM         

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I would like to create this topic for charts that also have similar extreme concentrations.

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Here's my chart:

-Sun, Moon, and all planets within 78 degrees

posted January 07, 2009 02:32 AM         

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When the planets are crammed into one third of the wheel, or less, we have a bundle horoscope. By way of contrast, a splash chart scatters a person’s energies. A bundle concentrates them. This chart shape makes it easier to focus on one thing over a long range of time. It’s not that bundle people can’t have a wide range of interests. They are simply less influenced by what goes on outside of themselves. They are more likely to create and live in their own little world.

In some cases, this can manifest as self-centered insensitivity. In others, they can make a big impact on the world because they tend to be immune to outside criticism and can’t be easily dissuaded. There is also, according to Marc Edmund Jones, a self-obsessed quality bundle people. The effect can work even when the planets cover a little more than 120 degrees as long as the signs at each end are trine.

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posted January 07, 2009 02:34 AM         

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The Bowl chart occurs when the planets occupy half of the horoscope wheel. People with a Bowl shaped chart can be just as stubborn as those with a Bundle. The difference is that while Bundle people seem self-contained in their own little world, Bowl folks are very aware of others and frequently try to compel recognition. In other words, when two thirds of the wheel is empty, you don’t care. When one half is empty, it seems to give painful recognition that something is missing, that there is an area of existence from which they are excluded, and the entire life may be spent trying to fill that void. This is why those with Bowl horoscopes frequently seem to be on a mission. And they do have a tendency to get involved in causes.

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http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Bowl.htm

posted January 07, 2009 03:59 AM           

Heres a link which describes the affects of having planets grouped in a certain area of a chart.
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-planetsinhemispheres.htm

..and my Natal.. i have always noticed that anything i check out is always at the top of my chart.

posted January 07, 2009 04:07 AM           

1st Self-absorbed
7th Group-oriented
10th Independent
4th Dependent

posted January 07, 2009 08:59 AM         

Even if he didn't have any of one element present I wouldn't rush to say he lacked major parts of the human personality.

Check out the aspects ~ he has Moon Trine Pluto and Moon Sextile Neptune.

Probably his feelings are contained and controlled. It doesn't mean he doesn't have any at all, you just have to look beneath the surface. I'd say he is highly intuitive and understands other people easily. It just might not be obvious.

The high level of planets in two elements adds to the impression of the chart shape in suggesting a person who is probably very focused (on the areas of life he is interested in).

Bob Marks is good on the topic of voids:

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm

Janis Huntley in "Astrological Voids" talks of element voids as indicators of karmic lessons learnt in past lives. There's more to the book than that though, I recommend it. Very good.

posted January 07, 2009 11:05 AM         

Guess the element void for the Tinman and the Cowardly Lion.

According to Janis Huntley Air Void people have fulfilled the Karmic obligations of the mind.

Of her Air void subjects she says it is far from the case that they are people unable to communicate or express ideas. Some are the opposite, able to do this with great ease.

posted January 07, 2009 11:25 AM         

I am way too good at expressing myself
I should be a writer because my imagination coupled with my ability to write from both the perspective of the man and women in a objective or subjective way is quite a talent, so i'm told. I'm too lazy to sit and write though.
No idea where this ability to communicate comes from though now, nor where my IQ and intellect is based. hmmm now you've got me thinking!

No wonder my bf is triple Aqua lol

I love air signs too... when i'm around them i'm at my funniest and l just get into this verbal zone where i'm totally in synch with myself.

posted January 07, 2009 11:39 AM         

Just my view but I think Voids can be areas that we glide through in life because we don't really need to work hard on using them, it's not that we lack that part of a normal personality (though it might be the case in extreme examples). Or, it could be we don't take place much importance on them because we want to focus on something else.

posted January 07, 2009 06:42 PM         

You mention his 3rd house being empty, but that doesn't matter.

Take a look at Jupiter, the ruler of his 3rd House of Communication, correspondance and frame of mind.

1. Jupiter is exactly conjunct his MC/IC Axis - his mother and early home life are always on his mind.

2. Jupiter squares his Moon - the Moon rules his MC (the father or one of the parents, his mother again). The Moon adds more tension, focus and light on the 3rd House issues.

3. Jupiter squares his Ascendant/DSC Axis directly affecting his identity development. High developmental stress.

So, his 3rd house is of great importance in all the most important areas of his life. What role does religion, spirituality, philosophy, opinions and idealism play in his communication? How does he work with the intangible? Has anyone noticed that he is a workaholic?

Don't forget, Pluto has been transiting his 3rd house for his entire life so far. It will only leave for the first time within the next few months. I urge you to watch what happens when Pluto transits his 4th House cusp and when it touches Jupiter for the first time, his communication style will change dramatically and in some kind of rewarding way.

There is so much more here, I may come back with more.

Geocosmic Valentine
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posted January 07, 2009 10:35 PM         

There are quite a few charts to pick apart here. Which is fun.

IWD, I read that if most planets are concentrated in the Left half, the person is more of a leader type? Is that true? You don't necessarily have to be a leader in everything, just that the phrase 'living according to your own rules' applies to you more than most people.

Scorpionic Web's one is like woah. Would all that Scorpio make you extremely intense/passionate? Furthermore a lot of it is also in the 4th house. And with the planets in the bottom-half I would take it that you are mostly introverted.

Yet with Moon, Pluto and Saturn in the 3rd House of Communications, I would think you are rather chatty too. Just that your 'chattiness' might not even be seen that way due to the influences of Saturn and Pluto. So it's like a purposeful chattiness lol.
Could you tell me more about the way you interact with people? Or your general make-up?

aqua/scorp, your chart is almost like the first chart I posted, only flipped over.
I noticed that the voids you all have are specifically from Taurus to Libra. Yet your ages are more than ten years apart actually.
I think it'll be hard not to notice someone like you. You seem very...outstanding. That's the impression I get from your chart. Hehe.

Lara, your 12th house! Yet there are 4 planets in the 1st house, so many influences on the 1st house of appearance, how do you even separate the different influences? People would at once see you as charming, outgoing, aggressive and chatty.

blue moon, your view is interesting. I never thought that voids can be seen as areas we glide through easily. But it makes sense, seeing as these areas are not the areas we focus in probably because they are not very troublesome, or we can handle them well.

I wish I had more in-depth astrology experience to really pick apart all the charts. =\

Geocosmic Valentine,
wow! 1, 2 and 3 are accurate. His mother is a driving influence in his life, and even his way of thinking. Also many people would think he is 'slow' in that academic/developmental sense. Probably most of his entire life people are always harping on his 3rd house issues.

I'm not sure exactly what he thinks of spiritual issues, but he is optimistic and an idealist. He is very creative in building structures. I'm not sure what you mean by the intangibles, but he builds stuff without guides, almost as if he builds them out of his mind. (Lego pieces, robotics)

posted January 08, 2009 03:27 AM         

However she has sun in the 12th, which I believe is the same placement as yours. And Mercury there too.
Just by planetary aspects she has 10 squares in her chart. If her Asc and MC are added in, she has 15 squares.
17 squares if you count Chiron.

She has had a pretty hard life. But with Pluto conjunct the MC by 1 deg, there's almost an amazingly strong will-power to rise through life's difficulties.